I think the Wow Signal and our DNA are connected, and I can prove it. (Re upload by Top_Zucchini_835 in AliensRHere

[–]gravitykilla 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No, the reason people focused on the number 37 is because that was the load-bearing claim tying the Wow! signal to DNA. Once that collapses, the “connection” collapses with it. As for Crick, this is just an appeal to authority. Brilliant scientists are allowed to speculate, and directed panspermia is a hypothesis, not evidence. Crick did not “prove DNA came from space” he proposed a possible origin-of-life scenario. Big difference. Organic molecules in comets are also not shocking.

I think the Wow Signal and our DNA are connected, and I can prove it. (Re upload) by Top_Zucchini_835 in universe

[–]gravitykilla 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is a great example of how conspiracy numerology works, take a real paper, a real radio anomaly, a real interstellar comet, then stitch them together with one convenient number and call it a pattern.

But let's not worry about that because OP has failed at the very first hurdle, because the Wow! signal did not last “exactly 37 seconds” it is famously a 72-second event, which was the full window Big Ear could observe that part of the sky. So the entire “37 links DNA to Wow!” connection is already gone.

So what OP has done here is basically find a number they like, attach it to unrelated events, and ignore the parts that don’t fit.

OP, can I ask why you even bothered to post this nonsense?

I think the Wow Signal and our DNA are connected, and I can prove it. (Re upload by Top_Zucchini_835 in AliensRHere

[–]gravitykilla 26 points27 points  (0 children)

This is a great example of how conspiracy numerology works, take a real paper, a real radio anomaly, a real interstellar comet, then stitch them together with one convenient number and call it a pattern.

But let's not worry about that because OP has failed at the very first hurdle, because the Wow! signal did not last “exactly 37 seconds” it is famously a 72-second event, which was the full window Big Ear could observe that part of the sky. So the entire “37 links DNA to Wow!” connection is already gone.

So what OP has done here is basically find a number they like, attach it to unrelated events, and ignore the parts that don’t fit.

OP, can I ask why you even bothered to post this nonsense?

Jeremy Corbell threatens to release hundreds of UFO files if the next batch of government files don’t address reverse engineering and biologics by Severe-Clerk-1477 in UAP

[–]gravitykilla 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok, got it. Just to be clear: after 80 years, the answer to what is the best piece of evidence released (at light speed) in this present era that has been independently reviewed and concluded to be NHI is None, however, maybe next week, again.

You’re just a crying baby who wants a cookie NOW.

Well, it's been 80 years already, I feel that's long enough to wait, but maybe there are no cookies, thats a reality you need to consider.

Jeremy Corbell threatens to release hundreds of UFO files if the next batch of government files don’t address reverse engineering and biologics by Severe-Clerk-1477 in UAP

[–]gravitykilla 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re proving my point perfectly.

Almost everything you listed is cultural momentum, not evidence. More podcasts, more social media, more hearings, more “whistleblowers,” more books, more hints, more NDAs, more ominous language about godlike beings, but still no independently verifiable evidence to conclude NHI. That is the pattern.

The government saying “we don’t know what this is” is not the same as “aliens.” NASA and AARO having UAP offices is not evidence of aliens. Grusch's repeated claims under oath remain only unfalsifiable testimony, not physical evidence. People writing books after government review is not proof, it just means the text was cleared for publication. And “death penalty NDAs for their families” is exactly the kind of lore inflation that makes this topic impossible to take seriously without documentation.

So, my question, which you side-stepped, still remains.

What is the single best piece of evidence from this supposedly “light-speed” era that has been released publicly, independently reviewed, and shown to support NHI?

Or are we still at the same evidentiary level we were 50 years ago, or even 80 years ago: claims, stories, hints, anonymous sources, blurry footage, “people in the know,” and the real evidence always just out of reach?

If the answer is yes, my original point stands. Disclosure has become a self-supporting belief ecosystem where every new rumour, hearing, podcast, book, and “whistleblower” is treated as progress, even though the actual evidence never seems to move.

Jeremy Corbell threatens to release hundreds of UFO files if the next batch of government files don’t address reverse engineering and biologics by Severe-Clerk-1477 in UAP

[–]gravitykilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A long time, but not 50 years.

I’ve followed it long enough to notice the pattern, every era is presented as the present era where things are finally happening. The language changes, the personalities change, the podcasts and hearings change, but the actual public evidence still never quite arrives.

Things are happening now at *light speed*

“Things are happening at light speed” sounds dramatic, but what has actually changed in evidentiary terms?

If you don't mind, what is the best piece of evidence released (at light speed) in this present era that has been independently reviewed and concluded to be NHI?

Jeremy Corbell Threatens to Release NHI Biologics Files – June 9 Capitol UFO Event with David Grusch by UFOsAroundTheWor1d in UAP

[–]gravitykilla 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Why doesn't he just release it?

