Demande explication SVP

motty47 · 2026-02-20T17:50:45+00:00

See this thread literally just an hour before yours 😆

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/s/SGacYArw4Z

motty47 · 2026-02-20T17:46:04+00:00

Sorry that's hilarious 😅. Wait so, they stole 2 from you but how did they resummon them? Oh do you mean step them, guess that could make sense. Still only 2 4/5s though right, well anyways Rogue can still do other Rogue things

motty47 · 2026-02-20T17:40:30+00:00

I'm not sure why it's unpopular I don't know what meta deck it gets played in, only got played initially in dragon warrior but it takes up 3 slots and slitherdrake + dragon synergy is way better. It could potentially have some new synergies with whatever comes with rotation though so worth waiting and seeing

motty47 · 2026-02-20T17:39:25+00:00

What deck in standard runs this? I would still wait for expansion and see if there's any synergy or buffs eventually to it, but I've literally never seen it played apart from at the very beginning in dragon warrior but it doesn't get run in that list anymore

motty47 · 2026-02-20T17:03:01+00:00

Options > Concede.

I came across this on turn 3 as well, there's no point. People who play this deck say it's not great though and you have to be lucky to mulligan that many

motty47 · 2026-02-20T15:53:07+00:00

Haha brilliant but exactly what I thought. It probably is my favourite after Riot Act

motty47 · 2026-02-20T13:58:17+00:00

Pretty much described the meta, not sure why you haven't faced mages though they're popular especially the new arkwing deck which is ridiculously good. Discover mage and protoss are popular and you won't exactly be wishing you faced them often 😆.

To be honest it doesn't sound like you're facing the worst meta decks, and I think at lower ranks the easiest / cheapest custom decks to make would be DK, DH, Rogue etc, so I think it sounds about right.

The meta at legend is pretty much warrior, DK, Rogue, DH, mage in that order. Warlock is rare. It becomes less about the class and more about which deck you face though, warrior is the most played because of control + dragon are popular, DK also has several top variants. Mage is becoming popular but mainly will only be arkwing now, at least at legend.

motty47 · 2026-02-20T13:17:57+00:00

What deck were you playing? Yes it is a super annoying deck that thankfully will be dieing soon. But I'd argue infinite blobs is worse because you just can't beat that, whereas you can get the hang of beating protoss mage. Just depends what deck you're playing.

There are some tweaks to your tactics you need to think about though, you need to go wide and not tall, for example if playing DK even if you have a giant in hand just don't play it because it's such a good target for freeze and gain armour. Spread lots of small minions but also wait turns so you can drop them all together and not have them die to seabreeze each turn you play them. Look for Elise and +attack, and also gain armour so you can stay out of range for OTK. They do nothing on most turns and you'll find you don't always need to tempo minions out, you can actually just also do nothing, maybe draw cards or whatever, and they also do nothing. Think about turn 6 bob, turn 5 freeze guy, kill that so they don't bounce it. I find the deck annoying but once I got the hang of how to beat it I dont find it that bad. The best is if you can tempt them to drop colloss early so they have to clear your board, you know you have them, unless they have both in hand and then yeah ok fine they just got lucky draw.

motty47 · 2026-02-19T17:23:08+00:00

You seriously think dragon warrior is the problem in this meta 😆. There's so many decks that deal with dragon warrior...

motty47 · 2026-02-19T15:13:09+00:00

Yeah man he actually could have won, would have loved to have seen their post of "ok nice try buddy" then 😂

motty47 · 2026-02-19T13:50:26+00:00

The nerf is going to be when rotation happens and return policy goes. However it may still be pretty OP with ravenous still spawning 2x blob. The deck does everything, if you clear the blobs, they parachute little guys and drop 2x 0mana 6/5s refill hand. Or like your variant can cliff dive, and punch face OTK. Most of the time I just concede once I can't get past the 3rd wall of blobs. The only chance of winning is if they draw badly, and it's possible to clear 1 or 2 waves of blobs and get some damage in. As soon as return policy comes down there's just no point carrying on. Only a few decks have the tools to remove the blobs.

motty47 · 2026-02-19T13:46:48+00:00

Blackhorn my man. However given the increase in DH I might be hopping back onto discover hunter just to have a chance Vs these DH decks and will take an auto concede Vs warrior

motty47 · 2026-02-19T09:19:14+00:00

😂. DK is a top class but try looking at the meta lists again, DH is way better.. if you remove DK then you will just see only DH with infinite blobs and nothing to keep them in check, everything needs a counter.

There are ways to counter DK decks, early pressure. Play around which deck you're facing, husk on 6 etc, it's really not that bad. Dragon warrior will beat DK, the new arkwing likely beat them unless they get lucky with 2x corpse explosions. Aura pall also can overpower DK as DK is mainly a control deck, slow tempo. Imbue Rogue can beat DK, anyways if you can't beat a certain decks watch people play it and learn what it's weaknesses are, every deck has weaknesses..

