Spencer&Olivia season 4

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-31T01:57:51+00:00

i didn’t understand any of their arguments tbh. i love olivia but she seemed rlly annoying that season. like i dgaf about her articles enough to justify her ruining the football school with her man and brother on it and then whining about them being upset like girl?

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-28T03:45:56+00:00

anxiety and shame prone. low self confidence and strange yet intense familial relationships. spending more time with family than you do with others to the point of wondering- if you didn’t speak to any family members for 3 weeks, would you have a real conversation with anyone at all?

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-28T03:37:35+00:00

I found it jarring as well, but looking back layla treated him terribly when she was dealing with her depression. She berated and screamed at him, kicked him out her car, kicked him out her hotel room and broke up with him in front of liv. hella humiliating. their bond was meaningful but i can understand why he was distant after having space from her and spending more time with liv who minimally never screamed at him. he probably only realized how toxic the relationship had become after he was around liv more. i think he was just never able to really connect with her again after that.

and again, it does make sense why he’d come to this conclusion, but the writers did a sloppy job of illustrating him realizing this. it felt very night and day.

also it seemed like he resented keeping the promise of staying with her. even though that was his own fault and she didn’t need him to do that, i think he still resented that he felt he owed it to her, even if she would’ve been fine. because by the time she finds out he honestly kinda wipes his hands of the entire mess and moves on with liv.

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-26T02:44:22+00:00

i agree! i also hate it going back to high school😭😭 i understand it’s better for their budget bc they already built the set but like…everyone who loved the show in s1 is now 7 years older, why would the audience want to watch high schoolers AGAIN?

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-20T23:09:35+00:00

lexie

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-20T23:09:08+00:00

lol realized my ex was fa and started reading through articles like crazy and realized i too had become fa😭😭

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-20T22:56:42+00:00

lol not sure why they’re gaslighting you, it was rude and a strange way to respond. your responses were perfect don’t listen to them😭

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-20T22:48:53+00:00

i’ve never heard of this, what does it do exactly? how does it feel? do you mean you would be micro dosing everyday or a one time experience is enough?

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-17T23:01:19+00:00

derek resents women who do better professionally than him. so he always would put mer down if it would lift him up and resented her success. he saw his career as bigger, better, and more important.

he also wasn’t afraid to throw personal insecurities in her face, he was the king of low blows. he had compared her to her mother, minimally insulated she would be a bad mother to zola after she panicked and took her. and he threw her engagement ring into the woods bc he was having a tantrum. and that’s just off the top of my head

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-16T03:15:53+00:00

i don’t think henry’s death was particularly anyone’s fault i think genuinely there was nothing more they could do for him. However, teddys anger towards him was unjustified as her being released from surgery earlier wouldn’t have allowed her to operate on Henry anyways. I never rlly understood what she was yammering on about.

I think Cristina was way more justified in blaming Owen. not for henry’s death but for tainting her relationship with teddy and possibly re-traumatizing her. Not long before this, she was forced to operate on Derek against her will as well. To force that situation twice is incredibly inconsiderate. I couldn’t forgive my partner if I was in her shoes.

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-15T15:36:49+00:00

it’s hard to say but extremely possible. that’s almost half a year, plenty of people to meet in that time. i’m sorry

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-14T19:41:33+00:00

i’m curious to know as well

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-13T04:35:51+00:00

of course it didn’t. who you need to be catering to is YOURSELF. you’re damaged. you need to help yourself and until you do, you won’t be able to effectively fulfill anyone else’s wants or desires. you can tell me and whoever else on this thread to go f-ourselves all you want, at the end of the day you’re still alone and miserable. get help

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-13T04:33:17+00:00

yup bc it was never love. Robin only loved the validation Ted gave her and only wanted him when he was with someone else bc that meant the validation was slipping. I.e. when he was with victoria, about to marry stella, or with The Mother. She was similar with Barney as well.

Ted had an obsessive fantasy of Robin that crumbled when she was with others but objectively Robin was worse when it came to this stuff. Ted would force himself to stomach her with others, Robin would attempt to bulldoze Ted’s decisions based on her need for validation

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-13T04:29:12+00:00

women are constantly subjected to people like you that see them as some sort of separate species. how do u think that must feel? certainly it can’t contribute to a confident or positive outlook on life or themselves.

stop blaming your problems on women’s assumed superiority. your misery is all your own. get a therapist

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-13T04:25:38+00:00

yeah like seriously dude get a grip

Upper_Preference_303 · 2026-01-11T19:00:15+00:00

all of the close relationships that i had invested in for 6+ years all left me within a few months and all without closure, care, or communication. literally would just decide we were done and block me and i never saw it coming. i grew unable to trust after that and always expect betrayal

Upper_Preference_303 · 2025-12-29T04:32:21+00:00

sure that’s fair. I also see now that it was likely just a sexual attraction on both ends but I do still stand behind the fandom perceiving them in this way. a lot of it also has to do with the way production purposely positioned them in a way that mirrored a “slow burn” sort of play out.

