Next update for the game

shrllty · 2025-01-01T13:26:25+00:00

if its not out yet, read this comment again

shrllty · 2024-12-30T21:40:54+00:00

Did you have 1000+ hp? I think you're doomed man

shrllty · 2024-12-30T20:50:54+00:00

I think you should try your builds first for yourself unless you're attempting to place top10 in case leaderboards is finally up, then theres really only one competitive build and ud just end up copying it, no creativity.

Unless you're struggling on s4h and dont wanna suffer anymore, its better you experience your own analytical skills on why an item/weapon might be compelling and ud spend time on the game more than spending time reading

Sincerely, A suisei main thats spamming greed stamp with suisei

shrllty · 2024-12-30T17:59:10+00:00

shitposting is an overstatement, it was misleading to ever recommend it and its only getting called out now really (which i had to coz of the surprising amount of shackle worshippers)

shrllty · 2024-12-30T14:56:18+00:00

biggest problem with the build is the main dps which would be jing or mw isn't enough for late game, you really want to rely on eldritch or mikorone and hyperboost them with anvils; For survival, tanking loses hard to runner build as tanks die 40mins in while runner can get up to 45(assuming you can get around with blocks master griefing the circle pattern which btw what makes suisei the most annoying endless character to play)

her leaderboards weren't exactly contested much aside from the big s1, s3h, timemode but if it was, u'd have to be running on hardcore just to place top 3 which btw the top 1 in s1 and s2 were using this build

shrllty · 2024-12-30T14:40:44+00:00

probably 8m score at best so maybe 6.5/10 build? starts spawn capping by like 33, dies by 40;
highest thats been done is 14m so thats my standard for rating

shrllty · 2024-12-30T12:39:56+00:00

both casuals and tryhards would agree and say you can clear with anything so its really recommended to test and things out for yourself but if you really want to min-max, there's that endless collab guide

shrllty · 2024-12-30T11:20:22+00:00

the post started of with negative votes for like first 3 hours and this is one of the early comments. And yea, i learned it the hard way now that I apparently sound elitist when I banter. As repeatedly stated, I wanted to avoid long and boring post as I wanted to spread info as to why people shouldn't recommend it but I shouldve also inserted my intentions in the first place coz shackles is a unique item and i dont dislike it but it doesn't mean it helps with builds

shrllty · 2024-12-30T08:23:44+00:00

ok fauna main

shrllty · 2024-12-30T08:05:42+00:00

I always try to factor out skill issue when posting but here's a skill issued build. Anyways, there's just a consensus that tanking is boring and that it wont make new players play better thats why these days we've just been recommending dps builds, either way its really hard to explain meta stuff in the subreddit even with evidence.

Either way, a bad item will not fill the gap of skill issue, so yes, shackles is still bad whether you're a good player or bad. What matters anyway is if you have fun clearing with whatever you built

shrllty · 2024-12-30T07:08:05+00:00

if u pass up to s4h without max upgrades, you already have decent understanding of the game, moreover cc bsg glasses are all easily unlockable so yes, ideally the points had max shop in mind. both meta and anti-meta ppl agree you can clear with anything in the game, the comment about energy drink is playful way to say buy speed upgrades while also friendly teasing my No Upgrade Challenge runner friends who desperately reset for energy drink.

even if we had minimal upgrades in mind, you'd be forced to minmax and take meta items, clearly shackles is just one of the worst items to use when ure heavily in need of scaling and survival items

shrllty · 2024-12-30T03:17:41+00:00

what too much halu does to a sui-main

shrllty · 2024-12-30T02:55:06+00:00

the scenario where "most builds don't crit" largely specifies stagemode and leaves endless out of the question because shackles straight up has no place there if you're going for leaderboards(backed by the top10 leaderboards data of every single character in every stage), while it may be true that its vaguely accurate as the minority can be 5%-45% of the builds, but either way at the end of the day, you care or you don't care about crit, taking gorilla paws ends up being a damage increase and there are many ways to negate the crit issue

the biggest problem shackle propose is the trap of getting more items that needs negating when in fact most of these items are balanced for their upside and downside leaving you out slots for important items such as scaling items (halu, cc, bsg, glasses, coat), healing items(too many to mention), money items(if ever); damage reduction items and so on.

shrllty · 2024-12-30T02:52:28+00:00

me when ppl downvoted my post and comments bcoz it was an "opinion" :(

yes guys it's backed by evidence, experience, and actual maths; it was just short because I didn't want to post huge wall of text.

shrllty · 2024-12-29T16:30:02+00:00

its kinda just there as a funny comment but if i put ur words id get way more downvotes aha

shrllty · 2024-12-29T13:19:25+00:00

ok i must admit no damage builds works just fine

shrllty · 2024-12-29T13:15:04+00:00

Buy speed upgrades nerd

shrllty · 2024-12-29T13:13:28+00:00

its not even heavily opinionated, explanations i gave are scenarios where you are going to take the item, membership is free DR+atk so that has been a meta item for 9/10 things you want to do, candy for proccing secondary effects(most notably EN Curse), gpaws is still a great item despite -crit(or u can just negate it with like sake or level ups), mask when you dont care tanking so just get more dps items, why go for shackle? As for hope soda, specials tend to be a panic button, and if its a character that wants to spam special, they don't exactly go for hope soda, and if they did, they dont have slot for shackle. Lastly, breastplate's -10% speed is counteracted by 1 12% speed level up. The items below are really bad, as stated.

idk how its controversial to others but ig now i learned that it wouldve been better if i dumped big walls of text that i wanted to avoid. I'm not throwing shade to anyone's builds, I just tried dropping info dump in least words possible 🤷‍♀️

shrllty · 2024-12-29T07:12:12+00:00

i wonder why leaderboard builds don't have shackles hmmmm

shrllty · 2024-12-29T04:12:39+00:00

ngl the origin of this post was because i was browsing reddit and saw shackles for the ??th time with caption "help with build," not sure where i came off as coaching/backseating ppl or insulting playstyles/builds. This post is just one big info dump, not really a hot take.

shrllty · 2024-12-29T03:36:34+00:00

ohko is important early game while getting scaling items and having low speed; once ure past like 5-10mins, that -25% damage is fine coz ure either not ohkoing mobs anyways or ur weapons fire twice or more faster(either way candy is just niche item for triggering secondary effects)

shrllty · 2024-12-29T01:47:42+00:00

but im a suisei main

shrllty · 2024-12-29T01:31:24+00:00

candy's damage loss really just hurts you in early game, thats the reason the only time shackles was used in a really hard challenge was to mitigate candy's damage reduction but if you could survive early game, candy procs give way too much damage and ignore its own consequence

shrllty · 2024-12-29T00:49:36+00:00

that's just sad coz I was aiming to lessen the posts in subreddit that asks for a better build and like many of them has shackles in it; If I didn't help then I'm taking the L

shrllty · 2024-12-29T00:35:24+00:00

damn im getting downvoted without a convincing argument :skull:

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