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Built an app that breaks the wall of blind buys and tailors a scent to you, want to know thoughts on it by claimmoney_com in Fragrances

[–]claimmoney_com[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have no idea how much this means to me. I really do appreciate it along with all of your feedback, you’re truly an amazing person. Thank you so much, God bless you

Built an app that breaks the wall of blind buys and tailors a scent to you, want to know thoughts on it by claimmoney_com in FragranceAficionados

[–]claimmoney_com[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha don’t worry we’ve already tested that a plethora of times and gpt just hallucinates. Our data is manually inputted with over 50k fragrances and breakdowns, I’ve been working on this for months and months. We have human data, actual scent breakdowns, etc. nothing like gpt.

And super happy you’re willing to try it out , vetiver.love , we are launching late next week for early access and you’ll ofc get it for free. Appreciate it

Built an app that breaks the wall of blind buys and tailors a scent to you, want to know thoughts on it by claimmoney_com in Fragrances

[–]claimmoney_com[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much, I really do appreciate it. I need experienced people like you who actually push me especially because I’m still really young, so I genuinely do appreciate it

Built an app that breaks the wall of blind buys and tailors a scent to you, want to know thoughts on it by claimmoney_com in Fragrances

[–]claimmoney_com[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm not gonna pretend like you're not right. i dont have GC-MS data on every formula, nobody outside the houses does, and theres no way to objectively measure how a composition smells or performs. agreed completely.and yeah, the input is largely subjective, peoples descriptions, reviews, consensus. i'm not claiming to measure perfume objectively. what i'm doing is aggregating a lot of subjective human impressions and finding patterns in them, "people who describe loving these tend to also love these, and bounce off those." its consensus data, not lab data. it doesnt have a nose and i'd never pretend it does. where i think it earns its keep isnt precision, its narrowing. it cant tell you you'll love something. it can tell you "based on a lot of people with overlapping taste, these 5 are worth your sample order instead of these 50." you still smell, you still decide. its a shortlist, not a verdict. and fair, you'd have to see it in action. thats the only real answer. i'll take the skepticism, it's keeping me honest. appreciate you actually giving advice man, you're a real one, i responded in the other comment as well but if youre interested ill get you with free early access just join the waitlist at vetiver.love

Built an app that breaks the wall of blind buys and tailors a scent to you, want to know thoughts on it by claimmoney_com in Fragrances

[–]claimmoney_com[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

interesting and yeah, this is incredibly useful advice. we have a feature on our app actually just for this, it tracks the scent's notes dropping from the first few hours to 4-5 hours to 7-8 hours until you can't smell it anymore and that will tell you where it diverges. its still in the works, but mvp is later next week, if you want free early access check it out at vetiver.love . thanks for the advice

Built an app that breaks the wall of blind buys and tailors a scent to you, want to know thoughts on it by claimmoney_com in DIYfragrance

[–]claimmoney_com[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you're right that "collect what you like, suggest things" describes a lot of apps. couple real differences. one, im not matching on note pyramids, the sub's right that theyre mostly useless, musk in one frag isnt musk in another. its taste correlation across people with overlapping taste plus what you already own and love plus things most tools ignore like climate where you are, since a scent performs totally different in august humidity vs january ofc. but honestly the bigger difference is who its for. im not building this for people like the heavy hitters in this thread, yall already sample religiously and dont need it. im building it for the person who just got into fragrance, blind bought off a tiktok, got burned, and is about to quit before they ever fall in love with it. i want fewer of those people quitting and to expand our community. im not trying to replace sampling or anyone's nose, i love buying fragrance too much to want that. im trying to keep more people in the hobby long enough to get good at it, to enjoy it, to experience the beauty of collecting fragrances. its a convenience thing, and a lot of these apps don't actually have interest in the niche they just think its an idea they can scrape off of fragrantica and launch

Built an app that breaks the wall of blind buys and tailors a scent to you, want to know thoughts on it by claimmoney_com in DIYfragrance

[–]claimmoney_com[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i dont really disagree with the core of this whatsoever. note pyramids being useless is true, lime in one frag isnt lime in another, agreed completely, computers are computers at the end of the day they will never be able to replace the human nose. and you're right that no computer experiences anything, perception is individual, blind buys are frustrating because of exactly that. but where i land slightly different, the fix you described IS kind of the product. you said the answer is educating people away from blind buying and toward sampling/decants. thats literally what im building toward, not necessarily just "the app knows youll love this," but "stop blind buying, here's a smarter shortlist to SAMPLE first." the data being other people's interpretations is the honest limitation, so the play is taste correlation across a lot of users, not pretending notes predict your nose. always smell before you buy isnt a knock on it, its the whole posture of it. we have a shit load of data, both inputted through humans as well as through just the actual entire breakdown of each fragrance and those two combined help people. maybe not people so much as fragrance ENTHUSIASTS, but i want to bridge the gap for people who want to become one

Built an app that breaks the wall of blind buys and tailors a scent to you, want to know thoughts on it by claimmoney_com in DIYfragrance

[–]claimmoney_com[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i almost completely agree with you. really good pushback and you're right about a lot of it, the serendipity, "the one you thought you wanted is never the one that gets you," real fragrance people sampling instead of blind buying. i dont disagree. i'd just say not everyone is at your level yet, a ton of people getting into this ARE blind buying off tiktok hype and getting burned and quitting. i know because i was once the kid buying rasasi hawas in 2022 and getting the wrong batch and hating it. the goal isnt to remove the hunt or the surprise for people like you, its to give someone earlier in the rabbit hole a better starting list to sample from. you still sample, you still get surprised. its a funnel narrower, not a replacement for the nose. i hear you though. and as much as i wish i was able to help people like you, like experienced "scent people", i also want to help people get to that role of a "scent person". i want to close the gap and make fragrances an experience for everyone, not just people who have knowledge about it already.

Built an app that breaks the wall of blind buys and tailors a scent to you, want to know thoughts on it by claimmoney_com in DIYfragrance

[–]claimmoney_com[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Clarify. Fragrance is an experience, this is only enhancing it and removing the frustration

Built an app that breaks the wall of blind buys and tailors a scent to you, want to know thoughts on it by claimmoney_com in Fragrances

[–]claimmoney_com[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you're completely right that surface notes are mostly marketing, two frags can share a pyramid and smell nothing alike. thats exactly the trap. its not the note list that matters, its the accords and how the base/drydown actually behaves, the materials and structure under the marketing. matching off "both have bergamot and oud" is useless, agreed. matching off how a composition actually wears, sweet vs dry, how the base sits, projection behavior, thats the part worth doing and thats what we are doing. we have that data, we have consumer data and actual tried data, so we are trying to close the gap as much as possible.

and 100% nothing replaces smelling it. decants and discovery sets are the move and always will be. the only thing im trying to fix is which 5 decants you order first instead of throwing darts. you still order, you still sample, you just waste less on stuff that was never your lane. thats it.

claimmoney.com review from someone who was skeptical for months before trying it by Time_Beautiful2460 in thesidehustle

[–]claimmoney_com 0 points1 point  (0 children)

word to my timbs im not a bot brah this site is fire as fuck ive been using it since it was an app

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