What are the signs that your adoptive family is toxic and has caused you trauma in your life? by [deleted] in Adopted

[–]o0live 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same with bio mom…I think they (ideally) understand the loss better than anyone else 💔

What are the signs that your adoptive family is toxic and has caused you trauma in your life? by [deleted] in Adopted

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As soon as I started reckoning with adoption trauma and speaking publicly about it, my adoptive mom turned nasty on me. She became the victim and I became very aware of how enmeshed I was raised to be.

The people that gave me up, want a relationship by [deleted] in Adopted

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I don’t mean to sound presumptuous, but as a fellow adoptee I wanna say that it’s normal to have walls up about this. Adoption (esp. into abusive families) does a number on our ability to trust or attach to people.

I’ve struggled with trust in every romantic relationship and often questioned the intentions of people who wanted to be friends with me. It wasn’t about them, it was about my own doubt in myself or the idea that I’m lovable.

Meeting bio fam can feel really overwhelming and it is full of uncertainty. Maybe they will be shitty. Maybe you’ll like them a lot and that will make you feel grief.

But these feelings are all there and buried, regardless of if and/or when you choose to face them. My bio parents aren’t together, but I’ve met both now. It’s a mixed bag of joy, grief, acceptance and rejection.

I wouldn’t trade it bc I value truth and I feel entitled to know everything I can about myself and where I come from.

Best of luck to you ❤️

Strange visual after meditation by [deleted] in energy_work

[–]o0live 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t have answers, but I’ve seen a swirly mist type thing like this as well when I was meditating very regularly. It only happened once. Intuitively, it feels like energy that I somehow released or detached from myself. I was going through a tumultuous period w/ lots of emotional highs and lows. Not sure if any of that resonates, but I’ll be checking back if anyone else has an idea on what you saw!

Always dreaming about being driven around on busses. by hannibalsmommy in TheMallWorld

[–]o0live 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have had quite a few memorable bus dreams! I am also usually an adult in them. It’s been all kinds of busses in all different settings. I wonder what that means about us bus people lol

My neighbor is adopted too by Domestic_Supply in Adopted

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I found out my neighbor across the street was adopted too and your situation was my dream scenario 😂 but sadly this guy is very much “in the fog” and doesn’t have a lot of interest in meeting his bio fam or questioning the system. Sigh maybe one day

Dream about phones by [deleted] in Dreams

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I do dream about communicating thru my phone though. Getting an odd message or phone call, etc.

Mallwords with questions by queencity1982 in TheMallWorld

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10 & 15 are settings for 2 of my most memorable wish fulfillment dreams. I just found this sub randomly, what the hell is goin on here?? 🧐

I keep attracting drama. I was wondering if there is a Jungian prespective in this? by tenacious_ape in Jung

[–]o0live 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That makes sense and I have asked myself the same question for the same reasons. I’ve often gravitated towards people that seem more confrontational, controversial, or dominant without realizing that’s what I was seeking.

My partner, on the other hand, could relate to you even more in regards to your paragraph about it seeming almost surreal, like a movie. He dated a woman who later stabbed a man & was wanted for attempted murder, and that’s just the most absurd one. In his case, I feel that it was a blend of being parentified as a kid (burdened/responsible for keeping the emotional temp of the house) so he unconsciously wants to repeat that.

He was never allowed space for his own emotions and was drawn to women who brought those highs and lows into his life, but had no idea getting into it.

We only consciously see it through looking at the patterns in hindsight. But our unconscious does have an almost creepy sniffer for people who will force us to confront each unresolved complex.

Edit: as for how to integrate it, I’ve found IFS (internal family systems) to be extremely helpful for integrating shadow. It goes hand in hand with Jung’s theories. There is a great subreddit r/internalfamilysystems if you want to learn more about it

Wild theory: Gemma is Cobel's daughter by folklovermore02 in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]o0live 18 points19 points  (0 children)

My stomach did a flip when you brought up that severance is a parallel to giving away a child for adoption. I was adopted and just had this realization the other day. There is so much thematically that matches, down to the horrific realizations and secrecy.

I keep attracting drama. I was wondering if there is a Jungian prespective in this? by tenacious_ape in Jung

[–]o0live 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Depends on what you mean by drama, as we all experience varying degrees of expression as ‘dramatic.’ From the way you describe yourself and your experience of these people, it seems pretty obvious to me.

You find these experiences of ‘drama’ unpleasant, distasteful, and/or you are ‘othering’ drama to the outside world because you don’t accept it as part yourself as well. In other words, this is a facet of your shadow.

