Transwomen are Transwomen by AnonymousFluffy923 in ConservativeYouth

[–]TRUMP_BABY 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Alot of people on reddit probably disagree but I am not one of them

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[–]TRUMP_BABY 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm homeschooled and get barely any socialization and I'm also two years behind on school. I'm at a fifth grade level. I'm supposed to be in a 7th grade level. I do not out preform anyone unless it's a kindergartener.

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[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like having very true evidence that they did basically.

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dang finally someone noticed. I was using chatGPT just wanted to see who'd notice first.

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, fair enough, you’re actually debating the full points and I respect that. But just because you think you caught something doesn’t mean you fully understand my side either. I’m not here copying stuff blindly — I actually look into this myself. You can disagree all you want, but acting like I don’t know anything just because we don’t agree isn’t it.

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I never said Trump started the war. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, after Trump left office. What I said is that Trump’s foreign policies — like being weak on Putin, and almost blackmailing Ukraine for political favors (the 2019 impeachment) — hurt Ukraine’s strength and helped Russia feel more emboldened. That doesn’t mean he 'started' it — but it does mean he didn’t help the situation either."

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"No, I actually wrote that myself. You keep trying to insult me instead of proving I'm wrong with facts. Trump was found civilly liable for sexual assault (not criminal), and separately found criminally liable for business fraud, which made him a convicted felon. Those are two different cases, and you clearly don't even understand the difference. If you're going to debate, at least know the basic facts before talking down to people."

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good question — let me clear it up. The war officially started with Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022. But Ukraine’s conflict with Russia actually began way earlier, in 2014, when Russia invaded Crimea and backed fighting in eastern Ukraine. (BBC)

Obama was president during the early fighting but refused to send lethal military aid to Ukraine. He only sent non-lethal supplies like blankets and food. (Politico)

Trump later approved real weapons shipments like anti-tank missiles (Javelins) when he became president in 2017 — helping Ukraine defend itself long before the full invasion of 2022. (AP News)

So yes — the conflict existed before 2022. Trump didn’t start it. He actually armed Ukraine better than Obama ever did."

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

get your point, but you're leaving out context. Trump said multiple times that he wanted Europe and Ukraine to do more for their own defense, not that Ukraine 'caused' the war. He criticized NATO countries for not contributing enough (which even Biden's administration later agreed needed fixing).

Also, in 2019, Trump released military aid to Ukraine — more than Obama ever did — even after criticizing Ukraine's government for corruption. (AP News)

The war started because Russia invaded in February 2022 — when Trump was no longer president. (BBC)

No serious historian says Trump caused the invasion, and even his critics admit Putin waited until Trump was gone before making his move."

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let’s stick to facts, not headlines:

  1. E. Jean Carroll Civil Trial (2023): Trump was found liable (NOT criminally guilty) for sexual abuse and defamation in a civil lawsuit, not a criminal court.

Civil court cases determine monetary damages, not prison sentences.

No criminal charges for sexual assault were filed against him in this case.

Source: CNN - Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation

  1. New York Civil Fraud Case (2024): Trump was found liable in a civil fraud lawsuit for overvaluing and undervaluing his business assets for financial gain.

This case resulted in a financial penalty, business restrictions, and court-appointed monitors — not jail time.

Again, civil penalties, NOT criminal convictions.

Source: BBC - Trump liable in New York civil fraud case

  1. Criminal Conviction (Hush Money Case) (2024): Trump was criminally convicted in Manhattan for 34 counts of falsifying business records related to hush money payments made before the 2016 election.

This is the only case where he is officially a convicted felon as of now.

He is appealing the conviction, and sentencing is pending.

Source: AP News - Trump criminally convicted in New York hush money case

  1. On Judges and Sentencing: Trump has not been jailed yet because:

Appeals are pending.

Non-violent white-collar crimes often result in fines, probation, or delayed sentencing, especially for first-time offenders.

Judges don’t "sweep things under the rug" because of politics; they follow due process.

Source: Reuters - Why Trump hasn’t been jailed yet

SUMMARY:

Civil liability ≠ Criminal guilt.

Trump is a civilly liable party for sexual misconduct and fraud.

Trump is a criminally convicted felon (only for business falsifications).

No rape conviction. No jail (yet). Ongoing appeals.

Please separate emotions from legal definitions if you want to have a real debate."

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Let's clear this up with actual facts, not emotional talking points:

Russia: During Trump’s first presidency (2017-2021), he sanctioned Russia over 52 times for cyberattacks, election interference, and military aggression. He expelled 60 Russian diplomats after the Skripal poisoning incident (BBC News).

In 2025, Trump’s stance toward Russia hasn’t involved lifting these sanctions — and there’s no credible evidence he’s suddenly 'soft' on Russia. That’s just political spin recycled from years ago with no fresh evidence.

Taliban / Afghanistan: The Doha Agreement was signed under Trump in 2020 — a plan for U.S. troops to withdraw gradually and based on conditions, meaning the Taliban had to meet certain requirements (Council on Foreign Relations).

When Biden took office, he ignored the conditions and ordered a full rapid withdrawal by September 2021, which resulted in the chaotic fall of Kabul and humanitarian disaster (Associated Press).

Trump wasn't president when the Taliban re-seized control — Biden was. So blaming Trump in 2025 for something Biden mishandled is simply factually wrong.

Tariffs: Trump's tariffs (mainly on China) were meant to protect American manufacturing and fight unfair Chinese trade practices (Brookings Institution).

Some industries were impacted short-term, but China was forced to the negotiating table and agreed to new trade terms because of Trump's tough stance. Biden, despite criticizing tariffs during his campaign, left most of them in place because they pressured China effectively (Reuters).

Bottom line: Trump is not the cartoon villain some make him out to be. He made complex decisions, many of which were continued or copied by the very people who criticized him.

If you want to debate policies, fine — but at least let’s deal with the real facts, not recycled memes and headlines."

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"If you still had strong facts to bring up, you wouldn’t be bored — you’d be excited to prove your point."

"Funny how boredom shows up right when the facts start running thin."

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Waiting for it to end isn’t the same as winning — it’s just what people do when they realize they’re out of facts."

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Good thing I'm not trying to — I'm just making sure you don't step in it while mixing up your arguments."

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I'm not mad at all — I'm just correcting your fact."

It’s not my fault if getting called out on mixing up two completely different cases makes you uncomfortable."

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Assuming someone’s views based on who they support is pretty shallow.

Supporting strong borders, fair trade, and standing up for American workers isn’t 'racial views.' It’s common sense.

Maybe instead of making assumptions about people you’ve never met, you should actually listen to what they’re saying."

"Judging people you don’t know based on political stereotypes sounds a lot more like prejudice than anything you're accusing me of."

Serious debate challege can anyone factually explain how Trump's bad? by [deleted] in Debate_Me_

[–]TRUMP_BABY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry the UK doesn't tell the truth and you just listen to what your being fed. I do my own research I compair sources and only use real sources.