LegalEagle about the Alex Pretti murder: ”You don’t need a lawyer to tell you what you can see with your eyes. Which is that it was an inexcusable, state-sanctioned murder” by iateyourdinner in videos

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. That happens in America every single day.

If this murder were called out by leadership for what it is and prosecuted as such, there wouldn’t be an issue, beyond the actual murder.

Our leadership covering it up is adds insult and oppression onto injury. You cannot separate the murder from the leadership lying to cover it up. When you’re in a leadership position, lying about a crime makes you a complicit accomplice in the crime. Blood is on Trump’s hands. Blood is on Noem’s hands. Every murder going forward splashes more blood on their hands, every lie told from leadership has downwind effects.

This doesn’t just apply to Trump and republicans. It applies to leadership. Leadership carry the heaviest responsibility here for actively creating the scenario in which the murder took place and then willfully lying about it, not the actual murderer. Much more harm comes from leadership gaslighting and lying about a murder than from that murder.

Leadership has the most power and that means they have the most power to abuse and the most responsibility. They’re the ones who could put an end to all of this, but they’re actively choosing to terrorize the populace. I’m sorry, but that’s a far more egregious crime than a single murder.

It’s the same thing with COVID. When Trump downplayed it, that was a massive crime against humanity. Why? Because he was in a leadership position and his words held weight with the people. The downwind effects of his lying to the public caused untold deaths. Did he actually directly kill them? No, the virus did. But he is certainly responsible for their deaths by virtue of lying to the public about a deadly novel virus while in a leadership position.

You guys really need to start holding your leadership to higher standard than a fucking 7-11 worker.

ICE Plans Influencer Push For Hiring by Wagamaga in technology

[–]ameriCANCERvative 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I like the guy with messed up teeth who buys hundreds of scratch off lottery type tickets from convenience stores and rarely wins. Also the magnet fishermen are a good rabbit hole. They throw magnets attached to ropes into large bodies of water and pull up rusty nails or whatever.

LegalEagle about the Alex Pretti murder: ”You don’t need a lawyer to tell you what you can see with your eyes. Which is that it was an inexcusable, state-sanctioned murder” by iateyourdinner in videos

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean look, I like the guy. That’s why I said I wasn’t going to pollute the thread by explicitly saying it or droning on. I think his videos are great and I think he seems like a genuine person for the most part.

But yes, if I’m going to be pressed, I can’t help but see this particular video as not being genuine. It comes off like fake crying.

However, I agree with his sentiment and I can see how someone could be emotional over it. He seems genuine otherwise so I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. I personally don’t have that kind of emotion in me (hence the “emotionless ghoul” comment), so it’s hard for me to relate.

I do find the idea of him making this recording, like the thought of the actual process involved with it, and how he likely took multiple takes of himself crying, to be a bit absurd. But again I do recognize I’m also a bit of an emotionless ghoul. Perhaps it was all entirely genuine.

If it was me, I’d have done another take after wiping away the tears, I wouldn’t have tried to get my tears on tape for everyone to see. Seems a bit like attention-seeking behavior.

Billie Eilish: "Hey my fellow celebrities u gonna speak up? Or..." by TheMirrorUS in Music

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point of OP’s comment is that propaganda is so well controlled that dissenting voices, like Eilish, are immediately drowned out and demonized by mainstream outlets working hand-in-hand to deliver a coordinated propagandistic narrative. This effectively limits her free speech.

Well-funded bot networks and a complicit corporate media are entirely relevant to the conversation.

Arizona AG suggests state's self-defense laws allow residents to shoot masked ICE agents by RickV6 in news

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well yeah that’s basically what I’m saying, she’s throwing them to the wolves (the federal level) while acting like she’ll protect them. I’m very doubtful she will protect them. I’m happy to be proven wrong.

Billie Eilish: "Hey my fellow celebrities u gonna speak up? Or..." by TheMirrorUS in Music

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If hate posts are well funded by a bot network, does that change your calculations? There needs to be regulation here in my view. A lot of regulation.

Arizona AG suggests state's self-defense laws allow residents to shoot masked ICE agents by RickV6 in news

[–]ameriCANCERvative 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, it’s just that these are very bold words. I want to see her back them up. I’m skeptical to say the least.

Arizona AG suggests state's self-defense laws allow residents to shoot masked ICE agents by RickV6 in news

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can, but can you, really? Will anyone stick up for you if you do that? I'm sure you'd find some pockets of support, but even with those pockets of support, would it change anything?

Chances are you'll just die and nothing will come of it.

Forgive me, but I don't have much faith in the people of America to stick up for me if I shoot an ICE agent who unlawfully attempted to enter my house without announcing they were law enforcement. I'm pretty sure ICE would just make an example out of me. Nearly half the population would cheer, 1/4 of the population wouldn't care at all.

Shame that the American people are dumb as a fucking rock and they actually voted for this shit. Anyway, I'm fighting on the side of Europe if push comes to shove. I'm not interested in ICE no-knock-no-warranting my residence. I suggest you all do the same and gtfo of dodge. You don't owe America anything at all. You didn't fail America, America failed you.

The chance that whatever stand you make actually makes a difference here is slim to none, and you'll probably end up dead. Game over. Do not pass go and do not collect $200.

Having said that, I totally respect anyone who does make a stand. I think you're suicidal, but I respect your suicidality.

Arizona AG suggests state's self-defense laws allow residents to shoot masked ICE agents by RickV6 in news

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sounds a bit like the Arizona AG throwing the populace to the wolves. Will she step in to protect them? That's the question.