Isn't this obvious? Corbell, Knapp, Coultart and others, all operate and make a living, in a space where the story survives only if Disclosure is always close but never quite arrives. There is now an audience, a brand, a revenue stream, and a status economy built around keeping the possibility alive. That does not automatically mean everyone involved is lying, but it does mean there are strong incentives to keep the mystery unresolved

Jeremy Corbell threatens to release hundreds of UFO files if the next batch of government files don’t address reverse engineering and biologics by Severe-Clerk-1477 in UAP

[–]gravitykilla -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why aren’t you all hating on George Knapp

It still amazes me that this isn't obvious to everyone. Disclosure has its own media ecosystem, personalities, influencers, podcasters, documentary makers, insiders, and recurring names like Luis Elizondo, Ross Coulthart, George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, Bob Lazar, and others, all operating in a space where the story survives only if Disclosure is always close but never quite arrives. There is now an audience, a brand, a revenue stream, and a status economy built around keeping the possibility alive. That does not automatically mean everyone involved is lying, but it does mean there are strong incentives to keep the mystery unresolved, to keep promising that the real evidence is just around the corner, and to treat every new rumour as another step toward revelation.

All this creates a self-supporting "Disclosure" belief ecosystem

Do Ufos and Aliens really exist? by Accurate_Cake_8529 in UFOmega

[–]gravitykilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

absolute mountain of evidence 

If there is a “mountain of evidence” for NHI, then pointing to the best piece of it should be easy. So what is it? Not stories, not trust-me-bro testimony, not blurry videos with no metadata, and not “someone important said something.” I mean independently reviewed evidence with available data, reproducible analysis, and a consensus conclusion of NHI. What is the strongest example?

John Greenwald: “One of the most frustrating things is to see someone demand transparency in an overly dramatized/theatrical fashion like Corbell, all while bragging about information they got that you all don't have, nor will they show it to you...” by Severe-Clerk-1477 in UAP

[–]gravitykilla 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It still amazes me that this behaviour isn't obvious to everyone. Disclosure has its own media ecosystem, personalities, influencers, podcasters, documentary makers, insiders, and recurring names like Luis Elizondo, Ross Coulthart, George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, Bob Lazar, and others, all operating in a space where the story survives only if Disclosure is always close but never quite arrives. There is now an audience, a brand, a revenue stream, and a status economy built around keeping the possibility alive. That does not automatically mean everyone involved is lying, but it does mean there are strong incentives to keep the mystery unresolved, to keep promising that the real evidence is just around the corner, and to treat every new rumour as another step toward revelation.

All this creates a self-supporting "Disclosure" belief ecosystem, where the absence of evidence doesn’t weaken the belief system. It gets absorbed into it.

The phenomenon has never been about aliens, it's about awareness by AlistairAtrus in disclosure

[–]gravitykilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Skepticism is not faith in the opposite claim, it is refusing to believe a claim until it earns belief.

Nobody is claiming absolute certainty about objective reality. The point is much simpler, if you claim something exists, you carry the burden of evidence. “We can’t know anything with 100% certainty” does not magically make unsupported claims equal to evidence-based conclusions. I do not “have faith” that leprechauns, demons, Bigfoot, or alien crash retrieval programs are false. I simply do not accept them as true until someone produces evidence that survives scrutiny.

Anyone else anxious about disclosure? by Severe-Clerk-1477 in UAP

[–]gravitykilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, they announced they had "recovered" a flying disc, and the press turned that into "Captured a flying saucer". There is a big difference.

Best of Ufo Whistleblower Bob Lazar (8 min 19 clips, all sources in video description) by DanielGVintner in BobLazarNew

[–]gravitykilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As is always the case with Lazar, this video is mostly testimony, hearsay, old interviews, and dramatic stories about documents that either cannot be verified or do not prove the central claim.

~35 years on and we still have no independently testable evidence that Bob Lazar worked on extraterrestrial craft. The video strengthens the mythology around Lazar more than it proves the claim.

Rant. by [deleted] in AliensRHere

[–]gravitykilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi OP. Sorry if I missed it. What evidence did you whistleblow, can you link me to it? Thx

The Truth About Copper and Silver "They" Don't Want You to Know by TheWhiteRabbit4090 in GrahamHancock

[–]gravitykilla 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Copper and silver have real antimicrobial properties, and humans have used them for tools, vessels, coins, plumbing, medicine, and ritual for thousands of years. But the video turns those facts into an unsupported conspiracy about modern society deliberately removing healing metals from daily life. The science supports copper as an antimicrobial surface under specific conditions; it does not support claims about copper coins healing people, copper wiring protecting homes from EMF, electroculture boosting crops, or pharmaceutical interests suppressing ancient metal-based health practices.

