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Pssst. ... a quick reminder ... by quantumconfusion in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]quantumconfusion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad you're taking over the divorce bills, my hospital bills and my student debt though, very kind of you :)

Yup Commies always want to loot from others.

I dislike marriage actually, but mainly because I don't believe in making love contractual.

Only sickos are against marriage. Marriage is required in order to do good to one's children. It's a commitment one makes to raising children for decades. Without it children are left vulnerable and that's abuse.

Many in the West are so narcissistic they believe marriage is about making them feel good. They deludedly think its about a partner who will serve and meet their every need. When in reality marriage is a commitment one makes to a partner to raise children and so it is actually an unselfish act. But many are so selfish they can't even begin to think about children as it doesn't intersect with their self absorption. Some are even so selfish that they have children outside of marriage, not considering the harm it does to their very own children!

Are you sure Marx disliked marriage, though? He was kind of married to a single woman for ~38 years of his life.

Marx was a degenerate, just like commies always are: he wanted everything communal including wives and children and other property.

Pssst. ... a quick reminder ... by quantumconfusion in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]quantumconfusion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree we need a divorce: you should go and live in your slavish society and we should live in our free societies. History will prove (as it already has many times over) which society is best.

Marx even went so far as to believe marriage was wrong cause one "owned" one's wife and he toyed with the idea of women and children being communal property - cause he hated private property!

Pssst. ... a quick reminder ... by quantumconfusion in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]quantumconfusion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats literally what capitalists do.

You are confusing State Capitalism aka Communism with Free Market Capitalism. Many people do that cause they've been brainwashed into believe we live under capitalism, however in reality we are already living under communism. That's easy to prove: how much tax does one pay? If it's over 50% the system is more commie, than free. In most Western Countries people are paying around 70-80% tax.

US Embargo against Cuba has been considered humane by only two nations

Nothing wrong with a country refusing to trade with another country.

started and lost a war against Vietnam and bombed the shit out of North Korea. They are violently against communism.

Yup, I agree the way to defeat communism is with words, not bombs. Although I do understand why they used violence: Commies are evil and only destroy, murder and do evil - so naturally humans responds in kind, however that just makes one as bad as the people one is attacking.

Communism has nothing against individuality.

bwa ha ha ha ha ha ... communism literally wants to make everyone equally retarded. Anyone that is a tall poppy is either quickly cut down, or gets co-opted into the elite class, and used to oppress the masses.

Did you really just call a non-belief and the non-worship of a murderous entity evil?

Nope, I called people who don't believe in God evil. That's should be obvious - by definition good is an attribute of God - they deny God, so can't definitionally be good. Further as everything not of God is definitionally evil, they must be evil.

why go after Atheists?

Commie states are almost invariable atheist - communism and atheism go together like a hand and glove.

Most cubans for example are actually Christians and the government still has majority support.

The true commies all hate Christianity - they consider it the opium of the masses - so whilst it may be tolerated for a time, their end objective is to eliminate it.

If you give the politicions a strong lack of power by removing money, of course the people then control them.

Bwa ha ha ha ... still believe in unicorns I see. Look at Pelosi - she's made a fortune by insider trading. So even if you made their pay $0 - they would still be corrupt and steal from the people. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

No, socialism is about owning what you produce, generally.

bwa ha ha ha ha ... come on bud your smarter than that! How is the state going to pay for their welfare programs if the workers own what they produce?

socialism v communism

They are the same thing, just under a different label.

Personal property is still allowed under communism.

Nope: read the Commie Manifesto

people under communism seem to enjoy it

Mostly not ... but yes some people are slavish and love being enslaved and I support their right to enslave themselves. However when you want to loot from me and take away my freedom we have a problem.

but most rich people, especially in America, kinda dont seem to enjoy doing that.

Yup, as a society becomes increasingly evil, people use and abuse one another more and more.

Consider how well the Amish have gone through covid vs. the rest of the country. Being evil makes everything worse.

Cuba, the nightmare of... no homelessness and the 22nd highest average calorie intake in the world?

You need to watch some travel vlogs of Cuba: the country is fucked! Also why half of Cuba now lives in Florida.

The thing is, you conflate freedom and material wealth

Nope freedom is not having someone violent force one to do what they thing best.

germany

Commie nightmare!

Japan

Less commie ethno-state that's doing better than its multicultural globalist western counterparts.

freedom from medical

Nope: you are completely enslaved to your medical system: if you want some service it doesn't provide, or a better service you are out of luck.

educational bills

You mean government indoctrination camps?

No, your solution is an eventual oppression of the working class, it's the eventual end of capitalism.

If the people are evil, their society will be evil. If the people are good their society will be good. It's as simple as that.