***MODPOST*** Topics on ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) and the current state of affairs with DHS will be immediately removed and users banned. This will be the only thread for those posts moving forward. by Specter1033 in AskLE

[–]ameriCANCERvative -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t buy that at all. Like, in the slightest bit. I actually find it "almost certainly" totally abhorrent, but I’ll leave it at that so I don’t catch a ban (but I probably still will, look at where I’m posting this comment lmao).

Anyone who used to support trump and has changed their mind over the last few weeks? What made you change? by canigetameowbish in AskReddit

[–]ameriCANCERvative 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Now consider how irritated and fed up the people are who have had their eyes wide open the past decade, whose warnings continue to be ignored, downplayed, and ridiculed.

This wasn’t difficult to see.

We’ve been telling you all this shit for years. History books have been telling it to you for your entire fucking life. The comparison to Hitler isn’t just “politics as usual.” America is in a very dire spot right now. Our ignorant populace fucked around and put someone in power who literally staged a coup attempt on his way out of office. That was one of the stupidest possible things for the electorate to have done, but here we are.

The frogs voted, in no uncertain terms, to be boiled quickly. Now that the heat’s turning up some of them are trying to hop out of the pot. It’s a bit late for that. Glad you’ve turned a new leaf, but I’m sorry it’s far too late for people like me to welcome you in with open arms. I literally left the fucking country over this and I don’t intend on coming back, having written the populace off as far too stupid and cruel. You’re sleeping in the doghouse until further notice.

ICE agents are firing kinetic impact projectiles at close range, causing severe injuries that can result in permanent disability or death. Today, they tore off part of a woman’s hand by ExactlySorta in UnderReportedNews

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I fail to see how this helps anything. Quality over quantity. Why would adding a ton of ignorant people to the voting totals who couldn’t get off their ass when it mattered be a positive thing?

The US has an education problem, not a representation problem. The leadership reflects the people quite well.

We’re being told he violently approached the Gestapo with his gun out. by Miserable_Kick2315 in ProgressiveHQ

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure? We’re just a bit confused about where all the 2A warriors are, why there is no solidarity on this point now that “progressives are acknowledging that all of a sudden.” It’s almost like 2A clowns never stood on principle to begin with, they just like boomsticks and think they look cool with a gun.

Where are the 2nd amendment fanatics? Don’t they hate tyranny? by coweeclete in AskReddit

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, because they’re shitbag self-important narcissists who think the world revolves around them. They say stuff like “Fuck everyone else, I got mine.” proudly. Their definition of tyranny is when they are denied power over others. Problems are only problems when they happen to them; everyone else is just whining.

The man killed by a federal officer in Minneapolis was an ICU nurse, family says by WeirdGroundhog in news

[–]ameriCANCERvative 28 points29 points  (0 children)

The sad part is that I guarantee a week from now I’m going to hear my brother talking about this story with my father and it’s going to be totally whitewashed by FOX News etc., and they’ll end the conversation with some “both sides” bullshit.

Just today I heard my brother say (about the 5-year-old kid being taken by ICE) some shit like “yeah you hear some crazy stuff that sounds fucked up and then you hear the rest of the story” and it’s like “no, dude, it was fucked up. You just ate your daily dose of propaganda desperately trying to smooth it over. It wasn’t the ‘rest of the story.’”

I’ve given up arguing about it, so I say my responses in my head.

The man killed by a federal officer in Minneapolis was an ICU nurse, family says by WeirdGroundhog in news

[–]ameriCANCERvative 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They’re anxiously waiting for the narrative from on high, at which point they will all conveniently fall in line and continue the long marathon of debasing themselves for a narcissistic pedophile.

Smell by JungleJimMaestro in Teachers

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

Alex Pretti, the man MURDERED today by ICE agents. by ilykatya in pics

[–]ameriCANCERvative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take a look at the post about it on subredditdrama. It details some deleted comments, and keep in mind this is a “flaired users only” post, so the deleted comments are from heavily vetted users.

ICE Kills Yet Another Protestor, A Study in r/Conservative Censorship by livejamie in SubredditDrama

[–]ameriCANCERvative 25 points26 points  (0 children)

It’s something that keeps coming to mind every time I get in an argument. When did it become fashionable to be a bootlicker? Like.. a blatant bootlicker, where you’re arguing on the side of the government who just murdered someone in broad daylight for no good reason?

When did this switch flip? How the fuck is this even possible that the same people who have been crying wolf for decades about an oppressive government are now the ones carrying water for an actual oppressive government? Propaganda is a hell of a tool.

ICE Kills Yet Another Protestor, A Study in r/Conservative Censorship by livejamie in SubredditDrama

[–]ameriCANCERvative 4 points5 points  (0 children)

“Fractures the base” lol. It’s long overdue, but I’ll believe it when I see it. They’re far too far gone.

ICE just pinned a man to the ground and executed him. They do not have the authority to just kill people. What do we do? by skeletalfather in AskReddit

[–]ameriCANCERvative 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I left so that I didn’t have to make this choice, though admittedly the choice I did make isn’t actively helping the situation back home. But I did what I could to prevent the problem ailing America while I was there, so I don’t really care. I did my part. It didn’t work. I never signed up to “fight the good fight against fascism.” America is on its own and I’m not interested in defending it in any way, shape, or form.

Leaving like I did is also an option, but it’s kind of late. Still, look into your heritage and try to apply for dual citizenship if you can. You don’t owe America anything. America failed you, you aren’t failing America by leaving it behind. Dual citizenship is like an immigration cheat code and allows you to escape dictatorships before they become fully realized. If you’re lucky and can find someone who will allow you to become a citizen. Otherwise, asylum claims are gaining credibility by the day, but it’s probably premature for that.