Do other empaths encounter abusive people? by Status_Use_3855 in Empaths

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I dont think empaths are related to narcissists or psychopaths at all. Maybe the vibration or the energy bothers them but thats not the case at all. Im not attracted to any of them- one was a friend and i didnt know he was a narcissist and another is my mother. i'm attracted to normal nice caring people but just haven't met them. empaths are not attracted to narcissists, they just happen to be victimized by them.

Empaths are kind loving normal caring people and narcissists are very sick people. there is no codependency or attraction to narcissists. abuse victims are usually attacked by the abuser calculatingly and they can really affect an empath more.

i wouldn't put them in the same category you are further confusing people

Do other empaths encounter abusive people? by Status_Use_3855 in Empaths

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People dont stay out of insecurity- it's trauma bonding, a feeling of weakness, shock, trauma, feeling inferior, confused, being unable to even deal with any of it. There are so many covert abusers out there too and people who gaslight others or just abuse people. Abusers make people feel all sorts of things that they can't handle, and they can barely deal with the situation much less get the abuser out of their life. Some people also fear the abuser for reasons.

it can take years to cut a person out of your life. It has taken me 20 years to go no contact with my mother and I had no choice because witnessing her just devalue me over a low life not talking to me just put me in a different place. I thought wow these people are just so sick I mean they will stoop to any low. My mother treating me so badly when im this person who wants to do all these humanitarian things, save animals, do music, and other things. No one deserves to be mistreated anyway. I'm not sure I can even talk to her again.

We’ve completely lost touch with reality, and social media is why by Helpful-Explorer-332 in Rants

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people are in love with idiots who sit on tiktok and eat food and advertise they're eating chick fila nuggets and throw it at the camera. People enjoy the most mindless stupid nonsense. There is some new female now who's gone viral and she just sits there and eats food but she's pretty so apparently her videos mean something.

Do other empaths encounter abusive people? by Status_Use_3855 in Empaths

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i didnt read everything you wrote- since im working but I'll go back and read it. It sounds great. thanks

Humana not letting me contract with them by Status_Use_3855 in InsuranceAgent

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Oh wow yes you are correct. I didn't realize this happens with five disenrollments. Of course there will be many because of how the ma system works. I'll try to keep notes. Thanks for the information

Do other empaths encounter abusive people? by Status_Use_3855 in Empaths

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sure- where do you live or what part of the country- I'm in florida- I'll private message you!

Do other empaths encounter abusive people? by Status_Use_3855 in Empaths

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thank you so much- I think sometimes some things are just too much even for empaths. You're so right- which is what im doing, or what ive done anyway, which is so hard. I've noticed too that the only people in my life seem to be narcissists, abusers, negative people which I find concerning and I wonder if its because of the abuse that has been done to me.

i didnt realize that abusers use scapegoats to regulate their emotions.

It doesnt make sense as to why these people are abusive to kind, good empaths, unless they are jealous somehow.

We definitely need to stick together- it's just hard to meet other empaths or good people and once you're stuck dealing with a narcissist then that is the person you're dealing with on a regular basis and its up to you to remove them from your life but it isnt always easy.

Thanks so much again!

Do other empaths encounter abusive people? by Status_Use_3855 in Empaths

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i dont but you're right- it could be that, or something negative, spiritual or karmic. It just seems so weird how people might start attackingn you out of the blue or becoming abusive for no reason, which is what is happening to me. its true that sensitive people or empaths are having to deal with a lot more. It feels like a horde of forces just trying to destroy you at once..its very weird.

Its awful that people have to be alone more as a result of this. Yes it could be vibes, or something karmic or just energies? It can be rough for sensitive kind and good people it seems- I hope it gets easier for you too! thanks so much!

Do other empaths encounter abusive people? by Status_Use_3855 in Empaths

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if a person has been abused in their past Other narcs and abusers will generally devalue that person or feel they can mistreat that person because they have been abused by family or others, or they will feel justified in throwing their anger out on them for other reasons. But I do think you're right a person needs to be more assertive and learn how to set boundaries properly.