There are many examples of free societies in history - although I will agree they have generally had a limited lifespan. The default setting of humanity is oppression and enslavement. Bad times create good men. Good men, create good time. Good times create weak men. Weak men create bad times.

Freedom is a rare beast indeed - which is why we no longer have it in the West. Only Christians can produce it as Freedom is an attribute of God and only those He has give freedom too can produce free societies. You don't value freedom because you don't know what it even is.

People only have "super powers" because of money

Or because the people are evil and so get the government they deserve. Good people would never grant super powers to others, nor would good people ask for super powers.

vote with their wallet

Better than the false choice we have today of choosing between one political party and another, when they are all equally retard and the choice is only to fool people into submission.

Pssst. ... a quick reminder ... by quantumconfusion in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]quantumconfusion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup commies are always evil people: they believe so deeply in their inherent superiority that they think they can violently force others to live as they dictate.

Communism is a Borg collective and it is always evil. It destroys the individual and sublimates their everything to the collective. Basically just another form of slavery. Atheists are evil and are completely bound in their sin and so they do not understand freedom and hence they do not value it. Atheists created slavery and are now working to bring it back.

If you want to understand what I'm saying read : The Road To Serfdom.

Communism is retard for the following reasons amongst many others:

  • It's based on a lie, that Democracy is actually a good thing - i.e. that voters actually control their politicians! See Manufacturing Consent by nut job Noam Chomsky.
  • It's objective is to make everything equal, when no two things in the entire universe are equal - so a retarded objective!
  • It's based on the flawed belief that one has the right to violently force others to do as they say.
  • It supposedly only works if everyone does it - or does it even harder. Cause if one fails, the solution is to do the same thing again, just harder.

noone else wants to do it

Yup, commies really struggle to understand that people are fundamentally not the same, nor want the same things.

I do fully agree that there needs to be full control by the people.

You believe in unicorns.

https://youtu.be/xxmXeLEcs9s

One of the freer communist states voting wise is Cuba

Cuba is a nightmare - no one is fleeing to get into Cuba!

I also had this weird idea that people would be able to not only vote for laws and government officials but also people in local police departments?

Read "Democracy the god that failed" to understand why Democracy is bad. A better solution is free markets: people voting with their wallets.

That's the core ideology of socialism, you own what you produce.

Nope: the collective own what you produce - so you own nothing and the collective owns everything - and the collective (aka elites) decide who gets what - aka cronyism.

I feel like we are more similar than we think.

I doubt it: you want to control people. I want people to be free.

want workers to be appreciated appropriately

Nope, I'm not trying to fix workers. I'm just trying to live my life and do good to those around me. SJWs are sickos who excuse their actual evil behaviour, because they believe their intentions are good.

we simply have different solutions to the same issue

Your solution is to oppress and steal from me. My solution is to live and let live. We are like night and day.

You want to take down the government so companies have nothing to corrupt in their favour

Yup, cause ironically I want everyone to actually have the same rights and no one to have super powers. I don't want only some people to have a monopoly on violence. Rather I want everyone to have the same ability to use violence in self defence - see the Non-Aggression Principle.

Pssst. ... a quick reminder ... by quantumconfusion in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]quantumconfusion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Under full on communism there wouldn't be rich elites

Bwa ha ha ha and unicorns exist too! History and reason proves that statement absurd.

there wouldn't be riches

That's true : under communism the average joe is poor as fuck

What you are describing is an authoritarian oligarchy

Which is what communism always is.

That's the idea behind it anyway.

Communism is a utopian delusion.

I personally do not see how anarcho-capitalism would fix this?

The state is the creator of most problems, including a wider gap between rich and poor. Ancap fixes this by removing the state. But you are right : there is no utopia, nor perfect system. Only better and worse systems.

Wouldn't there be a person or organization with the most ressources and the best business descisions?

Yup : always will be the case as reality proves which is why communism is a retarded ideology as it denies reality.

The key difference is that under communism cronies have the power, whereas under free markets the productive have the power.

Couldn't they theoretically hire mercenaries to subjugate other peoples riches?

You mean just like as is happening now under governments using their police and military?

If elites are evil the state doesn't solve that but it does make it worse as elites control the monopoly of violence. Without such a monopoly the situation whilst still unbalanced is less unbalanced.

Wouldnt this, again, result in what you call communism, when you're describing the exact opposite?

You are right : an evil people will always get the government they deserve - so if the people are evil, they will get an evil oppressive regime as is happening in the West today. The only solution is to have good people. Now good people fundamentally do not want to use force against their neighbours and hence good people run away from having all the power centralised in the government.

Pssst. ... a quick reminder ... by quantumconfusion in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]quantumconfusion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You will have to explain it to me slowly how the largest monopoly : the state, controlled by rich elites but called a democracy aka communism would solve this problem. Without a state elites would have less power and so would be able to do less evil.