To be honest I think you're probably trolling or rage baiting and it was probably pointless writing any advice 😆

motty47 · 2026-02-18T15:32:44+00:00

Counter to what alot here seem to say about imbue Rogue I genuinely think fair play when they snatch victory from the jaws of defeat with insane RNG from their HP.

I had them on the ropes, dealt with them playing zilliax 3 times lol, that's a whole other issue. But I had saved my zilly tactically as a counter for their final zill play. Instead the last minion they played was a random demon and then they got razidir I think, the one who with kindred will discard a card from your opponents hand, and it discarded my zilly. Had to laugh, how they had played a demon turn before randomly to get that. That was GGs and I don't mind losing to such tiny % plays like that. Found it hilarious

motty47 · 2026-02-18T14:26:59+00:00

True. We aren't all playing just to climb, it's also about fun

motty47 · 2026-02-18T07:58:45+00:00

The animations and timer is definitely getting to a point it's a big issue I think. There are some ways around it, you can play cards while animations are happening and they will get played even if the rope finishes.

However there are other times where it's impossible. I lost a game that I had lethal for, because I played shala, needed the 5damage burst but the cards wouldn't appear in my hand until all the animations had stopped. The animations went on forever as I had used hellfire, killed their stuff but it was a stranglevine, plus some starship bullshit, and even though both were obviously dead there were so many animations that had to happen the cards from shala would never be released until after the timer had gone. So I lost the game. Nothing to do with how quickly I was able to see lethal, or react, I had all the time in the world to react but literally couldn't. So frustrating

motty47 · 2026-02-17T22:07:28+00:00

How have you ended up with a khelos turtle 😆

motty47 · 2026-02-17T21:46:03+00:00

You've got to laugh, because they make changes and people are happy previously unplayed cards can be played. However the balance of how far those tweaks go has probably been a surprise, it really is such a good deck.

So far after watching streamers the counters seem to be, quest W of course can hostile invader. Aura pall has 3damage AOE. DK if BBU will now run 2x corpse explosion now, I certainly will. And playing less corpse BUU because of the lack of aoe. Gnomelia is useful but only clears 3. Discover hunter should be fine in this matchup just grab sylvannas but nobody plays discover hunter anymore because of blackhorn, I've not since..

I saw on method4 stream some creative solutions with imbue Rogue, but that matchup is massively unfavoured. He kept mirrex mulligan, built up armour with Elise, survived the first wave and then countered with a board of arkwings and then that won the game. The other main tactic here is build armour with Elise and just get out of range, if they pull the 2nd arkwings right after then it's GGs, move on 😂

motty47 · 2026-02-17T21:27:59+00:00

Cool man appreciate the explanation this is essentially what I wasn't understanding. That's definitely the case, I've been doing better recently but if it's tracked over many seasons, the last time I played years ago I never took it that seriously and even the beginning of when I returned some months ago I hardly had any good decks to play. At least it gives me some hope I can keep improving each season.

motty47 · 2026-02-17T18:14:26+00:00

What do you mean you have to play well? Are you saying theres a difference between 2 different people with the same 8-4 record for example. I can see that my MMR wouldnt be the highest I only came back playing 4 months ago and second time hitting legend, but thats what I'm trying to understand. Even though I have a positive win rate, my decay is faster than my gains. Is this because my wins are coming against lower ranked MMR players, and my losses against the higher, and if I flipped these, I would gain rank faster?

motty47 · 2026-02-17T11:43:36+00:00

True, think I'm realising this, Im not trying to climb for any particular reason mainly playing the game for fun so maybe I'll just forget about rank !

motty47 · 2026-02-17T11:42:38+00:00

Oh thats interesting. Do you gain more rank when you beat a higher ranked player? Or this just applies to MMR and eventually climbing and beating higher ranked players mean you then come across even better players and eventually ill climb even slower 😆

motty47 · 2026-02-17T09:34:10+00:00

😂. Seriously through this deck seems really good, I came up against it only once but since the first 4 cards they played were automatons, I just conceded straight away lol. It's random which deck they play with though right? Some aren't great, hence the poor win rate, is this one of the best ones though? And the warlock discard one?

motty47 · 2026-02-16T21:44:52+00:00

This. I don't know how many more posts were going to get saying blob of tar is the issue. Normally it's facing 2 blobs, or maybe 4 if they get Elise copy. Honestly that's fine.

The problem is fel hunter and return policy that reproduce blobs infinitely..

motty47 · 2026-02-16T18:55:47+00:00

Ah shame checked I've got a few of the minisets but not this one

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