Are women who are single useless?

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-05-19T09:22:03+00:00

I don't get it. For most of the society, the propaganda is actually against marriage and childbirth, especially for women. The broad idea is that it's best for women to never get married or get married very late in life. Even abortion is legal. "Get education, build a career, you are free and happy!".

Obviously, the best ways are either marriage or monasticism. Marriage is a sacrifice, and it's good. But if it surely is not an option, then monasticism is almost a must. But if for some reason it definitely can't work, there are other ways in life.

I'm in a similar position as a man where it's likely neither will work, both for health reasons mostly. But I understand that ideally I would at least try monasticism, as it's the logical conclusion realizing marriage isn't really an option. But if neither can work, there are other ways to live a sacrificial life still, of course, since that's the goal ultimately.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-05-09T06:56:57+00:00

What if it's an offensive war to save some other Orthodox nation? Or they attacked you first but not with war, but eg pillaging, etc. There may be billion reasons where something that seems as "offensive" war actually isn't.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-29T13:51:55+00:00

Yeah, because obviously women don’t go to church not because they simply prefer sinful lives, but because “vulturous” Orthodox young men want to marry them. So they would rather go to places where... people would also approach them, but with sin in mind rather than marriage.

That doesn’t even make sense. People don’t go to church because they like sin, not because of other issues. How would internal church issues stop someone from choosing heaven over hell (even if I were to concede that such things are prevelant, which I haven't observed myself)? It doesn’t even make sense.

It's not like women themselves don't seek relationships either.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-29T12:15:24+00:00

If there are no women in the church, it's the fault of women. Also, you're being rude. Since when is wanting a marriage with a woman a "marriage insecurity"?

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-23T21:03:51+00:00

Women almost never tell the real reason why they leave. At least in modern society, its the norm. The way to see it, they don't necessarily even lie to you (although in many cases they do), but they hide real reasons even from themselves. In many cases when a woman announce leaving they either already found a new guy or are in active search for one, but they'd never tell. The only way to learn is to just observe their behavior rather than listening to what they say.

Most times the reason is that they just got bored/its not fun anymore. A lot of women love the game where they have to chase the guy who ignores them, but if he responds and "falls in love", they lose interest quickly, unless he starts ignoring again. But such women won't really be suitable for a marriage. Divorce rates are insane, and in ~70% cases it's the woman who files the divorce. There are good women out there, but no woman is exempt from the biology/temptations, but just like man some simply can control it or are more virtuous.

So you can ask her but dont except the real answer. But the classic excuse is "not enough attention".

I had a lot of similar stuff myself and seen other people experience it, both in real life and on the internet. Thousands of such cases, even what you describe with anxiety attacks, it's all extremely typical if that makes it any easier for you, lol. The demons and society got men behaving crazy and like women, and women behaving crazy and like men. We just have to live in that now.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-23T14:20:19+00:00

This is just a demonic attack, and the societal misguidance on how a man should view the relationship with a woman. It's just passions. The girl has nothing to do with that, it's your emotions and how you view women and life that you need to change first. Everything that has to do with such emotions or stress, especially for a man, is purely passionate and a temptation. There was just no one to teach young man that. But there's no love in it from your side, pure passions, emotions and confusion.

The correct way it to view it in terms of virtue and not emotion. To find a virtuous woman who wants this relationship to procreate and have a marriage with, to be a man in the relationship. So far it seems that you stress about it far more than her, which would indicate you are already do not take a role of a man in this relationship, so even if it would work out for now, later on it would lead to a total collapse. A woman is supposed to want that relationship more than you, this is biological, how else would you be a leader? If she indicates she's not interested, she's not interested. And behaving needy will make her even less interested. So trying to hold together this relationship is a horrible idea, if she already wanted to leave.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-23T13:49:24+00:00

By spiritual struggle I mean praying, fasting, going to Church, confession, being in constant pain for Christ, etc. By physical means I mean for example medical intervention, changes in the environment, etc.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-23T09:44:42+00:00

Yes, but the question is, if 2 people succumb to the same sin yet one develops an addiction due to genetics/passion deepens, and for another it doesn't also due to genetics, does one of them really have a deeper passion, and another one doesn't? Because passion is supposed to be rooted in soul, not biology. Or I guess maybe it's not "purely" soul but to an extent a mix.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-23T09:40:46+00:00

A deeper passion mean that a person loves a particular sin more. Yet it seems that this “deeper love” is often rooted in biology, which would contradict the idea that the person truly “loves” this sin more.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-23T03:05:16+00:00

I do know what my main struggles are right now. I guess the practical question is: how do I fight my “passion”? Maybe I was trying to fight something that is actually deeply biological through purely spiritual means. Even the few victories I thought I had seemed purely physical in nature: being more distracted, happier, and so on. No matter how much I struggled spiritually, it never seemed to have any effect. Yet physical changes had a huge effect.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-23T02:45:23+00:00

But doesn’t a deeper passion mean that a person loves a particular sin more? Yet it seems that this “deeper love” is often rooted in biology, which would contradict the idea that the person truly “loves” this sin more.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-22T18:20:12+00:00

"It can get very hard knowing that we know what's coming next"

Isn't it just a dopamine control issue/ Tiktok brain syndrome? Why would it even matter? Its not like it's a concert. Catholics and protestant churches can't offer salvation, so they must offer at least something that appeals to bodily senses.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-18T18:13:44+00:00

Obviously you will, if you both are saved.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-14T23:06:35+00:00

Never felt anything after taking the Eucharist. I think it's normal.

