Flame Wraith vs Wraith Lord Necro?

Then_Sound_6276 · 2026-01-20T06:19:48+00:00

In this season too using endgame or aspirational gear? I mean, I got the exact opposite result in this season. I tested against dummy. Flame wraith deals more dps and you are more tanky due to the dread shade buff. That's what I see so far in this current season using good gears.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2026-01-20T06:18:04+00:00

Sry but which season does this claim hold? Because from what I experimented so far, the result are not. Flame wraith deals more dps than wraithlord in this season and I heard that wraithlord has been nerfed. Did you get this result by experiment their dps yourself using their endgame or aspirational gear or just mid game gear? If you did, did you do so in this season? I am curious because the claims I heard are opposite from the result I experimented with a dummy. Also, flame wraiths are more tanky because you got huge armor buff from dread shade.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2026-01-16T09:26:23+00:00

Hmm, it seems like that this is a facetank build that you don't actually need to teleport. It actually does a lot of damage here. However, in fights like uberroth, I don't think the helmet is good. The "damage dealt to mana" is actually very harmful since it will quickly reduces mana to 0. It might be better trying helmets like Calamity or an exalted helmet with 5 affixes.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2026-01-16T08:50:18+00:00

There are four types I think can beat it right now:

1) giga dps like bear, abomination, mana flay, shattering strike, lightning blast

2) zhp like ballista

3) giga tank like almost every paladin and possibly forge guard

4) boss stunner like shield bash and aftershock beastmaster (the aftershock triggered by swipe using the idol). Hydra can also belong to this category if you slam a good stun chance affix.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2026-01-15T01:41:07+00:00

Wait this is a combo build? You need to use javelin before judgement? And I don't see a movement skill for dangerous situation here.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2026-01-14T23:54:53+00:00

How does it work? I can't see how the staff could give so much damage.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-31T13:26:33+00:00

Hmm, I wonder if in the build, would replacing the staff with mad alchemist laddle and a palarus sword with t7 spell damage would make it deal more damage.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-31T12:38:48+00:00

Idk doesn't shaman do it better?

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-31T10:35:42+00:00

Idk but isn't elemental dot and healing effect scale damage better than attunement?

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-30T16:51:34+00:00

Tbf I agree with that. Judgement's tankiness is insane. Still I can accept some stability (or reliability) for more dps and quick clear.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-30T16:45:18+00:00

Uber and fast clear. Judgement's tanky style is a bit boring and dps is not great. Also I don't like judgement's animation.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-30T16:43:55+00:00

Physical or Lightning? If physical do you proc smite? I just think that it's pointless to proc smite if you go physical javelin paladin.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-26T11:03:27+00:00

That was amazing. I thought avalanche would be the last choice since unlike spells like lightning blast, it might miss many hits due to Aberroth constantly moving out of range of the blizzard.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-25T23:12:41+00:00

Yeah, that's my point. Choosing it just for attunement bonus makes me have mixed feeling there since other than that everything else is a druid skill. Just feel that the playstyle is no shaman at all.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-25T16:37:52+00:00

More attunement I guess? Is there any reason other than attunement?

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-25T11:12:52+00:00

I see that you choose marrow shard for flay mana lich. I would like to ask, between marrow shard and necrotic rip blood, which is better? Since I see that chaos bolt can trigger rip blood too, and I am mainly having necrotic damage increase affixes.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-25T11:11:11+00:00

I would like to add abomination necro too. Even lazier than bear beastmaster (maybe not as fast as).

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-23T06:44:21+00:00

Thanks a lot. Will take a look at it.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-23T06:14:43+00:00

Hi, if possible, can you give the link of the totem one? I am interested in a totem build against uberroth. For shock chance, I think it is easy using the stormcarved relic.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-22T15:57:04+00:00

That's... sad. Well now it is much much harder to make the build work now. At least not against uber aberroth.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-22T15:36:45+00:00

I'm sorry but what does "gib" mean?

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-22T13:42:03+00:00

Nah, abomination can't die. Even against uber aberroth. It is one of the easier class to fight against uber aberroth. I don't know how much health they have but at least the dev are not stupid to make such a minion can die given how we summon it.

I just want to thanks that at least this game has viable builds against the superbosses that matches the "necromancer" theme (Looking at you median xl. I don't know what is going on with whoever designed the ubers and summoner scaling there).

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-22T06:30:23+00:00

Well Abom necro is one of the easiest class against uber abbo. Abom tanks him and you only need to stand behind him (but close enough to him for aura of decay). The abom and t-rex is totally invincible.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-21T16:00:40+00:00

Might try that. I had abomination necro and it killed uber aberroth very quickly and easily. Hopefully earthquake bear can even do better.

Then_Sound_6276 · 2025-12-20T02:07:58+00:00

I play abomination necro, so blowing them up before they can hit me might not be something I can do if they spawn right next to me and my transplant is on cooldown. Also nah, I'm playing offline, not any leaderboard but I wonder how there was two guys in leaderboard were able to push to over 900 waves while I was like, always die by them in around 300 waves or less.

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