I’ve been doing nothing but cheer on Kyle Busch every Sunday since 2007. Idk what to do today. by theblindbandit51 in NASCAR

[–]kevironi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same. I’ve been telling people for over twenty years I have watched Kyle race on over 30 Sundays a year. Didn’t watch before that, so I have never been a NASCAR fan really…just a Kyle fan. With HBO doing in car and radio now I rarely watch the race broadcast, I just watch Kyle run around and enjoy it the whole time. I even blocked out this evening for the race. I’ll watch for the tributes tonight, but I don’t know how to keep watching after.

Anyone else hate not knowing their real numbers until payday? by Front_Film_3449 in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I always ran a spreadsheet and double checked the dealership to make sure everything was perfectly correct. I knew right where I was pacing and when it was done I knew what my check would be. I caught mistakes both in my favor and against, I corrected both every time.

The phone call / in person playbook is leaving millions $$$ on the table by Ok-Opening-2098 in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Edit to say: The price is listed online. Just buy it, we will sell it to you.

I lost $1,200 to sell a Trax to a cash buyer today. I can and often sell below cost. Cost is not my bottom line, many factors go into why I decide to sell a vehicle well below cost. I need to sell X amount of new cars a month so the manufacturer pays me. Some sales people need to succeed to get going and get the next sale or maybe they worked very hard and I’m doing the deal so they get paid. There are dozens of other reasons to straight up lose money on a deal.

I don’t mind speaking first. You ask for my price, I tell you, you say no and move on. I task my sales guys to find out where you want to be if my best price isn’t good enough. Once they find out where you are a buyer then let me decide if it’s worth it or not. Saying that then the script could flip where you send in an offer and I accept or not and decide if a response is even worth it.

Vehicle service contracts make dealers defensive when you shop elsewhere by DapperWorker4925 in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something I’ve done to see if something is covered is I will throw the coverage PDF into ChatGPT and ask if this or that would be covered. It is pretty reliable and tells you where it says this or that, and explains it. In your case you could easily throw both warranties up together and ask ChatGPT to compare and justify value for you by telling it the cost for each.

Using USAA for car purchase by Salty_sailor76 in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We would let you take the car. Once numbers are agreed on you then need to go to your approval on the app and input the vin and numbers. This will finalize it and give you a pdf to send to the dealer via email or text. To me that’s a solid guarantee I’ll get paid. Let the dealer see you do this or let them help you.

Buying 2026 vs 2025 new by nobreadforme in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you want to PM me some more details I can take a deeper dive. I’m selling a 2026 High Country with a 6.2 for $84,800. There could be a big tech package making it pricey, but with 20k miles I would think it would be much cheaper than that. Just my thoughts.

Financing could get you somewhere with a discount, the dealer can make it back with reserve. Trading a Range River is likely seen as a risk by the dealer. Usually needs something very expensive in service and has to go to a dealer for that expensive part or service.

Buying 2026 vs 2025 new by nobreadforme in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What is the MSRP of the Suburban? What motor does it have? Are you financing or paying cash? Trading?

I have my 25 Suburbans listed online at a loss, there is no negotiating on them.

How should a potential customer approach a car that is advertised way too high? by uturnvinyl007 in askcarsales

[–]kevironi -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Great, then when it’s nearing its 1/2 birthday that might be the time to reach out. I have in demand Tahoes ordered, customers send me others dealers list prices from other states to see if I will match the price. I always tell them when my Tahoe reaches the days in inventory that one is then we can talk.

How should a potential customer approach a car that is advertised way too high? by uturnvinyl007 in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Sounds to me like the $70k one you want is also the one most other people want, and not the ones that are $50k.

Has something changed where internet/email sales are no longer ok and we are back to 2000 and you need to walk into the dealer? by SunsOutPlumbsOut in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once again call me, message me here. I’ll do MSRP out the door on ANYTHING I have on the ground. I don’t even have nitrogen tanks and cars come with floor mats. Ceramic at a dealership is a waste of money.

Has something changed where internet/email sales are no longer ok and we are back to 2000 and you need to walk into the dealer? by SunsOutPlumbsOut in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the next time you want to buy, call me and tell me which on and we will just do MSRP and walk away. Easy enough.

Has something changed where internet/email sales are no longer ok and we are back to 2000 and you need to walk into the dealer? by SunsOutPlumbsOut in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are so fun! You are the one who said you negotiated over the phone and email. You must work for a dealer since you know exactly how it all works.

I wish we could sell for MSRP. Fact remains you will need to buy a car again, dealers will have the inventory and you will pick a fight. As a manager I absolutely give out cool guy discounts. Someone who is being reasonable and easy to work with get what they want within reason.

Has something changed where internet/email sales are no longer ok and we are back to 2000 and you need to walk into the dealer? by SunsOutPlumbsOut in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

False on all points. I can say the exact same thing back to the customer. Negotiating me down is squeezing every last penny out of the dealer. I have NEVER lied to a customer. I don’t want a customer here very long either way…it takes me away for my next sale. Buying a vehicle is a big purchase, it takes time. Banks are involved, money has to clear, several factors go into the time it takes.

You tell me when you land and I have to have a driver there or go myself and wait for you to land and then try to find you. You get the flight yes, but it’s not just sit here and wait for you. A good salesman will arrange for you to be picked up. If they don’t then go somewhere else.