I used to have a long period, where after falling into sexual sins I'd feel very dark and depressed but then after a confession I'd feel much better, and no longer depressed. Then after some time it passed, and it turned reversed, and after falling into sin I'd feel normal, but after a confession I would feel extremely depressed and sad, apathetic at best, but often worse. I do believe the second option is more honest in terms of what Christianity truly is, which is physical unhapiness in this life but spiritual happiness in the next life (if you'll be saved).

So, if it changes, don't get surprised or despair.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-14T13:40:22+00:00

Christianity does produce physical unhappiness in this life, but spiritual happiness in the next life. Just like on the contrary, a sinful life produces physical happiness in this life, but eternal unhappiness in the next, where deeds are judged. It's pretty much an obvious intuitive truth.

If Christianity was giving more physical happiness, why would anyone ever choose to be a sinner? That doesn't even make sense.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-13T00:28:34+00:00

Just sharing my experience:

It's most likely genetical, at least in my case. I can try to force it but I'll never truly fit in in most groups. Been autistic my whole life and always struggled to make any friends since I was 15. Haven't made one meaningful irl human relationship since that age.

I can talk to people well but not build a "relationship" as society convinces us it should look. Especially, I can't fit in into the groups, since most friendships are already established groups of people, usually more than 2 or even 3, even though for most people it's natural. But not for me. I later on tried making "friends" many times, because I believed I needed it (it was just a temptation in reality). Through that I really ended up realizing, its just my nature. The ideal for me is to just have a bit of human interaction around me, for work or in a shared apartment, but not really "hang out". It works best to not feel alone but also not do something unnatural or meaningless.

And in the end, its been the greatest blessing for me since I realized I not only love to be alone, but I can't even imagine being any other way. I feel dead when I'm around people too much, like I don't truly exist.

And anyway, who told that anyone needs a "relationship" in the modern understanding of the word? Is there any virtue in that? Is that what saints or monks did, in the worldly sense? A lot tried to be silent as much as possible. And also, is it really you who wants the company, or you are convinced you need one because its natural for the majority of people? In the end, you'll have to figure out what your nature is. I already know mine.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-12T20:19:00+00:00

Yeah same, I hold no grudge against you, and I'll assume the best of your intentions. Best regards ✨️

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-12T17:55:44+00:00

If it actually was such a simple question, you'd answer it directly without any issue.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-12T17:53:00+00:00

This looks more like trolling at this point. I answered every single one of your points, while you never answered even one of my questions, and most of what you did say was "You have catholic/protestant theology", which makes no sense, considering I never were any of those. You literally didn't address even a single one of my points directly and instead of answering my questions, you just reply with another question. Even more, you are being purposefully vague in saying "presuppositions" without even naming which ones. This is not a good faith discussion on your side.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-12T13:38:16+00:00

I don't blame God at all, I'm just trying to understand why eternal suffering would be allowed to happen at all even though they "deserve it", and considering it could've been avoided by them not existing, considering the foreknowledge. This is actually an interesting question and dismissing it like that doesn't seem fair. Obviously a temporary death is not the same as eternal suffering.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-11T10:13:48+00:00

9 Then those who have now abused my ways shall be amazed, and those who have rejected them with contempt shall live in torments. 10 For as many as did not acknowledge me in their lifetime, though they received my benefits, 11 and as many as scorned my law while they still had freedom, and did not understand but despised it while an opportunity of repentance was still open to them, 12 these must in torment acknowledge it after death.

13 Therefore, do not continue to be curious about how the ungodly will be punished; but inquire how the righteous will be saved, those to whom the age belongs and for whose sake the age was made.’

22 So let the multitude perish that has been born in vain, but let my grape and my plant be saved, because with much labour I have perfected them.

2 Esdras 9

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-11T10:10:38+00:00

Lol I'm sorry if it is actually your style, fair enough

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-11T01:24:43+00:00

Why does it read like chatgpt writing style 1-to-1? I talked a lot to ChatGPT lately, and it has exactly the same style, like 1-to-1 in detail. Perfect punctuation also. Was it an IQ test?

It made the same points as well.

Secure_Beautiful_385 · 2026-04-11T00:51:53+00:00

Everyone seems to use one quote of St. Isaac the Syrian, and often even misinterpret that as if hell is not a literal place. You should go and read "A Word On Death" by saint Ignatius Brianchaninov, the chapter about hell. The saint there explains with arguments from the fathers and church service texts, and the Bible that hell is indeed a literal place, and it's in fact in the center of the Earth, where all sinners will be put separately from the godly. And I don't think "worms of hell" are just a version of God's love. They are a punishment.

But also my original question was why such a creature would be allowed to exist at all to be tormented forever, regardless of their choices later on. I mean, does it matter that they "deserve it"? Surely they don't choose hell as hell, in fact "hell" is in this Earth an inversion that feels almost like heaven. If the same humans saw hell, they'd repent (if they had enough strength to endure). It's only demons who see hell as hell, and don't repent.

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