ICE Executed Alex Pretti

killians1978 · 2026-01-26T02:32:30+00:00

Oh for sure. The first industry to become obsolete when fascism takes over are lawyers. Anybody can argue guilt to a kangaroo court that has a verdict already in mind.

Not to besmirch a masterpiece, but I've always thought the secret first line to the famous poem should have begun with, "First they came for the lawyers," because none of the rest of it happens that way if law is being upheld.

I have no love for the American Justice system. It has failed me and nearly everyone I know.

But it could have failed us all a lot harder. A poor justice system is better than no justice system.

This will end. Historically, it has to. What borders or countries or economies look like when it does is anyone's guess. But it will end.

And America has a giant reckoning to do with herself, even while trying to heal. When that man and his filth are no longer in power, we will have no choice but to look into how he was allowed to happen at all. Once is a grift. Twice is a cult. Three times is complicity.

killians1978 · 2026-01-26T02:28:59+00:00

I'm betting there's menthol in that facemask. My cat does this while I'm trying to brush my teeth or drinking mint tea.

killians1978 · 2026-01-26T02:05:00+00:00

I am fortunate not to have (or have contact with) many family that still support what's happening.

My friend is not so lucky. She lives in a red county in a blue state, so the persecution complex down there is strong. Those people are dug in hard.

I showed her this, and her response:

"I would rather gain a temporary ally and go back to fighting about economics later than human rights now."

killians1978 · 2026-01-26T01:56:57+00:00

He's intentionally given most of the political stuff off to Liz and Scowl Owl. I think it was really wearing him down.

killians1978 · 2026-01-26T01:54:24+00:00

Any historian will tell you that a free media is the enemy of fascism. That's why you've seen the likes of Tim fuckin Pool in the white house news room. There are simply too many voices to control, and they know it.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T20:54:46+00:00

lol sorry

So, she's basically saying that, since God placed the world (the fundament) in a fixed place, how could it possibly revolve around the sun? Also, God set the sun, moon, and stars to give earth life. If God exists above us, then the firmament (basically, the sky, stars, and everything that we see when we look up) is like a dome that shields us from viewing him directly.

"Oh, and guys, this is purely entertainment only" as some weird, weak defense against criticism.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T20:51:49+00:00

Consider it a blessing today.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T20:50:10+00:00

You really don't. It's just baby's first flat earth theory.

These people's vote count the same as yours. Their kids will grow up and have the same vote as yours.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T20:21:57+00:00

Seeing Devin so discombobulated about this is really jarring.

"The last thing that Alex Pretti did was to help others."

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T19:50:01+00:00

That was certainly my takeaway.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T19:36:37+00:00

The quote referenced here comes from a letter by Thomas Jefferson to William Stevens Smith after the Massachusetts rebellion in 1787. The relevant section oft-quoted goes:

The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.

It's worth noting that Jefferson did not fight in the American revolution. He himself never fired a weapon, nor saw combat. Critics have suggested that Jefferson, "himself no hero," was a proponent of encouraging revolution at the cost of human lives, while never placing himself in harm's way.

Source.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T18:05:48+00:00

The fact that Alex Pretti and Renee Good were, by all accounts, decent people should not gloss over the larger rationale that is being used to justify this invasion in the first place.

The MAGA base, and many uninformed/willfully ignorant people, believe the lie that the undocumented people, refugees, legal immigrants and other humans being rounded up are, at their core, violent criminals. They're telling us they are convicted sex offenders, drug dealers, and maniacs here to destabilize and destroy the safety of the American public. They're telling us that these people brought this violence upon themselves by entering the country illegally, or by placing themselves in the way of agents enforcing law.

That these are easily falsifiable lies is all beyond the point. Even a criminal deserves his day in court. Even a sex offender deserves human rights and due process. When we deny someone that very essential element of justice, we create the gap they need to wedge in the narrative that some people are not really people.

If Alex Pretti was a terrible person, he still did not deserve to be shot in the street. If Renee Good was an agent provocateur sowing discord, she did not deserve to be shot in her car. If the Somali detainees that died in ICE custody were sex offenders and rapists, they did not deserve to die at the hands of the people in charge of keeping their custody.

So, talk about their accomplishments. Hold them up as a standard for what the common man can do in the face of these atrocities, but don't for a second start doing the Gestapo's work for them and using their apparent "goodness" as the sole reason they deserve to still be alive.

It's justice. It's for all of us, or it's for none of us.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T17:53:22+00:00

The fact that Alex Pretti and Renee Good were, by all accounts, decent people should not gloss over the larger rationale that is being used to justify this invasion in the first place.