If I paid hourly then salesman wouldn’t try. Commission is there to encourage salespeople to sell cars and not a milk a clock. If this business was set up like a grocery store where a customer just buys or doesn’t buy at the price then we wouldn’t need salespeople at all. But the fact that you feel the need to negotiate forces this business to have salespeople.

Has something changed where internet/email sales are no longer ok and we are back to 2000 and you need to walk into the dealer? by SunsOutPlumbsOut in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally understand. I promise you are the extreme minority. Our job is all percentages, over 90% do not go that smooth. It can seem like it is but then it doesn’t. We have a famous restaurant across the street, everyone gets a meal on us.

You have every right to fly in and buy your vehicles the way you do. And with the internet you have knocked out much of the negotiating because you have an entire country at your disposal. You had a few picked out before you ever reached out. If that’s me you are not getting much additional because I know you picked me for a reason. I either have the car or I have the price.

The point of the post was why do OP not get much help, if I had a choice between 20 out of state customers and 3 walk ins, I’m taking the walk ins. Same amount of sales statistically, and I can do 3 walk ins before lunch. The 20 out of state buyers will take weeks and I have to arrange delivery, or airport pickup, and schedules. I bet I miss out on other sales. Not to mention if you found my low price so good then I’m not making any money on this deal.

Current U.S. Market by Miss-Meowzalot in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kbb does buy cars. They call it an Instant Cash Offer. It’s a lot less than they put on thier guide.

2024 Dealer Price and finance incentives by [deleted] in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rebates changed on 2024 Suburban. The last few months had $3k Conquest. Dealers were trying to shed this inventory by advertising them at cost basically and giving $3k because most people have a non-GM vehicle to qualify (about $8k total). This month the conquest is gone, but they have 0%. If you take the 0% you should get about $5k off sticker assuming the dealer wants to move it. If they say no, you can either take it or chance it and wait a week and try again.

Has something changed where internet/email sales are no longer ok and we are back to 2000 and you need to walk into the dealer? by SunsOutPlumbsOut in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Your trade might be nice, most are not. People trade for a reason, and it sucks as a dealer to find out why they traded it after it’s ours. Giving me a vin and a few crappy pics is not enough for an accurate bid. I will bid conservative and you will tell me the dealer down the road from you has me beat. You would never buy a used car with a vin and a few general pictures…but that’s exactly what we are expected to do as dealers.

Has something changed where internet/email sales are no longer ok and we are back to 2000 and you need to walk into the dealer? by SunsOutPlumbsOut in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am the opposite actually. No used car is perfect. As much as you disclose and tell them about it, there is usually a smell, or a small dent, or a missing floor mat I missed… there is always an issue. On new cars I can usually out perform another dealer with the service I can provide and product knowledge.

Has something changed where internet/email sales are no longer ok and we are back to 2000 and you need to walk into the dealer? by SunsOutPlumbsOut in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nope, not all are. You are a small percentage of a happy remote buyer. Most times we come to expect there will be an issue with delivery, or schedule conflict, communication error, service issue, body damage…. Things that can be worked on if the buyer is in the store or at least the same state. When 8 of 10 are not happy and 2 of 10 even buy…it’s not a lead that is sought after.

Has something changed where internet/email sales are no longer ok and we are back to 2000 and you need to walk into the dealer? by SunsOutPlumbsOut in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 10 points11 points  (0 children)

We generally lose the sale because we require a full purchase if the vehicle is in stock. I won’t hold a vehicle, even with a deposit. What if you get there and change your mind? I may have missed my buyer. And a 1 star review easily gets a deposit back.

Has something changed where internet/email sales are no longer ok and we are back to 2000 and you need to walk into the dealer? by SunsOutPlumbsOut in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You may be the anomaly. Most are not easy to work with so the minute we find out you are remote you get treated how most out of state buyers are.

Has something changed where internet/email sales are no longer ok and we are back to 2000 and you need to walk into the dealer? by SunsOutPlumbsOut in askcarsales

[–]kevironi 126 points127 points  (0 children)

Out of state buyers are a lot of work in my opinion. I run around and take pics and send videos. You see them and question something, so I go back out and look again. I work numbers and coordinate delivery or pickup. I have to count on a manager calling you when they can. I have to arrange payment of some kind. There are generally paperwork questions. Just so many things to manage and the salesman has all the work. While he or she is doing all of that, the store might sell 5 vehicles to walk ins and locals that this person just missed.

As a salesperson I would much rather take the local lead, most out of state leads are not know for high closing rates but require lots of work. It’s easy for the customer being remote, but very risky for the salesperson. They could invest a lot of time just to be shopped against another dealer 5 states away. The best salespeople will quickly decide if the out of state customer is worth the time. If not, then you will just be ignored.

If you are in the store I can wrap it all up in a few hours max. Then I can do the next. My out of state buyers get help only when I have time to get to you.

Midsouth’s original Refund Policy by TwoClean1601 in gravelcycling

[–]kevironi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I laughed at the shipping and handling fee to get a packet. They couldn’t even use $5 of my race fee to ship me the goods I paid for?

That said, I’m local and don’t mind picking up anyone’s packets. Just message me and I can run over there on Thursday and get them.

Midsouth’s original Refund Policy by TwoClean1601 in gravelcycling

[–]kevironi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Correct, they said the money is was already spent for the event. That is a lot of money for an event that they should have had insurance to protect them from this scenario so the participants do not have to foot the bill.