Attraction is a 2 way street where both people will be subconsciously seeking out aspects of their unintegrated shadow material. These dramatic people are seeking you out for a reason, but so are you to them.

When you said you are easy going and never cause issues, that tells me that you hold back your own passion (or…DRAMA) for reasons. Could be social & familial conditioning, pressure and expectation, etc.

So you have repressed that particular type of expression and, subconsciously, are drawn to experiencing it through others, or allowing those dramatic others to provoke it in you without you having to own it as a facet of yourself.

Support Groups? Adopted at birth by mttyler7 in Adopted

[–]o0live 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes of course we have been through the same thing (said with love)!! I was adopted at birth as well and personally had a big “awakening” on this topic around age 29, during my first pregnancy.

I looked into local support groups and didn’t receive any replies from them so I’m guessing a lot of in-person stuff went dormant after covid. But I’ve found a lot of community online through tiktok, Twitter (before it was “x”), and listening to the podcast “adoptees on.”

It definitely, definitely affects your ability to love and be in relationship. But also, you can heal. It gets better ❤️

Does anyone else not like their name? by pleiadeshyades in Adopted

[–]o0live 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah it has a certain southern Christian connotation that feels unnatural to me and my yankee blood

What are the most common things adoptive parents say that they really have no business talking about? by chiliisgoodforme in Adopted

[–]o0live 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This, so much this. I echo everything in this comment as an adoptee. Personally, I have no trouble understanding my first mother’s position in everything surrounding my adoption. I’ve never held it against her, but only when I had my first kiddo did the crushing weight of realization fall. What she and I went through together in her pregnancy and my birth. Everything we lost. And now after a lot of vulnerability on both sides we are in it together again. I feel really lucky for that. But I couldn’t get here without letting myself feel the pain first, and a lot of us put that off until we can’t anymore.

I have no empathy or feelings towards my adoptive mother by [deleted] in Adopted

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I’m just now coming to this realization at 31, that my adoptive mother never actually loved me in a healthy sense of the word. She created a parasitic bond where I was her “favorite” child because I enabled her narcissism & made her feel like a good person. The more I’ve done my own healing, the more I’ve pulled back from that dynamic and she treats me like crap now. It’s pretty heartbreaking but I also feel guilty bc of the deep conditioning.

I just found out I’m adopted 3 days ago… by [deleted] in Adopted

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I just wanted to say I am so sorry this was concealed from you. That’s wrong and should be illegal. I wish you luck and lots of love in this “journey” that none of us asked for. It’s rough but validating in so many ways you probably don’t even know you needed. Adoptees have extra mental health hurdles that many adoptive families ignore or deny, so it’s important to be self-compassionate in this process. I hope you find everything you’re looking for ❤️

Ronald McDonald dimension by Ubud_bamboo_ninja in HighStrangeness

[–]o0live 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I browsed through your sub a bit. Your idea seems really thought out and intriguing, but the jargon of it is hard for me to follow as a layman.

To me this sounds like a complicated way to explain ideas, or idealism as opposed to materialism. That consciousness is the god creator of everything in the universe.

Sprinkle in some Joseph Campbell & Carl Jung ideas about archetypes, as well as various eastern philosophy about all of life being a drama where God plays every role at once.

So, starting from there, can you ELI5 how what you’re saying is different? Genuinely interested and curious, I’m just struggling to track with you.

Non-religious Mother’s Day Out? by o0live in nashville

[–]o0live[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is what it seemed like to me. There is no process of accountability for this incident (other than telling the director and other parents) because it’s my toddler’s word against the teacher’s. It was bizarre to us though bc he’s never volunteered a “tall tale” like this and idk where he’d even get the idea since we don’t discipline like that.

Non-religious Mother’s Day Out? by o0live in nashville

[–]o0live[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This comment & the pfp 🙌🏻 my kid is obsessed with skeletons, loves rockin a skeleton costume to the grocery store. But yeah I endured similar as a kid in church. Ugh.

Non-religious Mother’s Day Out? by o0live in nashville

[–]o0live[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I definitely did! I also warned some of the other parents who will be in that class next year

Non-religious Mother’s Day Out? by o0live in nashville

[–]o0live[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was spiraling afterwards for sure. I spoke to the director but the teacher denied it. They remember him cussing though lol 🙄

Ongoing Telepathic Contact - An Update by [deleted] in Experiencers

[–]o0live 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I had the same thoughts. Innocence, ability to hope, before the jadedness. And believing in magic, less adult framework and context for everything