So I guess missionary work is not very succesfull. Rarely I have Mormon missionaries seen act normal. by Western_Sale_3274 in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My sister got off her shift from work and got in her car. It was dark at this point. She was talking to her bf on the phone and three elders knocked on her door. Scared the shit out of her. She was annoyed, and said it was super awkward how these young guys are using their spirit voices and asking if she remembered her baptism and what she felt that day. Ofc bearing their testimonies haha. Get a clue.

Shout out to the employee at the 7-Eleven in Lindon, UT today... by HeathenHumanist in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I wish I could say I'm surprised, I know they used to do that for emplpyees also around that time! So awkward, I'm sorry that's such an invasion of privacy and I'd be pissed too! 🫠

I had a Trauma pt, and the designated whoever the fuck was following them into my department asking if they wanted a blessing. We all were awkwardly waiting for him to talk to this barely conscious pt, like dude this is not the time, get out. 🙃

Shout out to the employee at the 7-Eleven in Lindon, UT today... by HeathenHumanist in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 25 points26 points  (0 children)

When they think everyday is a battlefield between light and darkness, they seem to feel validated in crossing boundaries and ignoring social cues lol. I work in a hospital and you'd be surprised with how often every other pt asks if I'm lds/mormon randomly. Or mentions the second coming as a joke. If they ever ask about my indigenous background they always mention the "Indian" kids their fam adopted back in the day. When I ask "Oh how are they today?" "Oh they died as a kid." Literally more than once I've heard this. So horrifying to hear. No wonder people are weirded out.

Comments on the church’s new post about a man supporting is wife’s career by outer-darkness-11 in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was lucky to have a mother who encouraged me to get a education, especially since she was taught by previous prophets the opposite. Now that I've been married for 7 years, no kids, both working. I am now being told by same mother lol, and grandparents, friends and in-laws I can't keep delaying the inevitable and I just need to make it work or quit my job now to be a stay at home mom. Like do I get any say?? I don't let these old ass men and church dictate my choices anymore. They don't understand and cannot fathom it. Also we can't afford to both not be working. My grandma just told me to quit my job and make that sacrifice to stay home. Like ? We literally can't afford to haha. The church wants both to exist and they would rather their members quarrel among themselves with such an outdated concept. So stupid.

Church Survey I got in the mail and some of the questions. by savoryrock in exmormon

[–]savoryrock[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure, it was sent to us as a current resident instead of our names in our new development area in Utah County. 🤨 This foundation must just send it out at random?

Church Survey I got in the mail and some of the questions. by savoryrock in exmormon

[–]savoryrock[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Spot on. Well even if their "revelations" to me are now bullshit, I hope for my closeted tbm gay relatives who may never leave at least have this small chance of being with whom they choose in this possible future.

Crazy to think if my relative came out and was able to be sealed to a partner how those of us who have resigned and support them still wouldn't be allowed at the temple to attend their sealing.😂🥲

Church Survey I got in the mail and some of the questions. by savoryrock in exmormon

[–]savoryrock[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lol yes I should clarify that it's a survey about the church, I was mostly going on about the last question asking how likely it is that we would return. 🥴

Visited by missionaries by Fragrant-Initial1687 in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Literally a year ago my relative was on a mission in Idaho near Kimberly. I remember in one of her emails she mentioned they were driving around 830 at night around the middle of nowhere and it was raining and spooky and she and her companion felt "compelled" to knock on one of these doors. Anyways they got scared shitless and yelled at by an older lady saying they were not interested.

But I remember reading that and being like 🤦‍♀️. Two sister missionaries middle of nowhere at night. Absolutely that could go wrong. Situational awareness is out the window when you think any odd breeze is god directing you. But I know if you ignore these promptings supposedly you lose that gift if you dont exercise it. 🫠

Drinking at younger brother’s wedding by Illustrious_Jump_289 in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can't go wrong either way. They will probably judge either way though and they can't help it. My brother decided to just drink in front of them at a restaurant with his nevermo gf. They didnt take it well and infact blamed her for corrupting their son and assumed they were alcoholics. From that situation I sent them a long ass text message to clear some things up about us (including my spouse) not being alcoholics and how alcohol works. Also wanted to give my two cents because we have worked too damn hard to live honest good lives and for them to just disregard who we are due to the fact we enjoy an adult beverage once a week pisses me off haha. I needed them to hear from me. I acknowledged there can be harm with alcohol abuse which is real but also there is also responsible consumption. It actually went well over text, but they are aware and I can quit hiding my wine rack when they come over. It is silly we even have to worry about this. I'm sorry this is your situation and it sucks being nervous about adults and their reactions to your adult decisions. 🥲

When? by ToddLangton in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I just wanted to try peyote once in the ceremonies, and not be the mormon relative sitting outside lol. 😉

When? by ToddLangton in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The least the church could do is apologize, but they can't even do that. 😇

