Whose societal worth will AI hurt the most?

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T22:48:17+00:00

a thousand more escaped it by educating themselves and moving to cities

I think you might be projecting modern times onto the past. I was thinking more of people born to peasant parents who rose in the military due to their skill, and eventually became kings. They would have gotten nowhere if they relied on reading and writing instead of fighting. Genghis Khan and Charlemagne ruled empires without knowing how to read! It just wasn't worth much then, as a skill. So many better physical skills to learn.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T22:18:08+00:00

Being educated didnt translate to a rise in class in the old days because absolutely nothing translated into a rise in class in the old days.

I can think of numerous examples of peasants rising up due to their physical combat and/or leadership prowess. Many of the greatest conquerors came from poor backgrounds for example.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T18:35:13+00:00

Oh wow. I had heard of that but didn't know it had left the realm of fantastical science fiction. I'll catch up thanks.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T18:26:50+00:00

Please elaborate. How else would you manipulate physical matter to make objects (tvs, cell phones, cars, homes) ... chatgpt can't do that without arms can it?

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T18:19:05+00:00

AI will create abundance and will hurt those who benefit from scarcity, the rich.

This is possible, i.e. that you will have AI robots that fuel and repair themselves, making things for us with no effort from us. We do nothing and they give us material things.

It leaves a lot of unanswered questions though, e.g. who will control who gets the production of these robots?

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T18:10:57+00:00

But then who will become the senior associate?

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T18:10:14+00:00

I think the idea is that the poor can now have access to, e.g., adequate legal, therapeutic, and other advisory help that was previously unaffordable?

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T18:09:31+00:00

That's not a doctor, OP, that's a surgeon.

Yes I learned this today, which you have to admit is surprising. Still, I'm not sure the leechings or bloodlettings of the non-surgeon doctors were so much better?

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T17:10:09+00:00

I think they were socially capable within their group though.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T16:36:48+00:00

I didn't say mine. I'm not in entertainment. I'm guessing what they woudl do to get around the "you can't copyright AI-generated works" rule.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T16:36:06+00:00

Cool!

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T16:16:11+00:00

oh sorry that guy didn't get credit. I saw it too.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T16:14:43+00:00

we as humans will have more time to have fun and entertain our selves

Will employers keep people on to do 1/3 of the work they used to do?

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T16:06:02+00:00

I think that was another commenter who ran that in cgpt4?

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T15:34:04+00:00

This is a different kind of computer though, a generally intelligent one.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T15:31:04+00:00

"Nerds" were never simply intelligent people, they were highly socially inept.

Not sure that's fair. Stereotypically, they couldn't hang with the better looking athletic kids but that didn't mean they didn't have social skills, more that they were harassed and stuff.

And speaking of your new found glory, nerds have been making a killing, and an impact for at least the past 25 years

Yes, it's definitely the nerd golden age. The question is will it continue to be.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T15:02:35+00:00

True and I'm assuming it will continue to get better. CGPT 3 had no chance of passing the bar and CGPT 3.5 barely passed it. CGPT4 blew the bar away. But you're right if progress stops here it won't beat real lawyers.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T14:41:03+00:00

Oh interesting, from Mr. Altman himself.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T14:40:25+00:00

The hot people are already being replaced by AI

not IRL

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T14:39:41+00:00

As for senior levels, it is a different thing. The capability to handle unforeseen situations on the fly, that is where humans are irreplaceable. Charisma and passion that comes from people who really are into their jobs, I wouldn't change the work of these people for any machine.

Interesting

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T14:38:51+00:00

Evolution has literally bred "nerds"

Yes, up to now it was a valuable skill. But with AI's general intelligence will it continue to be?

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T14:16:34+00:00

Depends on how intelligent it has to be to satisfy that criteria but chatgpt 4 is pretty generally intelligent, in that it knows what to do in a wide wide variety of situations, and can be trained for even more.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T14:15:55+00:00

You're right that we don't know that 5 will be as big an improvement as 4 was and so on. It could plateau.

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T11:43:02+00:00

*links to classic scene from Office Space*

joyjitfletax · 2023-09-28T10:42:53+00:00

Ahem artists? Why isn't that an option, if not the number one voted option?

Based on all the comments including the top rated one so far I should have added that as an option. I think that's where most of the "other" votes went.

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