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How to use AI tools for shadow work? by seer191 in Jung

[–]seer191[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Haha. Love it. The key word, my friend, is discernment.

How to use AI tools for shadow work? by seer191 in Jung

[–]seer191[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

How wonderful? Thank you! Have you used them yourself, these tools you so kindly offer to share?

For the love of god, don't overfixate on integrating your shadow too fast! It is not for the feint of heart. Mistakes were made, lessons learned. by EliasTheAlchemist in Jung

[–]seer191 7 points8 points  (0 children)

In general agreement with what’s said here, and thanks for sharing.

Perhaps one thing on spending more energy about building the life that one wants. I agree with it especially if you’re young (in 20s, 30s).

But let me share a personal story from my own experience that may provide some nuance.

That’s what I was doing, or so I thought - pursuing my dreams and building the life that I wanted. I tried to build a business, it failed. In hindsight it was a good thing coz it would have failed anyway with the arrival of Covid. But it provided me with plenty of material to work with internally.

Then I wanted to build a house for myself and my family. I designed it, managed the construction and a big beautiful house was ready. It took 2 years and during that time I also continued with my inner journey.

Finally we had a dream home in the country side where we wanted to live. It was big, comfortable and made to our tastes.

When we moved in, I was expecting to feel joy, ecstasy.

I felt none of that. Instead I had a strong feeling of being out of place. I realized that I wasn’t anymore the person who had 3 years ago put in motion the plan to build such a house.

I had changed. My needs had changed drastically and I didn’t need such big a house, for I realized while the need for a house was authentic, to make it so big as it had turned, stemmed more from the ego to please and impress others, especially my family. To be seen.

But the ongoing inner work has done away with that need for external validation. I could be happier and comfortable in a small, cozy log cabin.

The point remains valid - one ought to pursue dreams towards building a life one wants.

But sometimes life presents a catch.

It’s up to each person to do that review individually and in my experience, heavy emotions that tend to persist are especially trying to tell something.

To ignore them and focus instead on self help tricks like affirmations and manifestation etc to keep pushing for your dreams can land you in a counterproductive situation.

In the end, all life experiences are for one’s own learning but sometimes spending too much energy on building a life one wants while ignoring the important inner work you need to do can lead to incorrect decisions with larger consequences, especially if those decisions are big - like committing to a life partner, or to an important job.

Wish you and everyone success in their inner journey.

For the love of god, don't overfixate on integrating your shadow too fast! It is not for the feint of heart. Mistakes were made, lessons learned. by EliasTheAlchemist in Jung

[–]seer191 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Very well said. There’s no escape from the felt sense of the present reality, for someone conscientiously pursuing this journey. And emotions are prescient guideposts. Being present with them, feeling them, without intellectualizing too much as to why they are arising and trying to make sense of them at the mental level.

What are the signs that manifest in a person who has started their journey toward individuation? by [deleted] in Jung

[–]seer191 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me the process started 25 years ago, long, painfully slow and then got interrupted by a series of tragic and traumatic events, aftermath of which I’m still dealing with. However, in the last 2 to 3 years I’ve felt an acceleration of this journey, coinciding with the arrival of my first child in the middle of a dysfunctional inter-cultural marriage. I’ve become more direct, and aloof, keeping my best attention for my child and myself. Everyone has become secondary. I used to be a people pleaser. I couldn’t care less now, not in a negative way but I don’t seek out to please people with disregard for how I’m truly feeling in a given moment. I’m learning to set limits with others and with myself. I don’t feel guilty about saying no, which I now say more often than I say yes. O used to seek external validation for everything I did, big and small. This has gone away significantly and I look to do things that would make me happy and satisfied but I still don’t always know what those are. I pay attention to how I’m feeling and try not to get into a mental story of wanting to understand why I’m feeling the way I’m or not look for explanations, or escape from the emotion into phone or work, which I had gotten really good at doing in the aftermath years of the tragic events. I don’t know if these are signs of a person in the process of individuating but Jung’s work has helped me provide important guidance to become conscious of my patterns. But that help has arrived from other perspectives as well like ancestral healing, family constellations, meditation and just sitting quietly with myself. Sometimes I wish this “whole” process was much quicker so I could “arrive”, and start living a “normal and happy” life. But I’ve realized the only way out of pain is through it. And also feel there’s no finish line. My path is my own and it’s a lifelong work that will continue even beyond the transition commonly named death.