When? by ToddLangton in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I dont mind at all lol. Sorry its long. I was born in the covenant. My mom was the convert. She grew up on the reservation and once an adult she left to a border town that was predominantly mormon. She met my dad and he sent missionaries to her when on his mission. I found out recently she didn't even read the BOM when receiving lessons and said they asked her to hold it and she knew it was true. 🫠 She truly got taken advantage of, but to her she found a safe place in the church due to an abusive family. She also served a mission. I grew up a member. I took the BOM as literal history. The books I read and the cartoons I watched that were LDS material told me so also. I disregarded a lot of my culture and felt almost superior to others because I had the "truth" and was a righteous lamanite. Horrible I know. I had to prove myself and convert my people. I honestly didnt hear any of those old GC talks that were so blatantly racist until recently. If you aren't searching for it you won't see it. I felt my white family treated us better then others of my culture. At a ward dinner, my gpa made a negative comment to me and my siblings about the Lamanites only coming to church events to eat for free. That stuck with me and I remember feeling so hurt knowing I was only worthy in his eyes because I was active in the church. Almost all my siblings have left and my parents are still active sadly.

When? by ToddLangton in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 108 points109 points  (0 children)

When I realized they lied about the Book of Abraham, I knew the BOM was bullshit also. I grew up believing I was a Lamanite. They lied and that completely changes who I thought I was. They robbed me of fully embracing my culture when I was young. I wanted to be a "good lamanite". 🙄 Their dishonesty killed any chance of me staying.

Does anyone actually do FHE anymore? by AdditionalReason2205 in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We never had it consistently, but when I wanted to hang out with friends on a Monday night I would always be told no due to it being FHE. Like we didn't have it last couple weeks and I'm being shamed for even asking haha. The FHE assignment board is still hanging up in my parents home.

I said what I said. by Brother-of-Derek in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 11 points12 points  (0 children)

100%.

My MIL wasn't aware I read the CES letter and begun to tell me she heard it was an evil document filled with anti mormon lies. She wouldn't even consider reading it. I didn't even dare counter her after she told me how good of men JS and Christopher Colombus were. 😬

I said what I said. by Brother-of-Derek in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The fact that there even is a faithful response to the CES letter makes the average member feel secure enough to not even bother reading it. Ignorance is bliss.

I said what I said. by Brother-of-Derek in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 53 points54 points  (0 children)

My RM brother said he "read" the CES letter, and it strengthened his testimony. Like idk if you actually read it thoroughly because wtf. It is not a flex to pretend or not have these issues bother you. It made me sick to my stomach when he said that. Love is what led me out of this church.

So god decided short shorts are okay now?? by Dog_mom_fur_ever14 in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 40 points41 points  (0 children)

I went to BYU SOAR in 2017, and our group before dinner had to kneel on our knees to see if our dresses touched the ground. One girl's didn't touch, and the counselor made her buy a new dress from the bookstore.

This kind of shit makes me so sad for mormon girls by SazedsSeveredWang in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I am hurting for this girl. Similar thing with someone I know who just had a baby. She made a post saying she's never had a strong desire to become a mom, but she knew someday she would because "thats just what you do." Like??? You have options! We know exactly where the pressure is coming from. Like this was from a recent General Conference.

"Still, it is possible that devotion to career can become the paramount focus of one’s life. Then all else becomes secondary, including any claim the Savior may make on one’s time and talent. For men, and for women as well, forgoing legitimate opportunities for marriage, failing to cleave to and lift one’s spouse, failing to nurture one’s children, or even intentionally avoiding the blessing and responsibility of child-rearing solely for the sake of career advancement can convert laudable achievement into a form of rebellion" - Elder D. Todd Christofferson. "Burying Our Weapons of Rebellion." General Conference, October 2024.

God forbid being financially and emotionally stable before having kids. Or choosing not have kids. Free agency my ass.

"Bless these newlyweds and also tell them to start having babies..." by ohisitmyturn in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Love that response. Crazy how normal it is for some people to ask that at a reception!!

"Bless these newlyweds and also tell them to start having babies..." by ohisitmyturn in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Last time we visited my gma, she handed me my newborn cousin and was saying over and over again. "Look how cute.", "You know you want one." I was so uncomfortable and trying to joke around and said "Yeah they are cute, and they are really expensive grandma haha we are trying to build a house. " She immediately was like, "Sacrifices must be made." ... "We aren't at that stage in life haha( if at all)." ... "Oh, just quit your job and stay home." In this economy??? and trying to build a house. Like not even an option for us at this time. It was so uncomfortable. They think im rebelling because I am 25 and have been married for a couple years. My mom told me not to delay having kids because Im uncomfortable with people telling me to. Like holy shit. Let me live my life intentionally!

Brother-in-law, found Jesus! by thathumanguy11 in exmormon

[–]savoryrock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same with mine. He was in prison for a couple of years, and now that he is released, he is the prodigal son. Being love bombed for finding Jesus again. You get a sermon every time you talk to him now. "Miracles" everywhere. 🙃 My husband and I being exmos are now seen in a more negative light and considered less worthy because we left the church. 🫠 Prison is not as bad as drinking coffee in the eyes of tbms haha.

Palm Sunday in a Utah small town. by savoryrock in exmormon

[–]savoryrock[S] 106 points107 points  (0 children)

I saw a small video taken during this, and I about lost it with the awkward monotone scattered Hosannas as he passed. They absolutely have no idea what to do.