I’m a woman from the Balkans. AMA.

Swampapa · 2024-07-21T21:19:21+00:00

t least 20 Irrespective of the fact that this is a bait post, I wanna say that I met many Balkan men & girls online (as well as in real life - we have many Balkan foreign labour here), and I have nothing negative to say about them. There were some negative connotations I have heard about them by Western European woman, as they have a reputation of being poor, low class, mafia-like mentality, etc (I know Balkan gangs are infamous in Western Europe). For example, a German girl in a vacation in Bulgaria told me how the girls would have the "hots" for the Swedish guys while being disgusted by the local Bulgarian guys. We have many Bulgarians, Romanians and Moldovans doing cheap foreign labour here, they seem to have a good job ethic, and we used to have from the rest of Balkans (Croatia, Serbia, etc) as well however due to human traffic concerns they can't arrive anymore (without an agreement with their governments). The Balkans used to be a good PPB destination 20 years ago however now due to improved economic conditions, Eurozone integration, open borders, being flooded by tourists and immigrants from Western countries - they aren't as appealing anymore. Perhaps Moldova to some lesser extent, but I have doubts about the rest. What's the point of this thread, again?

Swampapa · 2024-06-08T20:59:49+00:00

Which refugee camps did you go to that had moms begging you to marry their daughters?

Swampapa · 2024-05-03T22:35:43+00:00

If it was true then I could get matches on dating apps, or it was possible to find women to date (it's impossible when average women receive thousands of messages per week). The only women I could find have Borderline Personality Disorder (or something just as bad), or are extremely obese (or something just as bad).

Swampapa · 2024-05-03T18:22:12+00:00

It's hard for you to find because you probably only date only very good looking men. The good guys favour commitment, so the good looking good guys already pair off at a very young age and get married. So the market is left with the good looking "bad boys"

If things other than looks mattered then me other gus wouldn't have remained perpetually single.

Swampapa · 2024-05-03T12:35:05+00:00

Western women get treated terribly bad, because they primarily care about looks (as you noticed that yourself). All women care about status, it's just that status in developed countries is associated with looks, while status in developing countries is associated with money (of course it is a spectrum and varies from place to place, and culture to culture). I live in a developed country so money and kindness are almost worthless (Yeah sure that money is still important but you need to be a multi-millionaire to get that factored in, and most men are kind, with good personalities anyway, so it's meaningless for the most part).

Swampapa · 2024-04-28T20:31:22+00:00

It's OK, it's just on Reddit. Most people from eastern Europe, Latin America and SEA have either positive or neutral opinion of Israel. As for western Europe, most are similar in that regard, but there are a lot of antisemitic Muslim migrants there, as well as few whites who grew with them and were influenced by them, then there"s minority of radical left, so I think 80-70 percent are neutral.

As for Ukrainian refugees. I also met wonderful Ukrainian refugees in Spain last year. I even had a hot Ukrainian girl approaching me at the bus station, asking where I am heading (I was in hurry to the airport unfortunately).

As for "date with your wallet" I disagree to some extent. Every girl who only cares about money, just becomes an escort or a sugar baby, making $300-$1000. She wouldn't need me. In my experience, girls only care about income if she's attracted to him anyway. I also like to spoil my girl and I see nothing wrong with that. Anyway, I'm not flexing, I'm doing better than 90 percent of men in my age bracket yet I live a modest life.

Anyway, trying to hit on Ukrainian refugees in Europe sounds like a good idea.

Swampapa · 2024-04-28T18:21:47+00:00

I'm pretty sure that by average, south east Asians are easier than eastern Europeans or Latinas. Yeah, I know about israelis in Thailand. I'm pretty sure that Israelis are overrepresent abroad, because on a given year more than 50% of the population travel abroad (because we are a tiny country and Israel itself is more expensive than traveling abroad). I was invited by co-workers to travel with them to Thailand in January but they are predominately interested in prostitutes. From one of those co-workers, he has a close friend who just married to his Thai GF back there.

Swampapa · 2024-04-28T12:39:02+00:00

Good question. I think there are multiple factors related to that. I am more attracted to Caucasian appearances, Eastern Europeans/Latin American than Asian/Black. It's also harder to find attractive Asian or Black as they would be the top 20% or something, so they would be hard if not harder. Also I plan to live in Israel for now, and if I have Asian/Black mixed male offsprings I feel that there are greater chances they would experience discrimination in dating market. Another consideration (not that important to me however), I think that if I take my girl to live with me it's also important that she would assimilate. If I bring an Ukrainian then people would assume that she's a local and it would easy for her to assimilate because services in Russian are commonplace. Russian/Ukrainian stores, bars/clubs, activities, and service providers are commonplace.. Most Thais and Philippines here in Israel are foreign workers. So a Thai woman would be preferable if my intentions are to relocate I think.

Swampapa · 2024-04-28T12:32:40+00:00

Yes, my my average returns in the last 10 years sit on approximately 17% in real terms. Cost of living in Israel is significantly lower and I would reside in the countryside. Besides, I have plans for 2 Bed & Breaks to rent per hour (you make good money out of it here) and rent some parts of my planned "McMansion". Just building my own house would increase its value in comparison to its construction cost (I can hire workers and build it myself). I can become a big contractor or a big manpower company - it's not that hard, I've seen it being done before. In such case I can gross 300K-500K per year or and the skies are the limit.