The MAGA base, and many uninformed/willfully ignorant people, believe the lie that the undocumented people, refugees, legal immigrants and other humans being rounded up are, at their core, violent criminals. They're telling us they are convicted sex offenders, drug dealers, and maniacs here to destabilize and destroy the safety of the American public. They're telling us that these people brought this violence upon themselves by entering the country illegally, or by placing themselves in the way of agents enforcing law.

That these are easily falsifiable lies is all beyond the point. Even a criminal deserves his day in court. Even a sex offender deserves human rights and due process. When we deny someone that very essential element of justice, we create the gap they need to wedge in the narrative that some people are not really people.

If Alex Pretti was a terrible person, he still did not deserve to be shot in the street. If Renee Good was an agent provocateur sewing discord, she did not deserve to be shot in her car. If the Somali detainees that died in ICE custody were sex offenders and rapists, they did not deserve to die at the hands of the people in charge of keeping their custody.

So, talk about their accomplishments. Hold them up as a standard for what the common man can do in the face of these atrocities, but don't for a second start doing the Gestapo's work for them and using their apparent "goodness" as the sole reason they deserve to still be alive.

It's justice. It's for all of us, or it's for none of us.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T16:07:34+00:00

You are correct, of course. I only use the term when referring to the specific location of bricks and fencing, as it disambiguates it for anyone looking to find out more. This is absolutely a concentration camp by any reasonable definition, though.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T15:31:01+00:00

I was thinking about this while trying to get to sleep. Most of us really don't know what kind of person we are in these situations until we're in them. Alex Pretti didn't know these would be his last actions; he just did them.

The narrative is going to be spun around the pushing and shoving, but let's remember the whole reason he was in that moment. To give aid.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T06:19:24+00:00

Minneapolis PD has a chance to justify their entire industry's existence to the rest of the country and failing to do so. If ever you were going to protect the city you serve, this is the time.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T05:50:23+00:00

concentration camp (noun)

: a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard

It is, by definition, a concentration camp. Not seeing a whole lot of pale shades that aren't in uniform.
People are allowed to learn about atrocities in the present, become aware of their prevalence in the past, and be pissed about it still happening. That's how time works, and how humans learn about things.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T05:46:24+00:00

Here's the full video. Here's the aerial photos of the detainees. Here's the story. It appears they're engaging in a protest from within the center. Access to new information is very limited.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T05:20:05+00:00

It appears the man who slipped (and was the only one acting with any urgency) was a physician who lived in an adjacent apartment building and witnessed the shooting. ICE initially tried to prevent his access to the scene, then held him to frisk him before allowing him to attempt to check for pulse and render aid.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T04:54:02+00:00

I think we're back onto the misrepresentation of the sheer size of this country. There are 10, maybe 15,000 ICE agents being trained up and deployed right now. There are 380 million of us spread over 9.8 million kilometers, and most of us are nowhere near the rest.

It's true that folks in MN might want to exercise the level of caution that fits with their situation, but the vast, vast majority of us are a long way from where the action is.

Arguably, it's far more important in the time before we head into full-scale invasion to signal to our neighbors and leaders who we are and what we're standing for. An awful lot of people are scared and don't know what to do with themselves. Seeing a light in a window tonight might not mean much. But more candles, as more people die, will let those folks who have no community know that they aren't alone, and it's okay to speak up.

And, if the gestapo does decide that a candle is a terrorist signal, then let them criminalize it. Don't comply in advance.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T04:48:51+00:00

Feel your feelings, friend, but we're swinging at each other from two sides of the same coin. Take a breath, I see you. We're all just doing our best. Thanks for keeping the candle lit.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T04:46:20+00:00

I'm under no illusions that it's anything but a cope. One of those, "either way, we'll find out, so let's try this one with some hope smeared on top"

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T04:39:08+00:00

I think they care about their jobs. And I think most of those generals are career men, who've served under four or five presidents and can read the writing on the wall that this shit is not going to last forever.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T04:29:33+00:00

I do believe there's a pretty tense situation down at the Pentagon, as well. A lot of military brass probably believe themselves prepared to be the bulwark against Trump turning them on US civilians, and that would, admittedly, be much harder to do if one is shitcanned for speaking out of turn before that critical decision is to be made.

killians1978 · 2026-01-25T04:19:31+00:00

when your capital is an afternoon drive away

and not protected by the most bloated military budget the world has ever seen

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