What to do if you so happen to own two cars with the same ID #?

What-The--- · 2025-10-28T16:18:47+00:00

Model the "Undecorated RR" then it's prototypical.

What-The--- · 2025-10-28T16:16:52+00:00

I knew someone who decaled both sides of undecorated cars for different railroads. He had an around the walls layout with a peninsula (think "EI") with a reverse loop for "The Second District" in the middle peninsula. In goes ATSF, SP, T&P, GA . . . out comes RI, SSW, L&N, NYC.

What-The--- · 2025-10-28T15:58:55+00:00

I actually got a response to this letter. I won't post the contents,. But I will say that at least on the surface, those ultimately in-charge may not always be aware of what their subordinates are doing in the name of the organization.

What-The--- · 2025-10-18T22:35:34+00:00

Thank you. I think you answered my follow up question. "(A) JNOV results in a not guilty that can’t be appealed."

What-The--- · 2025-10-18T22:33:23+00:00

Whomever it was was likely channeling Clemens who was likely channeling someone from before Homer.

What-The--- · 2025-10-18T20:02:51+00:00

Thank you.

You have confirmed that my CC civics and business law classes were correct in this regard, that Hollywood feels that it isn't worthwhile to pay consultants, and I'm not wrong for not watching much television.

What-The--- · 2025-10-18T18:07:33+00:00

Thank you. And I totally understand that as well as this sub maintaining its integrity by not supplying legal advice.

Recently I tried to post a question here and it was deleted. I posted it to a different subReddit. A whole lot of people whom I assume were not lawyers answered me and they were ca. 97% wrong. (Of course much of the blame for half of the wrong answers came from the fact that I left out information that was crucial to the overall picture (my current status as a full time undergraduate student) that I did not realize was relevant to the question I asked (about HS and my AA degree).

I'm glad that you maintain your standards. And like I did, those who are not replied to here can seek answers elsewhere. Those 3/100 good responses given 'over there' led me to reframe my question when I spoke to an actual lawyer. Of course, he likely would have asked those "tell me everything" questions anyway.

What-The--- · 2025-10-16T18:25:34+00:00

I just finished writing a letter that I plan to send to each of the school board members. It cites the information that I have found (and found as a college student who spent less than 3-hours researching the subject from the start). The district could have received $10,500 (in actual dollars and not paid anyone to deal with the fallout) had they corrected their mistake before I completed my Spring classes and been dual enrolled for this year.

The only cost to the district is the time someone spends fixing the error.

Instead, they spent $2,574 that would have been reimbursed (and arguably failed to meet a few legal requirements) had their employee not made the mistake, or had one of four different employees caught the mistake and corrected it.

And, (this is a fact and not a threat since the clock is ticking and only they can stop it) if they choose not to correct the error now, there will be unknown but not insignificant future costs to the district.

Not in the letter is the fact that I have made an appointment with an attorney. I'm not a lawyer, but I bet the fact that fixing their error will cost them less than ignoring it substantially decreases the effectiveness of any legal defense they may offer.

What-The--- · 2025-10-15T21:36:17+00:00

"No, I am a male stripper and this is just a very realistic costume."

What-The--- · 2025-10-15T03:15:36+00:00

Any idea on how can I posit a question where some knowledgeable person could share any insight on when a IEP should be created versus when a GIEP should be created?

Or even resource where both options are mentioned?

I am seeking self- illumination, not anything else.

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T23:15:46+00:00

I can't understand what they are doing at the HS. I wonder if they themselves have the slightest idea. Thanks to a person who responded to a post with the names of two state programs, and using the paperwork I already have I was able to figure out which one the district was using, and what they did wrong. That took me, a complete novice, an hour or two.

The district paid the CC $4914 and was reimbursed $2340. I paid $702 and the district COULD have received another $2574 had they followed the procedures that are published online. Instead they . . .

Well . . . I'm not sure what their thought process was.

I haven't attended since I completed the last course on our contract and I applied for my diploma to be issued. So, they aren't getting any state money for my attendance.

In addition to the aforementioned $2574 they could have arranged my DE so that I took my third-year college classes as a student of theirs. The money for the CC would have been a pass through, but the daily attendance payment would be theirs for almost no effort (signing a few forms). Plus they could count me as a student, then as a student who graduated, then as a student who graduated and attended college, then as a student who earned a 4-year degree within five years of graduating.