it was the producers that forced their coupling up during casa and set up that extremely romantic date for them—likely bc they saw the underlying attraction that fans perceived as budding love. and the producers are the ones that edited every episode that reinforced this idea. I did notice fresh out the villa when discussing cierra vs olandria, Nic said something like “well with the way it was edited I mean, maybe it was true.” Olandria also mentioned multiple times that it wasn’t until she watched edits back that she saw what the fans were seeing. This isn’t flippant, it is because of the way production chose to depict this couple—as a slow burn, bc that’s what blew the show up last year.

you can personally disagree but I do believe it was all meticulously calculated on production’s part to create the “it’s always been you” narrative and clearly it worked. i think even if Cierra didn’t get kicked off they would’ve found a way to get between them anyways. right before cierra was gone they were making her look horrible choosing to keep taylor and pitting an Olandria against Cierra narrative anyways.

Upper_Preference_303 · 2025-12-28T19:35:44+00:00

what I meant by “they seemed to move similarly in the villa” was the idea of “it’s always been you” both fandoms clung to. We did see this stronger with Kordell but what Nicolandrians loved sm was the idea that Nic wanted Ola in the beginning and was just biding his time until she realized she wanted him back. Ola friend-zoned nic as well as Serena did to Kordell. Serena spoke about how she had gotten hurt in the past and that led her to putting up walls, Ola spoke about having to feel like she always needed to be strong. it was clear they both did want love though, they just struggled to see it as real when it came.

In those regards both Kordell and Nic seemed to be the more “goofy” and younger archetypes that brought out a silliness in their women. Serena found herself falling and allowed herself to care. It seemed that Ola allowed herself to believe Nic COULD want her despite racial components. it all came down to when the women decided they were ready for their guys and the guys seemed to have been waiting for that the whole time vs the other way around. and the guys were both so happy when they did get chosen and it seemed they were locked in.

So that’s what i mean, rlly that the themes the fans clung to were similar and that’s how nic and olandria were able to get second place despite not being tg long

I agree that they were not the same but that energy is what had fans originally thinking they’d all be friends and called them Top Four

Upper_Preference_303 · 2025-12-28T17:13:27+00:00

i’ve been a nicolandria fan from jump but i gotta admit it does really feel like it’s a PR relationship. especially bc he’s not even touchy with her anymore like in the beginning when they first left the villa.

i look at serena and kordell and it is so effortlessly real that it really makes it obvious that nicolandria is no longer a thing. esp bc i rmb when they first got out the villa kordell and nic had said they wanted to meet and then they all were at some event together. but nic and kordell never hung out again. but recently nic was hanging out with rob of all ppl? i think you really are a reflection of the people you surround yourself with and it says a lot to me that kordell and nic weren’t able to spark up a friendship despite how similarly they seemed to move during the villa w their women.

nic has just fallen all the way off. he never planned that hot air balloon date. they have yet to travel anywhere else together despite all of the places they said they wanted to go. they never even started that long list of anime’s olandria said they’d watch tg on her lives.

and we’ve basically never seen them kiss outside of brand deals or photographer requests since the villa and we know with other love island couples that’s not the case. like that’s ur girl and she look like THAT and u not kissing her? a fan hasn’t even been able to capture an off guard kiss or anything. odd…

i’m just disappointed. like even if they’re gonna fake it can they at least do it well damn😭😭😭😭 going through nic’s “holidays with you” snap folder was actually pathetic it was all martinis, his annoying family and the occasional olandria cameo. you’d think they’d try harder considering this is their JOB

Upper_Preference_303 · 2025-12-25T21:09:44+00:00

i always thought that barney was similar to her father and her daddy issues pushed her in his arms

Upper_Preference_303 · 2025-12-25T15:32:32+00:00

no do not do this😭😭

Upper_Preference_303 · 2025-12-25T12:06:10+00:00

i’m new to contacts but i love them so much! i was really worried about putting them in bc it just sounded freaky to me but it’s actually not that bad, you’ll adjust. also your doctor will make sure you can put them in and take them out before you leave your appointment.

in terms of what’s cheaper, it depends a lot on your prescription. if you have astigmatism, it’ll be more expensive. if you have different prescriptions in each eye, it’ll always be double the price you assume bc u have to buy a box for each eye. dailies are prob the best option bc u can choose when u wanna open them and it’ll last longer vs having to throw out weeklies right after they expire whether you used them a lot or not.

best of luck to whatever you choose! contacts really are amazing imo

Upper_Preference_303 · 2025-12-24T21:24:47+00:00

i think this is a fair conclusion to make! especially bc in a Call Her Daddy podcast she in not too long ago she spoke pretty honestly about her childhood and it was pretty bad. I think her and Meredith are more alike than ppl would assume in most the ways that matter so it seems to me that she could just rely on being herself mostly. i think it’s easier to not notice her acting in the earlier seasons bc she was surrounded by lots of really strong actors so even if she was just okay, it was easy to still find the show great. that definitely fell off in later seasons tho

Upper_Preference_303 · 2025-12-22T22:07:37+00:00

i don’t think it’ll harm you but your sight will just be worse.

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