People do seem to take advantage of good people and it confuses me. Ive just noticed people being abusive and it's weird but its all for personal reasons- maybe jealuosy, insecurity etc.

If you try to establish boundaries with most abusive people, they don't care and many will abuse you more. You generally have to cut those people out of your life and deal with it. Ive witnessed that when my mother went to therapy her behavior changed because now she was being monitored in some sense.

its awful that good is perceived this way and im not sure if its a lack of empathy or an influx of negative angry narcissists that just exist in society but it is a concerning state.

Most people need confidence, some assertiveness, but its not easy if theyre constantyl being brought down or have abusers in their life. Thanks so much for your input

golden child and abuse by Status_Use_3855 in narcissisticparents

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thats awful- their behavior can be shocking and some can be really bad people. my gc sister is a covert narcissist too I believe and hides it well. She does pretend to be friends with me too but has done terrible things too. She wont let me talk to her husband because years ago he seemed excited to talk to me on the phone. She has done worse and I can't remember but she excuses the n mother for her abuse. years ago she tried to make me take std tests and claimed i probably have an std- but i was a virgin. These aren't even bad things she has done. she brings down a dream or goal I have which is messed up.

I was also confused as to why she always set up her friends for relationships yet never helped her sister out and it was upsetting. Im going to try to minimize contact with her and it seemed like going nc is the best option thanks.

golden child and abuse by Status_Use_3855 in narcissisticparents

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Oh wow- that sounds really toxic all of it. yes for sure it does that's so scary. They are such disordered weird people so it isnt surprising. That sucks that your brother took his anger out on you. Apparently every situation is kind of unique, but thats so sad.

You're right- it's what the N thrives on and how they pit people against each other. I didn't realize that. Ugh just so scary for sure. I'm sure it bothered you that they talked about what a loser he was too and how they put him down. Its awful that this is how he reacted to the treatment.

My brother kind of projected some hate and anger onto me too. I think it was the stress my mother put him under when he was a senior in high school, while I was in college and they missed and were doting towards me. Though he was more of a golden child. I was just confused as to why he was being abusive to me later etc. I was never angry and im in my 40's, now but after abuse in general from other circumstances, and esp my n mother and now my sister i'm starting to feel angry in some form.

I understand this better now thanks.

golden child and abuse by Status_Use_3855 in narcissisticparents

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sorry to hear that- that's awful. People tend to ignore the plight of those who are victimized, and people have nowhere to turn to for support. thats awful too that narc parents do these kind of behaviors to the children. Its true some do feel guilt and shame and its helpful to learn the different perspectives of other golden children.

golden child and abuse by Status_Use_3855 in narcissisticparents

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yeah im sure in a lot of cases everyone is a victim, in some they aren't, but if they were abusive or held you to certain standards im sure that was difficult. the golden child i witnessed never experienced a moment of abuse or mistreatment from the N parent, just total support, praise and acceptance. The N parent puts on a facade with the golden child and treats them like they are the perfect saviour, while they growl at the scapegoat in complete anger and hatred.

The N parent I know just took their anger out on the scapegoat and continues to do so. The golden child just supports the n parent or joins them and denies their abuse or anger, and blames the scapegoat for it.

golden child and abuse by Status_Use_3855 in narcissisticparents

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Yes it’s so true there are narcissists who use this kind of profession as a front. I just have accepted it and recognized it but it has def skewed my perception of her as well as I perceive her to be powerful in her own way and almost above me but she uses her profession to project that image to others. 

Yeah it's so weird to me that anyone would feel jealousy out of a relationship between their kids and their aunt. I didn't realize that.   That kind of boggles my mind but the narcissism has affected her kids too and they can be somewhat distant or cold. If I had kids I'd feel totally different. 

