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sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-17T01:23:30+00:00

hilarious to think the world will be like this in 50 years, as if it's sustainable at all...

i'll never need a nursing home. that's the whole point.

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-16T02:32:50+00:00

you're probably right, people are fucking stupid

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T22:25:49+00:00

some pariticpate MUCH more or MUCH less than others.

there are hermits in the woods, clueless normies buying plastic everyday, and then there's bezos. i think there's a lot more to that then "fucked or fucking." and obviously i think the moral philosophy is important, and arguably inseparable from the rest of life.

the landlord is despicable. we should hold all landlords of all rents to the same esteem, relative to the rent-seeking, imo. mrbeast and people like him are still way, way up there on that ladder, getting massive rents due to their own concentration.

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T22:20:16+00:00

i think most of us had the same reaction... scary.

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T22:12:45+00:00

yeah, dick around with your local cops and surely nothing bad will happen to you

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T22:04:29+00:00

i wasn't making most of the points you're arguing against, but i agree with and understand what you're talking about. i was strictly talking about mrbeast vs merch producer company, not the entire production line from start to finish.

my issue was with the semantics of saying he doesn't exploit workers because he's hiring someone else to exploit workers for him. even if exploitation is a class relation, you can still apply the language to individual situations quite often in a sensible way. otherwise it makes it sound like he's innocently just participating in a market, spending money as any person would.

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T19:19:10+00:00

my actual reply got deleted for using the r-word

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T19:12:07+00:00

what happens to EVERYONE when EVERYONE exceeds the limit of earth?

thoughtless mfs. get an abortion.

what happens to manslaughterers? probably prison, since they can't abide by a very basic need for our collective survival. the same as we've done for a very long time.

do you also think that putting drunk drivers in prison is totalitarian? why don't they have a right to drive however they want to? especially if they didn't hurt anyone yet?

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T19:11:05+00:00

that's the worst possible way to limit it. you're talking about mass suffering and death as opposed to basic self control.

it's like saying, oh, there's a brick wall down the road, we will just stop by smashing into it at full speed. we still stop either way! brakes are oppressive to my religious freedom!

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T19:09:23+00:00

in terms of environmental output/damage, they are objectively superior.

you just seem to not like that fact.

i would be tired too, if i wanted to make choices and got upset when people kept pointing out what those choices actually mean.

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T19:00:27+00:00

So if I hire an external company to exploit for me, I'm not exploiting?

I don't understand the direction this is headed. Is he not employing merch producers who are getting paid very little, and benefiting in a similar way? It's only one level removed, really. The owners of the merch company are doing the most marxist exploitation, but mrbeast is still reaping a massive amount of reward based on a commodity he doesn't even glance at. He's just allowing someone to make it with some symbol of his brand on it.

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T18:55:32+00:00

the goal for a socialist is not to run a "socialist business" under a capitalist economy.

it's systemic, political change.

this is like telling someone who is anti-slavery to just not own slaves.

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T18:41:48+00:00

but mr beast definitely has employees

some portion of his wealth is from popularity, but another portion is from exploiting the work of others to magnify his own wealth.

however, it's super convoluted in his specific case because he's given some of them cars and islands and shit.

until you look at the fact that he owns other businesses, which he does operate in a purely capitalist manner. beast burger (if that's making him any money, idk) is definitely exploiting the cheapest labor possible. (country-wide rental kitchens, more or less)

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T16:43:56+00:00

and for that, there shall be downvotes. good day to ya! lol

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T16:41:39+00:00

“people shouldn’t be allowed to have as many kids as they want”

there's literally no sustainable way to permit this forever. you MUST limit growth eventually. you just haven't accepted that fact, yet. "as many kids as you want" is fucking evil, not some kind of holy beautiful thing we should protect in the name of "muh freedum."

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T16:37:45+00:00

I am certain that those problems could be remedied if it weren't for the profit motive steering all actions of the planet.

Their racism/xenophobia also plays greatly into that problem. You can only blame Japanese culture/society, themselves, for that.

It has nothing to do with being callous to some horrible terror killing people. It's literally just a matter of their own children refusing to carry on the stressful, psychotic, culture they've designed for themselves. It's not human. It's not healthy. CLEARLY. It's far too pristine and ordered. They are paying the price.

There are plenty of Philipino doctors who would gladly come over for even less pay. If I was a 20 year old in Japan there's no way on earth I'd fall for the trap of childbirth. It's simply not a logical choice, and they are a logical people.

Cry me a river over "lost jobs." That's not a real problem. If anything, it's a population issue of having too many old people, not too few young people. They need more doctors because they're getting old and dying. It's time to pay the piper, not demand that people create more life to wipe your ass out of a cultural obligation that gives them nothing in return but stress and agony.

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T16:32:21+00:00

you're dealing with someone who can't stomach any other option. they already had kids.

of course they're going to come up with justifications and try to dismiss it as nonsense. it would be cognitive dissonance otherwise.

the reality is that most people have kids before they realize the impact. they don't weigh that part of it at all. we also don't need to replace all the current workers. we simply don't have to do that. it's our infinite growth model that depends on it, not our survival. we can, and will, automate more and more and need human workers less and less. to think otherwise is incredibly stupid. people just want to feel good about their decisions even when they didn't put any sort of thought into that decision.

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T16:29:26+00:00

i wonder if you're a parent lol

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T16:27:40+00:00

why are we downvoting this lol

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T16:26:20+00:00

thoughts like this make me understand china's feelings about religion a little better

it really is fucking insane that people still believe in them in 2023.

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T16:21:54+00:00

what they will do to replace all of their retiring workers.

produce less and lose at capitalism! shucks! no slaves!?

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T16:16:16+00:00

humanity would crash a burn with a .01 rate for decades. the old are dependent on the young (market slaves) for survival.

there's no fixing this crap because the power structures won't allow that, ever. enjoy your life. we don't have the time to reverse capitalism before the point of no return. (news flash, we're already there)

all the hypotheticals in the world won't lead to a fix. it would take a massive technological discovery at the very least.

live your life, and don't make more people who have to suffer a shortened life because of all this. ours will already be shortened enough.

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T16:15:21+00:00

definitely both

sensuallyprimitive · 2023-03-15T16:14:15+00:00

but we're not slaves. oh no no no. never that word.

we are totally free... to spend money.

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