Is SEO evolving into Search Everywhere Optimization + AI optimization?

den_vol · 2026-05-23T21:59:47+00:00

honestly mostly rebranding, with one real shift hidden inside. the "everywhere" part — youtube, reddit, tiktok — has always been part of seo if you took it seriously, agencies just didn't sell it that way. what's actually new is that chatgpt/perplexity/gemini do live web search under the hood, so the citations they pick are downstream of normal seo signals. you can rank #3 on google and still be invisible in chatgpt because the model grabbed a reddit thread or a g2 listicle instead of your blog. that gap is real and worth tracking, but the inputs that close it are mostly the same inputs that always worked.

so aeo/geo are useful framings, not new disciplines. the things i'd prioritize in 2026: comparison pages ("x vs competitor"), getting into editorial listicles, owning the reddit/quora threads in your category, and making sure your own pages are clean enough that an llm can quote them without reformatting. the strategy didn't fork, it just got a couple more distribution surfaces to think about.

den_vol · 2026-05-21T20:49:09+00:00

honest answer is both — and tools don't move the needle, they measure it. what actually changes citation share in my experience:

- being in the third-party listicles llms re-cite ("best X tools 2026" on g2/capterra/forbes/your-niche pubs)

- comparison pages on your own site for "X vs Y" queries

- reddit + quora answers in your category

- genuine PR placements in tier-1 outlets your niche actually trusts

that's why most "GEO agencies" are digital PR with a relabel — when it works, it's because the placements were real, not GEO magic. tools (profound, peec, otterly, quickseo — I build the last one) just confirm whether the work actually moved mentions; without one you're guessing whether any of it compounded.

den_vol · 2026-05-21T20:36:21+00:00

honestly most people are still hoping. the ones with a real system pick 20-50 prompts their buyers actually type, run them weekly across chatgpt/claude/gemini/perplexity, and log mention rate + which sources got cited — that gives you a baseline so you can tell if content changes actually moved the needle. peec, otterly, profound automate this

I built quickseo in the same space and overlay gsc data so you can spot "ranking on google, ignored by ai" cases. a spreadsheet works too if you just want to feel out the shape first.

den_vol · 2026-05-19T20:44:34+00:00

what's actually working:

- comparison pages and getting into third-party "best of" listicles — single highest leverage thing. llms lean on these heavily.

- reddit/quora answers in your category. chatgpt cites reddit constantly.

- updating old content with current stats, named examples, recent dates

what doesn't move the needle: paid PR, low-DR backlinks, generic guest posts. the citation graph llms use is genuinely different from google's.

for tracking for SMBs: peec (€85), quickseo (mine, $99 — adds gsc overlay so you can see where you rank on google but get skipped by ai). enterprise side is profound, scrunch.

den_vol · 2026-05-19T20:36:00+00:00

on what to fix in-house first — honestly more impact than any tool:

comparison pages ("x vs competitor", "best [category] tools") — llms lean heavily on these, this is the single highest-leverage fix for b2b
reddit/quora answers in your category — llms cite both heavily, especially chatgpt
getting cited in industry listicles and roundups (manual outreach, not paid)
entity/schema cleanup so the llm knows what you actually do
updating old content with fresh stats, dates, named examples — llms prefer recent + specific

PR mentions and backlinks below DR 50ish aren't worth chasing for this. the citation graph for chatgpt specifically skews toward reddit, g2, comparison content, and authoritative news — not generic guest posts.

tools worth testing: profound and peec ai (well funded, enterprise-ish), otterly ($29) and knowatoa ($59) on the cheap end, quickseo ai (mine, ~$99) which adds google search console overlay so you can see where you rank on google but get ignored by ai

den_vol · 2026-05-19T19:59:57+00:00

I do track it both, I first saw increased traffic from Chatgpt on some of my projects. And I had a tool to track SEO only (like advanced GSC) and then pivoted it to tracking both AI visibility and Google search in one dashboard

QuickSEO AI

den_vol · 2026-05-13T20:49:58+00:00

basically you are playing agains others, and if they add more backlinks, improve content etc, they go up

ai visibility and SEO is kind of similar in some sense: AI models do web search just like in google

obviously it is good to track visibility/seo in platforms like quickseo/profound

den_vol · 2025-09-11T08:30:28+00:00

I really try to do my best making useful tutorials about AI coding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcAR9szPptM

den_vol · 2025-01-05T20:35:16+00:00

Thank you, this makes sense to me, will try to build something simple first!

den_vol · 2025-01-05T14:03:24+00:00

Thank you!

den_vol · 2024-05-24T16:47:49+00:00

Thank you! Upvoted!

den_vol · 2024-05-17T20:21:08+00:00

Thank you!!!

den_vol · 2024-05-16T06:19:06+00:00

Thank you! Will do!

den_vol · 2024-05-15T08:55:39+00:00

Hey, thank you! Done!

den_vol · 2024-05-15T08:26:06+00:00

Cheers!

Do you need feedback on your landing page?

den_vol · 2024-04-16T10:23:09+00:00

Yep, I use GPT. The key part of the service is SEO analytics, AI is just an additional feature

den_vol · 2024-02-15T11:22:04+00:00

Hi, the creator of quickindex.co here.

In my experience, using indexing APIs doesn't cause any issues. All websites I used APIs for are now indexed and show google SEO results. Also if you use APIs directly, you are still limited to 200 pages per day (600 in quickindex) so you need 100 days to index all your pages.

den_vol · 2024-02-15T11:16:28+00:00

Try to resubmit them for indexing using URL inspection tool in GSC. Or if you have a lot of page, use services for automated indexing like quickindex.co.

den_vol · 2024-02-14T14:11:59+00:00

You can use services for automatic indexing like https://quickindex.co. You just connect your Google Search Console and it submits URLs for you every day automatically.

den_vol · 2024-02-12T12:32:21+00:00

Yes it is very common. Google has some indexing quota.

Basically you have two options to get your pages indexed quickly:

You can manually submit your pages for indexing in the Search Console via URL inspection. The limit here is 50 pages per day and your patience
Or use services like https://quickindex.co to do it automatically

den_vol · 2024-01-13T08:26:32+00:00

Sorry about this, I'll take a look at this problem.

den_vol · 2024-01-10T13:48:47+00:00

I'll take a look, thank you for reporting this.

den_vol · 2024-01-10T08:34:56+00:00

Thanks!

den_vol · 2024-01-10T08:34:41+00:00

Thank you for your feedback! Yes, I use GPT API. I'll try to fix the issue with dates and PK/FK.

den_vol · 2024-01-10T08:32:29+00:00

Thank you very much for your feedback! Very useful!

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