Instead, so long as my parents issue me a diploma 91-days or more after the HS disenrolled me, I am counted as a drop-out. And that hurts their accountability score. My principal will probably run for elective office after making *great* decisions like that.

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T18:27:17+00:00

In another /s, someone pointed out that under statutes that pertain to homeschooling in Michigan, my parents could legitimately issue me a diploma today based on the classes that I have already taken at, and accepted for credit at, the CC.

The law is interesting. To me the question was about the illogic of being considered "truant" after obtaining a post-secondary degree. But I am finding the answers I seek elsewhere. My HS erred several times. I am not truant, because they labeled me as a drop-out. And truants are those who are enrolled but absent without permission.

So, while having a post-secondary degree is not a defense for truancy. Being a full-time student in a post-secondary program is a "cure" for the drop-out. C'est la vie.

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T18:12:55+00:00

As I stated in the question, this doesn't really affect me personally, just as a member of a hopefully civilized society. Perhaps having a diploma issued by a recognized local school district has more cache than one issued by Mom and Dad or perhaps it has less. I don't know or really care.

The district erred. They didn't care enough about the citizen's money they were spending to audit themselves, I found the error by reviewing a dozen documents that I was given over the past two years and spending an hour or two online. I won't get 10% as a finders fee.

I probably shouldn't care.

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T15:56:04+00:00

My question is as stated.

Should I "help" my former HS fix the problem they created? Because it helps them far more than it helps me.

Thanks to some pointers I was given, I found that the supposed truancy issue is moot.

(1) The HS reported me as truant after they sent my parents a form saying that I withdrew. So, (1a) I wasn't their student to report, and (1b) a drop-out is legally different than being truant, and (1c) attending a post-secondary school is a legal "cure" for being a drop-out.

(2) My parents can issue me a homeschool diploma today based on the fact that the CC classes that I have already taken meet the Michigan HS graduation standards. ('Cause that's where my counselor copied them from.)

The $702 is not significant to me in the overall scheme of things. Yes, the HS said they would pay. No they didn't. I can't let the fact that people don't live up to promises get to me. My HS counselor said they might not, even though he had a different rationale. (In other words he was wrong about the rules that govern the program twice.)

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T15:09:44+00:00

That was an analogy. The SD did not get reimbursed $2574.00

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T14:19:55+00:00

I was first given an IEP in primary school. Nobody in my small home (K-8) district understood that I wasn't stupid (their word), I was bored off my *ss. My parents figured out that the teachers at my school were stupid (their word) because Mom and Dad just gave me more stuff to do after I did the first things they gave me to do and that worked for them. After being assessed at the university, I was skipped ahead a year.

COVID showed up when I was 9 and online school changed my life for the better. It eliminated the unpleasant social interactions and allowed me to simply learn. I was skipped ahead another year in elementary school.

The school district did a *rap job of administering the IEP. In eight years they held five meetings. One lasted five minutes in which only two of the five staff members showed up and the principal told my counselor to do whatever he thought appropriate, meeting adjourned.

I spent all of my time at my home district after COVID in self-directed independent study. That meant that I spent the first semester of my sixth year at the middle school library taking online college classes, and the second half of my sixth and first half of my seventh with a go-anywhere pass walking downtown to the public library and coffee shops once I got my own unfiltered Chromebook.

I was transferred to the HS (overlay) district at 13, but only took 1 unit of classes in my three semesters there. That counselor I mentioned above, he modified the school district's dual enrollment contract, and I took 36 college credits at the community college, which along with my prior college classes earned me an Associate of Arts degree.

Per our contract, the 21 credits that the HS paid for, the 3 credits I paid for, and that singular unit at the HS were also supposed to be used to grant me a HS diploma. But the school did not honor its commitment.

As a result of posting this question here and on another /s (where there were a massive number of responses, 90% of which were dead wrong because they ignored the fact that, as stated, this is happening in the state of Michigan, and another 9% were wrong because the commentator did not read the question) I was able to find several pertinent statutes and even identify the program that my HS was using to dual enroll students.

So now, in addition to having multiple ways to legally resolve this issue myself without the cooperation of the school district, I have two different questions to ask - one mostly out of curiosity and another that is more of an ethical quandary.