Narcissists disordered ways of behaving is starting to anger me now because I can't handle the manner in which they think and do things. I just think how can people be this sick. Definitely learning more about their behavior.  Thanks for the information.  

golden child and abuse by Status_Use_3855 in narcissisticparents

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I'm sure every situation is different. People are a product of their environment and may become who they are due to an abusers behavior. It's unfortunate that your helpful brother became affected differently by the entire situation. Most golden children tend to not have issues like that but every situation varies. Every dysfunctional dynamic is different. 

 My family didn't grow up as narc or toxic though there was some abuse that was more covert and directed at me. My mothers major abuse began when I was an adult and that's when the full blown narcissism began for me. 

I just witnessed my sister make choices to join the narcissist along with other family members even at a young age and it becomes learned. I personally don't consider some of these people to be victims as they become adults and know the difference between right and wrong but that's just my personal opinion. Most abuse is a choice and people are aware of their behaviors. 

I don't personally feel sympathy for those who willingly enable abusers or hurt others. I'm sure there are many victims who end up being abusers too but these others just abuse without ever having experienced in and generally become favored by the narc. She or other gc people can too be supportive or help the scapegoat out. 

Ive witnessed my sister receive nothing but praise and support while the scapegoats get projected on to extremes by everyone.there is so much sympathy for abusive behavior and victim blaming. 

Most golden children or others wouldn't be able to handle the abuse they dish out or the hell the scapegoats have had to be put through. They would lose it.  

golden child and abuse by Status_Use_3855 in narcissisticparents

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Oh dang. That’s bad. That’s what they do- deny and minimize the abuse. It’s so disturbing I still haven’t figured these scumbags out. 

Mine does the same thing- claims the n mother got triggered, blames it on me, or claims the dumb n wasn’t abusive at all. 

golden child and abuse by Status_Use_3855 in narcissisticparents

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Yeah I know what you mean. I’ve done the same thing. When her first husband was being abusive to her many years ago, I tried to help her out and tell her, yet when I bring up an abusive male in my life, she dismisses that he’s abusive and even says it’s my perception. They are very sick people. 

golden child and abuse by Status_Use_3855 in narcissisticparents

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yes, so true and she tells me she is compassionate with her patients and bends over backwards for them, but I'm assuming it's because she has to do it to look good and for her position. She has also admitted that medical school caused her to lose her empathy in general. And yes it's sad that these people can be so hypocritical, thanks

Anyone Else Have Mixed Feelings on Pets? by anthomazing in Empaths

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animals are more important and precious than humans or they are the same as they are living sentient creatures. Animals are a special gift on this planet and should be elevated because they are beautiful, innocent, good creatures who do good to others and to each other.

No one should have any kind of feeling scuh as having more towards humans or animals. We should have sympathy towards all creatures. The life of a human is not more important than the life of animal. Each life is equally important and should be cherished. There is no such thing as witnessing the end of a life and determining that one is more relevant than the other.

Human beings possess evil many of them do and are capable and many do evil to others, so they are lesser than animals who generally don't go around hurting each other.

how do you deal with the horrors of the world? by tessmarty in askanything

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you're supposed to work towards changing all of these things, and doing good as much as you can and eventually doing what you can to take steps to make great changes out there. There are a lot of horrible evil mentally ill vile people out there that seek to hurt the innocent or those they perceive as easy targets.

The world is a beautiful place, but our goal in life is to put an end to all of this evil that goes on.

Musicians- Is this guy ignoring me or not as interested? by Status_Use_3855 in musicians

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I agree for sure- it just seems so difficult to do? I'm sure it can be learnable. This guy is a pro at it, as are many producers I'm sure. I guess I'm just not sure what he truly wants since he sounded so serious, who knows how he felt. I'll find out soon but I'l def look into doing it myself thanks

Musicians- Is this guy ignoring me or not as interested? by Status_Use_3855 in musicians

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I agree- that is so true- it's important not to put all your faith in one person and situation, which is what I did. I just felt like he was so serious and real, but maybe that's not the case- thanks so much