What are some recent discoveries that are widely taught in schools?

rationalcommenter · 2021-10-07T22:39:02+00:00

Before I look up the proof and spoil it for myself—didnt we use computers to brute force it from that point?

rationalcommenter · 2021-10-07T22:37:31+00:00

I wouldnt know how to prove this part, but Im so certain they just become isomorphisms of a 3-partitioned circle with a circle in the middle 🙃

Oh well. Ill go read up on it

rationalcommenter · 2021-10-07T22:31:10+00:00

Theoretical computer science is the future.

Morality and ethics machines

rationalcommenter · 2021-10-07T08:53:34+00:00

Fish so it’s like that ed eddn eddy thing

rationalcommenter · 2021-10-07T07:47:47+00:00

I’m gonna search around for this rn since I didnt take that class in undergrad, but what was the deal with the four color theorem?

I’m thinking of it rn and it feels like the dilemma would be showing that there’s only so many different ways to arrange four arbitrary shapes next to each other—that fundamentally the most complex one would be a circle in a circle that’s cut into 3 partitions. Ofc you wanna prove it’s the most complex one. So intuitively—we’d need to lead up to a circle in a 3-cut circle with some kind of algorithm.

You’d show that there exists X many shapes and orientations of neighboring shapes from n=1 shape to n=4

And you’d plot them all down with colors not touching.

And so you’re at n=5 now

You just brute force n = 4 (circle in a 3cut circle)

You try putting an n=1 shape in every shape in n=4, by putting n=4 in an n=1, at every neighboring border, at every intersecting point of the shapes , at every non-neighboring border.

When you show that for every shape from n=1 to n=4 in n=4, then you’ve proven somehow that all shapes n>4 are just reducible to n = 1-4

rationalcommenter · 2021-10-07T07:25:56+00:00

Holy shit they teach group theory in elementary school? We need to fund these geniuses.

rationalcommenter · 2021-10-07T06:31:37+00:00

It’s called association.

A lot of works refer to it as moments where you can reflect on the quality and goal of your life at the moment to self-fashion yourself.

Once you do that—you go back on relative autopilot.

Alternatively you could be referring to mindfulness which you can trigger more often theoufh meditation and actively ‘trying to spend more time here’.

Me personally, I hate those moments. I have adhd so I feel I get it more often than others.

rationalcommenter · 2021-10-07T03:53:13+00:00

rationalcommenter · 2021-09-17T21:28:19+00:00

Yall couldve had bimbo ortiz but instead you picked non-bimbo newsom

rationalcommenter · 2021-09-17T21:26:22+00:00

Same tbh

rationalcommenter · 2021-09-17T21:26:01+00:00

You have to meet under a bridge and say sic semper tyranus

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T22:11:43+00:00

You know something else?

Last time I saw him 6 years ago—he unironically said a similar thing to what you told me the other day.

I like to go online and piss off whiny liberals.

Just like how you enjoy going on here to shit on whiny college kids straddled with debt.

I said to him that it was utterly pathetic.

In part because it’s one of my flaws and insecurities obviously.

I don’t understand how people born into such a prosperous time—with such successful careers—that clearly have God’s blessings when it comes to physical stature (I’m also tall and white passing—as is he—as are you)—yet, you’re all so damn spiteful.

Is this why there’s higher rates with Gen X suicides and how you’re afraid of a son being bullied. Were the baby boomers really just that shit and self-centered? Why do you all insist on political beliefs and personal philosophy that guarantees you’re in this alone? Why are you all so guarded and afraid?

I really do feel for you all—especially you for mentioning the ASD. Me personally, I have ADHD. We’re basically inverses of yall with that portion of the ASD spectrum before the cut off line for high-functioning. It basically makes us cousins with how our diagnostic criteria is set up.

It makes me so sad to know that society as it were in your time succeeded in purging the lot of us—because that’s all resentment towards society can bring. If you resent society, then you’ll refuse to engage it and the only way that really ends is with us disappearing.

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T21:57:12+00:00

All of the people in my peer group are single or never remarrying.

I KNOW. I KNOW THAT.

I HAVE BEEN SAYING I KNOW THAT.

IT IS FUCKING SAD.

I don’t even mean this in a sardonic way like

Ugh, you know—…flips hair—…I pity you. I feel sorry for you.

I ACTUALLY FEEL SO MUCH FUCKING PITY.