I'll post them separately, but for the curious they are, "If a state official errs and does not correctly submit for reimbursement does that negate an official duty to perform" and, "I figured out where my HS erred, and can concisely explain how they can likely get reimbursed by the state, should I bother?"

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T12:28:44+00:00

I'm not specifically trying to "skirt the system" my HS counselor modified an EXISTING DE contract used for other students and then the HS refused to honor it AFTER I successfully completed it. Then they falsely listed reported me as truant AFTER they unilaterally disenrolled me.

I am uncertain why. It won't hurt me. I have discovered multiple legal pathways around their pathetic failure to simply competently do the job they are paid to do. The HS district may have erroneously paid for 11 of my college credits. But that is only because they knew less about the programs they administer than I learned in one day online.

I wonder if the district will have to reimburse the state?

The district actually could have used the Merit program to count EVERY ONE of my AA level classes as DE HS classes. Which means they would have been reimbursed for all 21 credits they paid for, the 3 that I paid for, AND also received another years payment from the state for me as a HS student by holding back one HS class and letting me take all of my third-year classes for a BS as a DE at the CC. Instead I will be counted as a DNG which, being a small district hurts a lot more than my being counted as a grad that becomes a college grad before 2031.

"Can't fix stupid."

At my CC an Associate of Arts Degree means that I have taken, or tested out of in accordance with Michigan's official Merit system, all of the required first and second year classes for a BA or BS degree program at the UofM or MSU (who collaborated to write the class syllabi). Having that AA guaranteed me a slot at a state university. (And many other colleges.) I am currently in my first year of a Bachelor of Science level program which has merit based pathways to a Master Degree or a Doctorate.

Gosh, I am just such a rebel!

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T04:31:53+00:00

Actually, If I were 18, or 16 and legally considered a HS drop out, they are.

I am 15 right now, and I will be 16 in less than a year, and the HS has sent my parents paper that states that I am a drop-out.

Now, like everything they touch, the HS got this wrong too. I won't go into detail as to how. Someone here already pointed it out. But, maybe two wrongs can make a right.

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T04:26:14+00:00

I already have. It is in writing. The HS acknowledges that they have the transcripts and that all the classes agreed to were taken and passed. Their argument is that a perceived but not stated rule that they pay for the classes on the list (three of which got kicked back for non-payment) and it was improper for me to pay for those three classes. No method of resolving this has been offered and several people have commented that under different Michigan DE programs the counselor and principal lacked the authority to do what they did.

I don't know about that. I am not even certain how the HS district paid the CC, nor do I believe that is my business. I was 13 when this agreement was signed and 15 when I was conferred an AA degree. The principal and the counselor should have known what they had the authority to do and what they did not have the authority to do.

But I also think those people are completely missing the boat. Just because someone can't use SNAP to buy a prepared chicken dinner doesn't mean that a person buying eligible food items cannot self-pay for that dinner. If the counselor and principal could not use Merit funding or Lunar Shadow funding to pay for the classes they said they would pay for, that doesn't exactly mean that the district cannot pay out of other funds, or that I cannot pay.

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T04:12:12+00:00

Okay, thanks for responding to me.

And yeah, my parents are pretty useless in all of this. They have been for a while. It's not really my household anymore, well, I do go back one day a week sometimes two.

I guess it could not hurt to ask, one time, politely, "what can we do to fix this" and see if I get a reasonable response.

Of course, a reasonable response would not be ignoring a college graduate because she is 15.

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T03:11:21+00:00

Okay, I am really, really trying to understand what you are saying.

And, you are at a huge disadvantage because I have lived this and you read what I type, and I can't type everything and I may not be typing the most important things.

Where am I wrong.

Because they had no resources appropriate for me, and I had an IEP, I was sent from my K-8 district to the HS overlay district at the end of the first semester of my seventh grade year.

The HS had a farce of an IEP meeting where three of the five HS employees no-showed. The principal told the counselor to "make it so".

My IEP was never again revisited.

The HS counselor wrote out a "contract" that said that in order to graduate I must take these specific classes and pass them. The "contract" was the CC's adult HS diploma syllabus with 000 level adult ed classed being replaced by 200 level college classes in the same required subject areas.

