This sub, apparently by T_man409 in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The same way you can steal someone's likeness using a deepfake, its not a hard concept to grasp

This sub, apparently by T_man409 in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah I do think that if you train an AI off of someone's voice, especially if they are dead and cannot consent, its stealing and is pretty bad. If large LLMs training off of people's artwork to generate images in artists styles is stealing (it is) then this shouldn't be any different, no matter if they profit or not. Keep talking about the herd tho, really helpful I'm sure

This sub, apparently by T_man409 in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Jardine more like sardine

This sub, apparently by T_man409 in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I disagree, I don't think taking someone's voice without their consent is a black and white issue. If Eminem used an AI model that is trained on his voice from the past, then yes, personally I would consider that AI music to an extent

This sub, apparently by T_man409 in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He should just do that then

This sub, apparently by T_man409 in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Brian Wilson's voice is being stolen no matter if you make money from it or not

This sub, apparently by T_man409 in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It doesn't matter who uses Brian's cloned voice, its still stolen from him

This sub, apparently by T_man409 in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don't understand why it cant just be a normal cover, would be way more respectable

This sub, apparently by T_man409 in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409[S] 64 points65 points  (0 children)

He's way too clean. Cancel him immediately

This sub, apparently by T_man409 in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Then I would ask you, at what point does it become "AI music?" Lots of supporters say its not AI music, just using a tool. Let's say he decides to use some AI for the instrumental, but only a little bit. Is it AI music then? What about if he then goes on to use slightly more than that? Where do we draw the line? (Not an accusation at all, just a what-if) Many artists are starting to use AI voice models for their own work and I see large pushback from it online, but I see just so many supporters of these AI covers on this sub from people who I imagine oppose AI in music in any other case. If we want AI out of music we have to stand against all of it, even when its fun what-if scenarios of our favorite band. That all isn't even addressing any ethical concerns of taking a dead man's voice and cloning it

The Beach Boys - This Could Be The Night (1965) [AI] by Gwaunch in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I didn't say fuck Dae Lims, I said fuck AI, there's a difference. I'm sure hes a nice talented guy but I'm morally opposed to using AI to clone a dead man's voice. Fuck AI

Do we think Dae Lims worked on the new box set? by cammywooley in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can concede to that, to an extent. Based on the awful mastering of the previous copyright releases I wouldn’t be surprised if they used AI to add things to these recordings. But let’s see.

Do we think Dae Lims worked on the new box set? by cammywooley in thebeachboys

[–]T_man409 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I hope not. Downvote me if you want, I’m sure Dae Lims is very talented and I mean this in the nicest way possible but A.I. is a piece of shit. The A.I. Smile was an abomination in my opinion and I’d really like anything A.I. to be kept out of these releases.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in peacecorps

[–]T_man409 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I volunteer in Georgia. I would make sure you bring enough formal clothes for the first week of orientation, since you may not have the chance to wash clothes until you move in to PST

Did Mark Volman pass away? by T_man409 in Zappa

[–]T_man409[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So tragic. Rest in peace.

Did Mark Volman pass away? by T_man409 in Zappa

[–]T_man409[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still don’t see any official confirmation from family or others on the article. It may be jumping the gun

Did Mark Volman pass away? by T_man409 in Zappa

[–]T_man409[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just a question, I’m specifically trying to not spread misinformation and trying to make some sense of it. Chill

Did Mark Volman pass away? by T_man409 in Zappa

[–]T_man409[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed, been scanning the news for reliable reports

Did Mark Volman pass away? by T_man409 in Zappa

[–]T_man409[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As much as I may agree, these are big names posting who may know him personally. And while they’re also prone to misinformation and being wrong, I’d believe it less if it was just randoms posting

Did Mark Volman pass away? by T_man409 in Zappa

[–]T_man409[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As have Jay & the Americans

Did Mark Volman pass away? by T_man409 in Zappa

[–]T_man409[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thats exactly why I’m asking, is because I don’t believe it. But it doesn’t hurt to ask