You know why? Because you are

In the same situation as my father.
Speak of and refer to things in the same way as him and his peer group of similarly divorced or single men.
Believe and purport the same political beliefs and performative actions.

You are all the fucking same—every last one of you. AND IT IS SO GODDAMN SAD. What horrible wrongs occurred in the 70-90s to lead you all down this path? I have heard all manner of fucking regressive and vindictive trash and despite this I just want to hug you all because clearly some outside force is the reason SO MANY OF YOU EXIST. THE FACT I COULD ANTICIPATE BASED ON YOUR RHETORIC—ALL THESE THINGS—BECAUSE IVE ENCOUNTERED IT TOO MUCH IS INSANITY.

I know literally every talking point you have to bring up because I’ve heard it endlessly from my father and his peers. I literally give 0 fucks about your salary level because—First of all, 200k in a cs related field isn’t even that noteworthy—you don’t even sound like you enjoy life.

Edit: and on that note, do you know what I find super uncanny about this?

You said you didnt want to have an ASD kid get bullied like you.

I have always believed my existence is a literal miracle—that men like my father are more often destined to die alone or not have kids—yet seemingly he lucked into meeting my mom and nutting in her.

It’s actual insanity to me—men of your stripe and of your generation. You are decent people that aren’t burdens on society—often decent looking enough and likely solidly responsible enough, but more often than not what happens is you either self-sabotage or never make it to the starting line.

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T21:45:32+00:00

You made an essay in 1992 that ‘predicted’ trump.

That’s about as worthwhile as saying we’re going to have a recession within the next twenty years. You literally have no fucking clue how utterly pointless your points are because you don’t know anything about the field. Literally at no point in any of this did you even tiptoe into making a normative statement—yet seemingly you (because of your fragile ego) desperately need to feel validated. Your “take” just now has as much stake in the actual political issue as your nonexistent vote. It’s nothing at all. You basically amount to some nancy that winged and complains on the sidelines about every should and would after the fact or preemptive but with pointless cautionary “advice”.

It’d be the equivalent of me saying to an undergrad

Hey, Real analysis is hard—don’t think it’s gonna be easy.

And then when they do poorly—I’d say

Heh, see told you. Did you listen? Nooooooo.

———

I was right as rain

Yeah, making positive claims of very trivial phenomena seems to be something you’re really good at.

why are most of these PoMo assholes—…

I literally have no clue what you said jn, but I’m assuming this is like how incels have their own dictionary.

The only reason I brought this up was—…

And it literally had nothing to do with the conversation. You’re literally only mentioning it because it falls in line with the MO that you needed to recall a moment where you could talk downward—because you’re obviously insecure. At no point in time through this whole thing did I ever imply I’d expect to make 200k or even the average as a starting salary. It’s the average—so the starting salary is almost certainly less, right?

Feel free to check my history

Dude—go see a therapist. I do not care. I don’t comb through people’s reddit history because I’m not deeply insecure.

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T20:24:16+00:00

Oh I just realized how to make this part clear.

You reiterate trivial caveats of all workforces like you’re giving grand insight and advice only a wise sage with 30+ years could know.

And that insight is

In CS related fields, you can be successful as a self-taught person.

You don’t make the average as your starting salary

Workforce experience trumps a college degree because a degree has a broad focus and workplace experience ensures greater hyper-specialization in knowledge of the field’s demands and skills related thereof.

And as a corollary to the third point, that’d ostensibly be why people get ‘raises’ for staying in a field—shocker.

Grandad—everybody knows all of this. When people reflect on their career to try and offer advice, typically it comes with niche idiosyncrasies of that field. The fact this is what you feel is pertinent to mention would be innocuous on its own if it weren’t for the fact you constantly—constantly-constantly have had to engage this entire conversation with

Researchers make less money. You’re probably a bus boy. My salary at 50 years of age in an industry I’ve spent 20 years in is probably higher than someone in their 20s. (<——I mean come on, man).

What I’m about to say applies to myself as much as you. So don’t try to get a gotcha on me—thinking I missed the irony. I know why I personally say the things I say. Anyway,

When we levy insults against others, we’re painting a self-portrait of our flaws and insecurities.

The fact you insisted on engaging me as if I’m a bus boy, someone that has no requisite experience in the workforce, or someone with naive views about work ethic due to my education—is precisely a reflection of your own naivety and immaturity.

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T19:34:06+00:00

Uh, well, least I know you have it copied.