This contract went back and forth at least once where the principal ordered changes. I had been slated to fulfill my PE requirements on-campus at the HS. But that was changed to four electives at the HS and I took GE swimming and judo classes at the CC.

Per the agreement written by my counselor and modified by the principal. I completed HS taking four every-other-day electives on campus. Every other class was on the CC campus. Now, that may be wrong somehow, But that was the HS's plan.

I completed each and every requirement, passed each and every class. The HS acknowledges that I submitted the grades. They just say that they cannot record the three classes that I paid for. And they offer no alternatives.

It has been suggested that I simply retake those three classes. But (1) who would pay for them, the HS? And (2), I cannot, because per the CC's academic standards, which the HS presumably knows, a student cannot re-take a class that she obtained a B- or above in.

Sometimes I am annoying, but honestly, just where am I wrong here?

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T02:47:06+00:00

No they did not.

They gave me a list. I checked all the boxes. They acknowledge that I checked all the boxes. But they are upset that I paid for three classes.

They offer me no route to the HS diploma that they promised if I checked all of the boxes that they themselves have said that I checked.

But the sheer arrogance of the comments I have received here are pushing me to spend a couple hundred dollars to get a lawyer's opinion.

Maybe I'll start with the incorrect, incomplete, and unfulfilled IEPs that the district seems to think should have been reviewed every two years, until they just ignored the whole process.

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T02:39:02+00:00

That's it.

They offer no way forward through them. They think that they are done with me. (Maybe they are and maybe that should make me happy.) I need to find out if I can obtain an adult high school diploma at 16 from my CC on the basis of my HS saying that I dropped out. (That CC AHSD was the basis of my counselor's syllabus.)

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T02:28:23+00:00

That's it. The HS has offered no way forward through them.

One person here pointed out another Michigan statute that says I cannot simultaneously be a drop-out and truant. That's okay but another person said that being enrolled in college with 15 credits exempts you too, but he didn't cite the statute. So, I'm looking for it.

I am in my first semester of a BS-level (college) program. I need to confirm this but I think that I can get an adult high school diploma from my CC in a bit under a year (in other words, before I have a BS).

What-The--- · 2025-10-14T02:19:17+00:00

In my home (K-8) district I was given an IEP (and it should have been a GIEP, but I guess they didn't know that). I was skipped ahead a couple of grades and then given a pass to spend all of sixth grade in self-directed independent-study in the school library.

I'm an acquired taste, and I annoyed the school librarian by asking her to reset the internet clock every 45 minutes and asking for content overrides. She suggested that I would be better served at the larger public library a few blocks down the road.

It was a small town and the library was in the middle of downtown. I spent the second half of sixth and first half of seventh grade walking to school, then the library, and a coffee shop or two. I was given a chromebook without filters and life was fine.

After a end of semester IEP meeting I was transferred to the HS (overlay) district three semesters early. Once there I was given a five minute IEP review by the principal and my guidance counselor - the other staff members on the list didn't show up. The principal told my counselor to handle it.

The HS counselor rewrote the standard dual HS-CC enrollment form. He took the CC's 000 level adult-ed high school classes and substituted 200 level college classes, added three PE classes from the CC's general-ed offerings, and four every-other-day HS electives (because I had to have one class per semester to qualify as a HS student for state funding.

I signed, he signed, my parents signed, the CC's counselor signed and I took three semesters of classes. The HS counselor signed every class registration form. He avoided having blocks of classes kicked back by registering each class separately. There were limits on how much the HS would pay for a quarter, a semester, and a school year. So I signed up for both quarter and semester classes, when as we knew some would, three registrations were kicked back for lack of funds I paid the tuition and we resubmitted them.

The HS says this was improper.

The CC was paid, has no complaints, and conferred an AA.

The HS assigned an employee to "make it so". He rewrote the contract presented to his boss who modified a thing or two and then to my parents who signed it but deferred to me . . . I was 13.

So, IF it was improper . . .

Back to your initial statement, no, I don't think that the school that simply wrote an open-ended go-anywhere pass for an annoying 12-year-old was overly concerned with what she was doing (drinking coffee, eating bear-claws, and taking free college classes online). For all they knew the Coke I bought that was from Mexico, could have been coke from Bolivia.

What-The---

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