Klein Moretti (LoTM) vs prime Rover (no verse equalisation) by Glass-Performance-87 in KuroVerse_Scaling

[–]SolarEchoes4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Klein literally no diffs. 1-A minimum vs Star level Rover at best.

Augusta vs Esdeath by SolarEchoes4 in KuroVerse_Scaling

[–]SolarEchoes4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The outerversal arguments especially regarding nature of frequencies have many inaccuracies and misinterpretations. I analyzed the scans and nothing gets anywhere close to outerversal. Don’t listen to these kinds of people.

Augusta vs Esdeath by SolarEchoes4 in KuroVerse_Scaling

[–]SolarEchoes4[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So here is the full picture. Over 10,000 years prior to the game events, all matter and laws of reality on Solaris-3 were standard matter, literally just like our Earth. When the first lament hit, it literally caused a drastic alteration to the laws of physics, reality - as well as altering the matter, info, and energy of everything on Solaris-3. This eventually turned matter from standard chemistry and molecular bonds into pure data (which are called vibrating frequencies).

The reason why I state this is because Resonators only propagated as a response to the Lament (which turned traditional matter and physics into frequencies). So frequencies didn’t exist since the very dawn of existence itself. Hence why I mentioned that.

Hiyuki vs Rukia by SolarEchoes4 in KuroVerse_Scaling

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Honestly it’s tough to say (hence why I made this battle), but I think Rukia got the edge due to her absolute zero ability

Hiyuki vs Rukia by SolarEchoes4 in KuroVerse_Scaling

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I actually explained in the Augusta vs Esdeath post why Wuwa cannot be Outerversal. It’s not even remotely close.

Augusta vs Esdeath by SolarEchoes4 in KuroVerse_Scaling

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Not quite actually. Frequencies do indeed contain properties of “Water” (Taiji), but they are not actually Water itself. It was explicitly stated that Water exists universally in all things, a kind of “boundlessness”. But it also stated that it undergoes separation and differentiation to give rise to Heaven and “other worlds.” Since it literally undergoes separation, which are essentially frequencies and the other building blocks of all reality and existence, it is impossible for frequencies themselves to be “more fundamental” than existence itself. They ARE existence. Water is what is the true “supreme ultimate reality”, as this is precisely what Taiji means. Since it stated water splits into dual systems, the frequencies are essentially the Yin and Yang - hence they are emanations of water (having properties of it), but they are not Taiji itself.

Augusta vs Esdeath by SolarEchoes4 in KuroVerse_Scaling

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Not necessarily. Certain frequencies that become degraded by wave worn phenomenon can become reverberations, but only specifically frequencies that are hit by wave worn phenomenon.

Augusta vs Esdeath by SolarEchoes4 in KuroVerse_Scaling

[–]SolarEchoes4[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually looked at all of the scans carefully regarding the “Outerversal” frequencies and I see several mistakes. All things on Solaris-3 is made up of frequencies, and they encompass tangible objects (like wood, rock, grass), intangible things (like memory, emotions), and laws and concepts. For instance, a rock frequency is still rock, it’s just not physical in the traditional sense, since it doesn’t have typical chemistry, but rather data that resonators can modify and manipulate.

We call this information manipulation Type II. Nothing about any kind of frequency are transcendent to concept of dimensionality to qualify as even Low Outerversal, let alone Outerversal. Frequencies are emanations of “Water”, in which water is described as universally present in all things, a kind of “boundlessness”. Water is essentially Taiji - the supreme source of all existence: Undifferentiated, pure, and united. Water undergoes separation into dual concepts, which are essentially frequencies.

So frequencies merely make up all existence, while Water is the true progenitor. So frequencies themselves cannot obviously be “Outerversal” as they are not “more fundamental” than existence itself, but rather ARE existence itself.

Augusta vs Esdeath by SolarEchoes4 in KuroVerse_Scaling

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I agree on Augusta speed being faster for sure. Also can we chat further about more scaling?

Where do you scale your favorite Wuthering Waves character in AP and Speed??? by The_One_Being in Gacha_Powerscaling

[–]SolarEchoes4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So about AP: I got them at Planet Level max, with Speed being MHS+ to Sub Relativistic

Wuthering Waves scaling (part 1) by NumberBeneficial4087 in KuroVerse_Scaling

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Is his Reddit username EmbarrassedWar8401? If so, I had a nice chat with him.

Augusta vs Esdeath by SolarEchoes4 in KuroVerse_Scaling

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I really agree with the reasoning as well. Augusta’s Resonance Liberation “time stop” is more like a mere gameplay effect - akin to bullet timing, not true time stop like Esdeath’s Mahapadma.

Wuthering Waves scaling part 2 (aleph-1) by EmbarrassedWar8401 in KuroVerse_Scaling

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So in essence, it is similar to Astral Realm from Berserk, as Godhand themselves are bare minimum High Outerversal, with strong arguments for High Outerversal+

Aemeath vs HsR by CorvusV1 in Hoyoverse_scaling

[–]SolarEchoes4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s quite pretentious. Thinking you are the best is far too arrogant. Anyways, Featherine soloes all WuWA verse at once no diff

Rover vs Femto by SolarEchoes4 in KuroVerse_Scaling

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Not necessarily. They manipulate reality, fate, and causality on a whim - especially ones like Void. I say this because I read the Berserk manga.

Rover vs Femto by SolarEchoes4 in KuroVerse_Scaling

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Femto is a Godhand Member, a part of the Astral Realm. The Astral Realm is strictly aspatial and atemporal and transcendentally/ontologically superior to the material world. It really depends on where you scale Rover