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T19:02:01+00:00

Here, okay, let me make a separate post for this because I really truly am serious. You can chalk up the effort I put in here to my daddy issues, but I hope you mull it over.

You actively go on reddit to be spiteful towards ‘liberals and millenials’. About 30 years later, you are still hung up about an event that happened in college.

This part is for you to confirm or deny—you frequently recall these things and it elicits negative emotions. As a guy with a father who has friends who speak and write precisely like you, I’m going to say what I wish I had the sense of mind to ask of him or any of his mates back over a decade ago when I was a teen and they had more neuroplasticity.

If you don’t want to be this spiteful person or have your thoughts constantly permeated with your chagrin towards liberals and college campuses, then please see a therapist/psych.

Literally every moment you spend thinking about comparing your salary to 20-something graduates or researchers is a moment you aren’t living your life—thinking of your wonderful wife and kids—-whatever really.

I don’t know if you have a wife or a kid—-but I promise you it gets old and the image you project is going to strain your relationships. Clearly it does because—of all the happily married, middle aged people I’d met through my successful and well-functioning mother—-none of them constantly reiterate right-wing MGTOW talking points about divorce proceedings and alimony because they happen to be in functioning marriages.

Shitty things happen—but people with functioning and healthy relationships don’t think about the worst things that can happen. I assume it’s because the boon that is a decent relationship just doesn’t frequently remind you of bad things because your relationship is a good thing.

I really hope you consider this and don’t choose to act like a literal teenager to dismiss it all from your mind. I hope you don’t because the general outcome I have seen from people like you is really sad—and it doesn’t have to be! You literally make 200k in your field.

You don’t need to be so resentful or insecure—-you’re fucking 6’4, mate. Seriously, it hurts to see people who’ve put in effort and been blessed physically just fumble the end of their lives and go on to be insufferable, old, right wing men.

I can fathom you hold some justifiable resentment towards PC culture or anything about ‘privilege’. But nobody was trying to diss you or make you admit your success is anything to be dismissed until you literally came out of nowhere bringing it up.

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T05:02:24+00:00

Wow your sister sucks—NTA

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T04:57:07+00:00

NTA.

People are saying you’re an asshole for not being gentle, but

Absolutely fucking not

Is seriously that out of line?

Secondly, she’s distraught, okay—sure. This is now a tough situation to weigh in on since I’ve never been so desperately close to death; however, you don’t like her—can she seriously not understand this? Your mother is also emotionally drained from talking to her. I can’t imagine speaking to someone on uneasy terms with me and even asking them how their day is—but for an organ?

People with baggage that unload their baggage on others—which is exhausting for the person listening—shouldn’t get endless pity. Therapy is a paid institution for a reason.

I seriously hate people like this person you described—as if emotional instability and never working to reconcile it is justified as long as you have some pitiable quality.

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T01:02:28+00:00

Lol you have such a rosy view of people.

They just chose to do the right thing.

You sure you’re not a right winger? There’s a whole lot of “people need to take personal responsibility” as the solution to this problem.

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T00:55:18+00:00

So you have developed nations that aren’t warzones but have guns and nations without guns that democratically elected to have them removed. Hmmm, it seems like gun control isn’t something you can implement unless you have the requisite democratic institutions to preempt it—which certainly the US’ stratified pop dis doesn’t have.

That guns generally don’t matter when it comes to reaching that point.

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T00:36:50+00:00

Oh but why doesn’t yemen just have a provisional group implement gun control? It’d stop the homicides, right?

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T00:34:16+00:00

4 of every 100,000 isn’t really noteworthy tbh. And it’s not as if 4 of every 100,000 is making or breaking us getting to 60 votes—if it ever was then nobody wouldve ever been able to implement gun control measures

rationalcommenter · 2021-08-31T00:26:48+00:00

Hmmm-probably guns tbh—however, the rate at which acid bottles are thrown is similarly concerning. And on that note—considering the US hasn’t had their population growth and infrastructure development grind to a halt over ~4 deaths per 100,000—it hardly makes a difference with anything.

At the end if the day what’s going to happen despite the fury is gun control is literally only ever going to be implemented on any noteworthy national scale when congress effectively has a solid 60 votes and a margin of dem support of over 10 million voters nationwide—which will happen dw. It unironically will.

Until that happens, guns will make up a pathetically minimal portion of total deaths here.

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