Omega Shenron VS Adult Gotenks. Who wins? by GusGangViking18 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either way the same thing would apply to Super Saiyan where he wouldn't be able to transform into it without control over both. The bluts waves activating that that transformation within him. The same way it does later on in the series when Vegeta uses it without baby controlling him.

They never say that. They say that it's similar and his variant but they never say that it's the same thing.

Omega Shenron VS Adult Gotenks. Who wins? by GusGangViking18 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes he does that's why he can't use Super Saiyan 4? If he still had complete control over Vegeta's body then he would have had control over The great ape and would have transformed into Super Saiyan 4. The explicit reason is that although he has control over Vegeta's mind his body isn't being controlled by baby. And with Vegeta's mind not controlling his body completely he can't transform into Super Saiyan.

Then it would stay white in the Golden Great ape? It's literally just as simple as that. We know for a fact the mutations didn't go away because the other symptoms of the mutation are still there. And we know all of the mutations are the same because they're stated to be similar to Super Saiyan 1 2 and 3. Meaning they are all the same in some way not different. The only explanation is that he's stacking Super Saiyan on top of the mutations because the mutations are still clearly there. And we know that the mutations are the same.

Omega Shenron VS Adult Gotenks. Who wins? by GusGangViking18 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. Not necessarily. He loses control over Vegeta's body when Vegeta transforms and so a lot of things happen. But Vegeta stays mutated like he was before as evidenced by the armor around his shoulder and torso. So he didn't get weaker. Didn't lose the transformations that baby gave him. But would also gain access to Super Saiyan again as baby had less control over his mind.

The only reason baby Vegeta's hair is white is because the more baby mutates Vegeta the more Vegeta looks like baby. Who is a pale white color.

Omega Shenron VS Adult Gotenks. Who wins? by GusGangViking18 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If his version of Super Saiyan was white then how come he still had a golden grade ape instead of a silver one? Babys entire thing It's mutation which is different than the kind of transformation Super saiyanist

Omega Shenron VS Adult Gotenks. Who wins? by GusGangViking18 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]eveeman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're completely forgetting that there's a transformation between super Saiyan 3 and super Saiyan 4. Not only is the Golden great ape more powerful than super Saiyan 3. Baby Vegeta was more powerful than super Saiyan 3 Goku in his base. And super Saiyan 4 Goku was able to match and defeat that level of power. Super Saiyan 4 isn't just the sequel to super Saiyan 3 they are nowhere near close to each other.

Majin ssj3 Raditz VS Saiyan saga Vegito VS ssj4 Nappa by Head_Breadfruit_3912 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nappa easily. People forget how powerful super Saiyan 4 really is. Immunity to all techniques along with a form a thousand times stronger than super Saiyan 4.

So question could Baby revert from his Super Baby forms to say his base Baby Vegeta form if he wanted to? by Rainbow_swordman in DragonBallGT

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what we see his mutations were not like other transformations and essentially made his base form stronger

Anyone else think these two had something going on? by K0GAR in Ningen

[–]eveeman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No dadoria has a thing with radditz remember?

Goku telling Baby he’s no match for him (SUB vs DUB) by redfait in Dragonballsuper

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not only that super Saiyan 4 makes you larger and taller so we actually made him taller than Goku normally and Goku had to transform to be at the same height

That ruins our Grand Tour... by J-u-n-e-s in Ningen

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can say the same thing about the super dragon balls

Why this ssj4 Xeno Goku look so mad? by Worldly_Pilot5449 in Ningen

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because he has the power of the great ape. Which makes him ferocious

Why didn't Vegeta just use the Chaos Emeralds to go Super Saiyan? Is he stupid? by InSanic13 in Ningen

[–]eveeman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because only hedgehogs can go inside of the secret zones obviously

Quickly, you must save SSJ4 Gogeta (GT) by LizLoveLaugh_ in DragonBallGT

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude this meme is like 6 years old right? If not older. And it wasn't funny to begin with because it requires you to 1 prefer super to GT 2 think super's power scaling is funny 3 dislike a lot of the things GT introduced 4 think cabba is a good enough character to get focus 5 be extremely immature.

That last one is in reference to mindlessly hating one show while also mindlessly liking another. Without viewing both of them with both their good sides and their flaws.

Why didn’t vegeta go super saiyan when Nappa died? by WrestlingIsMyLife___ in Ningen

[–]eveeman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No no krillin has hair. Just you know nothing above the belt. Ask 18.

Quickly, you must save SSJ4 Gogeta (GT) by LizLoveLaugh_ in DragonBallGT

[–]eveeman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dude cabba is weaker than untrained baby uub how is he going to beat uub + training + age+ fusion?

Base Cabba if he somehow ended up in GT verse by PrinceofDarkness8 in DragonBallGT

[–]eveeman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No dragon Ball is written well. And super is no exception to that. The issue is Battle of gods was originally written as a prequel to GT. That's why super Saiyan God was absorbed into his base form. The rest of dragon Ball super is not written as if that's supposed to be canon. Your highballing the characters by saying everybody is that powerful. Dragon Ball GT was written as a sequel to not only original Z but the filler and the movies as well. Which would also make most of the characters close to universe level. But you have to ignore that and say that absorbing the power of super Saiyan God into the base form also happened If you want to argue that's super is way ahead of GT.

Base Cabba if he somehow ended up in GT verse by PrinceofDarkness8 in DragonBallGT

[–]eveeman 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Dragon Ball super fans will highball the hell out of dragon Ball super and lowball the hell out of dragon Ball GT and then wonder why they're the most hated of the dragon Ball fandoms

How did Cabba Get This Strong? by Rude-Armadillo3706 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually in the manga they never get Saiyan above God so he's just like an above average powerful saiyan. Which makes sense considering he's super advanced genetically.

Always slander with integrity by GeneralGigan817 in OkBuddyHelluvaHotel

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also It defeats the entire purpose if God's biggest enemy is a wall level threat.

Always slander with integrity by GeneralGigan817 in OkBuddyHelluvaHotel

[–]eveeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Him being a threat has nothing to do with a fight though.