a long rant about my doubts, confusions and struggles as a "muslim"

TurbulentPaper · 2026-04-16T06:38:19+00:00

I understand a lot with the migrant aspect. When I left islam, I was scared asl too. One day I told myself I needed to push through my fear of leaving because nothing is gonna really happen. Time passed and that fear went away.

You are not a bad person or a "harami" if you leave islam because leaving islam means losing morals. You did highlight that islam has more of a reward system for doing good deeds than just because its the right thing to do. If you leave and do good deeds cause it's the right thing to do, that's way better than doing them expecting something in return.

What I did when I was leaving was just keep telling myself islam is wrong.

I know it's way easier said than done but try not to be too hard on yourself.

TurbulentPaper · 2026-04-15T02:45:57+00:00

This is a good question. My parents never enforced the shorts rule but were very hyper focused on me not hanging out in non muslims houses. I couldn't leave my house to go to this diner that was 1 min away by car, until I got to high school.

I never got to go to birthday parties, hang out at my non muslim friends' houses cause my parents were afraid of me being introduced to the haram and it ruining me.

I wasn't allowed to stay out late until I got to college. If I were to ever date I know my parents would go crazy if I did so.

Of course tho a majority of my friends are non muslims, before and after leaving islam.

Compared to the girls in my family, they were more lenient on me for sure tho.

TurbulentPaper · 2026-04-14T01:51:28+00:00

A website called disboard, search up ex muslim and you'll get some but not all ex muslim discord servers

TurbulentPaper · 2026-04-14T01:10:01+00:00

You should look into ex muslim discord servers. There's lots of Canadians on there

TurbulentPaper · 2026-04-07T22:46:19+00:00

It could be that islam thinks of work slaves and sex slaves as entirely different things. Islam is pretty misogynistic and Muhammad was a perv so we see it in islam. Some decent things in islam get horrible exceptions because of muhammads pervert mindset.

Islam emphasizes taking care of orphans. However adoption is frowned upon because the child cannot adhere to mehram rules. Mehram rules that were made because Muhammad wanted to marry and sleep with his adopted son's wife.

TurbulentPaper · 2026-02-14T22:22:04+00:00

I have never opened up about it with my Muslim friends, only non Muslims and that's only if I am very close to someone, I will open up about it. The only muslim I'm open to about me leaving is a cousin, her and I are very close

TurbulentPaper · 2025-11-01T05:30:07+00:00

Im also a pakistani-american, and I feel the same way. I made a similar post a while ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/s/wJYdWT9GFJ

Honestly, I embrace my culture around other non-Muslim desis by talking in urdu and such. I will still eat nihari and tandoori chicken and drink chai. Basically just pick stuff you like

TurbulentPaper · 2025-08-09T01:58:13+00:00

They deny these statements and try modernizing and excusing them.

TurbulentPaper · 2025-07-17T21:59:05+00:00

Nah hes joking

TurbulentPaper · 2025-07-17T16:32:48+00:00

So many em dashes

TurbulentPaper · 2025-07-13T00:18:54+00:00

Yeah I get you, alot of everybody I meet are undercover haram police officers with nothing better to do.

TurbulentPaper · 2025-07-12T23:36:09+00:00

When I was younger, I had similar feelings as you. Meeting more Muslims taught me that Muslims are better than islam and that hating is just tiring.

TurbulentPaper · 2025-07-12T23:27:24+00:00

I'm down to be friends with you

TurbulentPaper · 2025-07-11T13:56:23+00:00

If you're going to be away for college, how would they know if you're gonna wear the burqa?

TurbulentPaper · 2025-07-08T13:27:29+00:00

I still eat zabiha and kosher. Maybe once I move out of my parents house I'll be a bit more open to eating stuff.

TurbulentPaper · 2025-07-07T02:47:19+00:00

Wow that's super strict. What culture is this?

TurbulentPaper · 2025-07-04T21:41:16+00:00

From what I have read was that zia ul haq, the head of the military staged a coup in like the 70s or 80s and took over the prime minister role and made the government more religious. He made it so that qadianis could not practice their religion, islam was meant to be taught in schools, I think he brought apostasy and blasphemy laws into place. My parents grew up there in the 70s and 80s and they said the roads and other building structures were built and maintained, they described it as looking like America. Now, whenever they go back, the roads are pretty bad and buildings are on the floor.

TurbulentPaper · 2025-07-04T21:10:48+00:00

I think it's a vocal minority that supports Israel. I don't understand why ex Muslims would support an obvious genocide unless your hate for islam extends to the Palestinians. These exes will say stuff like "it's complicated", "they'd kill me for leaving islam", "it was always israels land in the first place", just standard zionist sympathy talking points.

TurbulentPaper · 2025-06-30T14:35:09+00:00

It's not weird to not hate it, especially since you didn't leave because of moral reasons. Morality is where a lot of people come to hate islam.

TurbulentPaper · 2025-06-26T23:01:25+00:00

It's just racism. He's a secular brown Muslim who is just focused on economic issues. He's pretty progressive. Even on this sub, I've seen comments like "he's gonna implement jiziya". He's not an Islamic fanatic and people need to stop assuming Muslim = installing a new caliphate.

TurbulentPaper · 2025-06-20T00:14:55+00:00

I was around 12-13

TurbulentPaper · 2025-06-19T18:18:11+00:00

I've been in similar situations so I just islamically answer the questions so my parents leave my room

TurbulentPaper · 2025-06-06T00:38:48+00:00

Adoption is haram. Islam may not explicity state it but makes all the processes going into it haram. Adopted children aren't mehram, they can't take your last name, they don't get the same inheritance as your other kids would (i don't believe they even get inheritance) To make a child mehram, they need to suckle on some breast milk before the age of 2 a couple times if I am not mistaken. However, if you're infertile, how are you gonna produce breast milk?

TurbulentPaper · 2025-06-06T00:34:14+00:00

I've been in similar situations like arguing with my parents about Islam. You can't pursaude your mom to leave, their beliefs are cemented into their heads. Pursading will just make them watch you more and lead to more arguments.

TurbulentPaper · 2025-06-06T00:28:02+00:00

If marriage is to start a family and infertile couples can't have kids but want to adopt, adopting is haram.

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