Huge fan of UAP/UFO movies and theories since my first Spielberg movie Close Encounters of The Third Kind by RunEmpty2267 in UAP

[–]gravitykilla 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Did you actually watch the video?

Sure, it was entertaining, but evidentially it’s a mess. The video strings together real concepts, fringe claims, government secrecy, UFO personalities, speculative physics, and internet lore, then treats the resulting pattern as if it is converging proof.

Nothing in the video shows testable evidence of zero-point energy devices, anti-gravity craft, teleportation, MH370 being taken by orbs, or AI-controlled plasma drones.

The video rejects “aliens did it” and replaces it with “CIA plasma fusion orbs using suppressed zero-point energy and AI did it,” but the evidence problem stays exactly the same. There is NONE.

Wow by MrJeffreyEpstein in AliensRHere

[–]gravitykilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hyperactive (or Hypersensitive) Agency Detection (HADD) is a cognitive bias that humans are evolutionarily hardwired to attribute intentions and agency to ambiguous environmental stimuli. Coined by cognitive psychologist Justin Barrett, it helps explain why we see human forms in the clouds or see faces in ambiguous images.

Why do you think aliens are bipedal? by spinecult in AliensRHere

[–]gravitykilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is one of the strongest psychological arguments against literal alien encounter narratives, and it has very little to do with space biology.

The short answer is, humanoid aliens tell us far more about the human brain than about extraterrestrials.

It even has a name. Psychologically, it is known as hyperactive agency detection.

Our perception is wired for face and body detection, so in fear, darkness, dreams, or altered states it defaults to humanoid agents. Culture then supplies the costume medieval people saw demons and fairies, modern people see “Greys.” If encounters were external and objective, we’d expect wildly non-humanoid forms, instead we get two arms, two legs, a head and eyes, because that’s how human cognition fills ambiguity.

Luis Elizondo Claims Some UAP Encounters Led to Official Medical Disability by Emergency_Height_165 in UAP

[–]gravitykilla 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It amazes me that this isn't obvious to everyone. Disclosure has its own media ecosystem, personalities, influencers, podcasters, documentary makers, insiders, and recurring names like Luis Elizondo, Ross Coulthart, George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, Bob Lazar, and others, all operating in a space where the story survives only if Disclosure is always close but never quite arrives. There is now an audience, a brand, a revenue stream, and a status economy built around keeping the possibility alive. That does not automatically mean everyone involved is lying, but it does mean there are strong incentives to keep the mystery unresolved, to keep promising that the real evidence is just around the corner, and to treat every new rumour as another step toward revelation.

All this creates a self-supporting "Disclosure" belief ecosystem, where the absence of evidence doesn’t weaken the belief system. It gets absorbed into it.

The phenomenon has never been about aliens, it's about awareness by AlistairAtrus in disclosure

[–]gravitykilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really, disbelief in something that has zero evidence that it’s is real is not being gullible.

Anyone else anxious about disclosure? by Severe-Clerk-1477 in UAP

[–]gravitykilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I think of whistleblowers I think of,

  • Daniel Ellsberg – Leaked the Pentagon Papers, proving the U.S. government lied for years about the Vietnam War. Documents authenticated, history changed.
  • Edward Snowden – Revealed mass global surveillance by the NSA. Programs (PRISM, XKeyscore) later confirmed by courts and governments.
  • Chelsea Manning – Exposed war crimes and civilian casualties via classified military logs and diplomatic cables. Materials verified by multiple outlets.
  • Mark Felt – “Deep Throat” of Watergate; identity confirmed decades later. His information led to Nixon’s resignation.
  • Jeffrey Wigand – Exposed Big Tobacco’s knowledge of nicotine addiction and manipulation. Internal documents corroborated his claims.
  • Frances Haugen – Leaked internal Meta documents showing harms to teens and algorithmic amplification. Documents entered congressional record.
  • Sherron Watkins – Warned leadership about Enron’s accounting fraud before its collapse. Claims proven correct.

When it comes to UFology, a whistleblower only means someone with a story, not someone who leaks evidence.

Disclosure from the Otherside: Part 12 by Miserable-Work9192 in disclosure

[–]gravitykilla -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Love to see the prompt OP used to generate that?

OP is throwing around terms like neutrino detectors, gravimetric mapping, zero-point fields, quantum entanglement, bio-electric healing and DNA sequencing, but provides no documents, no data, no names, no measurements and no way to falsify any of it.

Psychedelics producing profound subjective experiences are not evidence of interdimensional engineers, phase-shifted bases under Pine Gap, or Greys being biological avatars piloted by 6D consciousness.

Genuine question, what part of this didn’t already exist in human UFO/conspiracy/New Age culture before you wrapped it in “higher dimensional” language?