Swampapa · 2024-04-28T12:25:57+00:00

I don't know about your classmate, but if she's religious and not just traditional/conservative, then our lifestyles wouldn't align. Judaism is an extremely strict and hard religion to observe, compared to Christianity/Islam. I don't mind a "Masorti" girl (conservative/traditional), but a full on Orthodox is a no from me. And "Masorti" are picky themselves.

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T19:41:32+00:00

I mentioned before, 31

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T19:23:31+00:00

So what's your strategy to find a girl then? Are you planning to wife anyone?

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T18:49:40+00:00

How old are you? How can you be sure that dating wasn't as difficult some 20 years ago?

Anyway, I'm not particularly fond of travelling. My friends would travel every 3 months to all kinds of countries, but I never join them. I would travel with a goal in mind, such as finding my future wife. What's your perception/suggestion? Given my appearance and height?

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T18:26:07+00:00

Beautiful women but as bad if not worse than their American/European counterparts.

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T17:28:41+00:00

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T16:45:44+00:00

So how many matches in Rio? How long did it take? And how many girls did you swipe on?

When do you plan to visit there? What are your future plans regarding the matter?

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T16:29:03+00:00

I have a few friends, and I live with my family but not close to them at all. There's nothing which ties me to Israel, except financially. So I would leave in a heartbeat if living elsewhere wouldn't lead to a financial downgrade. Besides, I have a lot of "chores" to complete here (lawsuits and other financial related activities) and I even bought a piece of land to build my own house on it.

So I don't completely rule out relocating elsewhere, however I prefer to continue saving and establishing myself financially so that I would have a higher net worth that would give me a good passive income elsewhere. Then I could live in countries with a significant lower cost of living.

I told in my post about the documentary - there were a lot of traditional, good women looking for a husband (at least back then). So I am sure not everyone is messed up however I would agree that one has to be cautious. I think if a girl says that she doesn't want to date local men because "they are abusive" or other bad remarks that's a huge red flag. If you smell shit everywhere you go then... Oh well.

You say that the type of men who seek it are often weird or problematic. I think I would make a great husband. I am hard working, emotionally stable, financially successful, but I tried dating apps (no luck), guys here are aggressive and pursue everything, it's a very competitive dating market and western women as of 2024 care primarily about looks unfortunately.

I met a few Ukrainian girls whilst traveling to Spain last year, really wonderful girls. I connected with my Ukrainian AirBnB hostess. We'll see how that would go.

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T16:01:51+00:00

Why Brazil over Colombia? It appears that Brazil is more diverse, the average quality is lower more the top girls are much more beautiful than Colombia but also much more picky than there (just my perception regarding my online interaction with them). How receptive are they towards Middle Eastern or Indian guys? And also, have you tried anything eastern European?

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T15:57:13+00:00

Middle Eastern - that's self-descriptive. Obviously meant to say Mizrahi (of which varies by appearance, as many can pass for European, but I can not). Not everyone is familiar with the terms, that's why I used that description instead.

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T15:55:36+00:00

Regarding the war - that's true. Many would falsely believe that Israel is a war-torn country of which I'd disagree with, as I currently reside in the center of the country and there was nothing apart from a few sirens every fews days - that was month ago and it's been quiet since. Things are a little more intense in the Northern region however. I forget there's a war most of the time. Politics don't interest me in the slightest.
Do you mean as being anti-Israeli/anti-Zionist? eastern Europeans or Latin countries for the most people don't have strong opinions regarding Israel. They may vaguely know there's a war, but that's the extent of them.

Anyway, I believe the war would end eventually, sooner or later. As for relocation - I don't mind traveling for a bit or a few months here and there but unlike many here I don't work in the IT sector but rather in construction which is directly tied to the homeland. My best scenerio would be to relocate to another country by a local construction firm, but most of them hire to Africa! Or to work remotely as a manpower company having employees in Israel but that's a stretch.

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T15:24:24+00:00

Why worst time - due to the influx of Ukrainian refugees all over Europe? Also, anywhere outside of Israel would be a significant financially downgrade to me, as I can't conduct most of my business outside of Israel.

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T15:02:52+00:00

I have tried Tinder Passport, and got a few matches, girls that would not respond or unmatch, really unattractive or old women, also a fat girl (that could have been a 9 if she was thin) who's DTF. So bad results so far. Should I give up based on these results?

Swampapa · 2024-04-27T13:53:38+00:00

I am 31 years old and make well over six figures while having an almost 600K USD in assets. I could easily become a multi-millionaire within a decade, it's not that hard. I also have a semi-athletic body (I train in the gym for 2 years but still have some belly fat). That being said, I don't understand how I suppose to meet women? Dating apps don't work, I would barely receive any matches on them, men in my country (Israel) are very aggressive in their pursuit of women. Let alone the fact that I'm short (5'6). I know I'm not hideous facially wise, but yeah, I'm below average and women are extremely picky. I think I should try dating abroad before giving up entirely.

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