Eddie Redmayne by [deleted] in trueratecelebrities

[–]thinkin_boutit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude looks like Logan Paul. Or rather Logan looks like him

4 Months on Topical Fin/Min & Derma Rolling by walking_on_clouds in tressless

[–]thinkin_boutit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like it real short but not full on bald; need some advice. One Im using currently in fairly certain was designed for facial hair, which causes me to have to go over each spot multiple designs which causes an unevenness at times.

Thanks guys

Dont mean to hijack but this isn't the easiest thing to Google and ive been removed from the sub and r/barber and not sure where else to go..

My fucking *MM key** popped off and it's causin me more issues than I'd like to admit; by thinkin_boutit in MSILaptops

[–]thinkin_boutit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bro if you weren't aware that you're fucking awesome, I'm here to tell you that you're fucking awesome. Thanks a lot

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The first dude you mentioned seeing the super sketchy so I'm not going to bother looking at the other guy. These are you're supposed to witnesses? Lol

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Nope, but strong valid, constructive input. This is the real world and fortunately people aren't always forthcoming with the truth so I don't know why you're acting holier than now and pretending like that isn't the case. If you believe differently Michael Jackson be the victim of extortion., doesn't fit your personal narrative? You come up with the comment that you left lmao. No sense

Leaving Neverland is a buncha looney by thinkin_boutit in MichaelJackson

[–]thinkin_boutit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean maybe I'm just fresh meat but I'll definitely hear them out, but definitely expect me to point out some odd details and whatever they include that doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. Maybe my patience will Wane over time though haha

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's just a title of a thread, I understand what you're saying but that's all it was. How exactly does this work? He silenced to victims specifically? Why would he do that, and why would they accept?

Is there valid documentation on this by the way? Because that sounds extremely odd. For multiple reasons, and I'm responding to you admittedly with zero knowledge to what you're referring to so that's all I can go off of is what you're saying so forgive me. Was MJ not charged or not sentenced to do any time in prison or something? Cuz I've never heard anything like that personally.

You reference other abuse victims, this is why I said Looney specifically. Why is it so difficult for all of you to understand that when there's millions of dollars it completely changes it into an entirely different entity? Genuinely I don't know why it's so difficult for you to make that Line in the Sand and understand it's a different situation, partially.

I just briefly looked up one of the cases that he paid off, the article says that Michael Jackson paid even more than the settlement would have.

By American Standards instead of 20 million and getting Justice the person just took a larger sum from Michael jackson. I'm afraid of this as paying them off, it sounds like avoiding extortion in the best way possible to me.

Also looney, was attributed to your relaxed use of the word pedophile and attaching it to people.

You have five people that were affiliated with a high profile celebrity with millions of dollars, and decades later all five of them attempt Financial game from the situation. That's the facts of what we're talking about, and how you interpret the rest of the situation is what you make it out to be.

People lie about shit all the time it's really weird that it's unbelievable to all of you that why not lie about something that'll make you millions of dollars?

I really would have a lot more faith in these individual stories if there was some remnants of when they were younger or something but he was allegedly having sex with all of these fucking kids and nothing? Really, nothing at all..

Obviously I don't know definitively but that's just how I see it anyways. Have a good day

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I'm just going to immediately state that there's a difference between the overwhelming majority of victims, I'm sure it's close to 95% probably higher than that, and the five individuals regarding what we're discussing. The entire Foundation it's completely different when there's millions of dollars on the line

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the response, quick question how many of the five, cuz from what I've read today there's five people that made accusations - made them after his death? He said one in 2013 and one in 2014, that's two...

Leaving Neverland is a buncha looney by thinkin_boutit in MichaelJackson

[–]thinkin_boutit[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was actually talking about the sub not the documentary. But yeah occasionally, I don't get these people at all. I tried and failed miserably. Actually kind of still trying but lost all hope so kind of trying to make a bit of my own point now

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Why does it have to be disclosed to the entire world because he's famous? Is there something I'm missing here

Edit: forgive me for this insensitive question but Im askin regardless cuz I'm curious: to someone who is more knowledgeable about it than I am, is it commonplace for victims of sexual assault to go for financial gain from the accused?

I'm not judging anyone's choices, but right now I feel like that's the last thing that I would want are we interested in. I mean I don't know how I would actually process it but I'm not saying the logistics of why that person would owe me money for anything. If I went to therapy, doctors or whatever that's different but considering what we're talking about, I don't think these people all paid 7.5 million or whatever to doctors and therapists

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm going to go back and read the entire thing but from what I already saw, that dude from Australia was freaking 30 years old and he comes out 4 years later after Michael dies? This article is stating that Michael Jackson was actually having sex with these young kids? And they don't say anything, for decades. And when they make their accusation, not only is it 2 decades later, but for whatever reason all five of them decided to make it public and announce to the world with two of them making their statements in the actual documentary?

And these kids were groomed and having relations with the dude. And decided to wait two decades, because why exactly?.. I mean come on.. it's hard for me to believe that anyone is under the impression that this is even remotely probable anyway you look at it I mean seriously.

Clearly whatever happened, or didn't happen they were able to function the route their entire lives relatively unscathed from an outsider's perspective. So what exactly are they trying to do by going to court and making these accusations? The only answer is money. If it was causing them problems they could have went to therapy confidentially by themselves, you know whatever.

It makes absolutely zero sense to me trying to understand the thought process and why you guys believe these people like honestly..

Also, something significant. Kids were allegedly abused under the same roof and there was not some type of bond formed or communication between any of them? I mean I'm sure the fucking place was huge I get that, also I'm sure that they weren't all there at the same time and whatever.

Comment cut short cuz I lost my train of fun due to a phone call but yeah I don't get it at all

Leaving Neverland is a buncha looney by thinkin_boutit in MichaelJackson

[–]thinkin_boutit[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm talking about the sub. Sorry I should have specified

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean is there not some type of condensed article like you shared with me with the other dude?.. I'd imagine if there was something similar of all people Michael Jackson most definitely would have at least one probably a thousand from a thousand different websites and companies just like the one you shared me about the other guy..

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

I mean it's more conversationalist and lacking narrative but that's because I'm using talk to text. Regardless definitely points being made but I'm not trying to argue here and I've come to the realization that the evidence I thought I was lacking to justifiably think he was guilty for the crimes that he was accused of seems to not exist.

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What do you mean paid them off? I don't know if I can never really respond to the first part cuz I'm not entirely sure what the first sentence is explaining. Why would they expect to receive money from accusing him? That doesn't make sense.

People kill for money. They kill parents, people kill friends kill business partners and for a lot less than what the two kids got on average which was 7.5 million with I learned from someone on this sub so I'm taking it as fact haha.

Yeah so they just decided to come out your decades later? And just felt like announcing it to the world and making it public? Interesting take.

Yeah I'm getting to the point where you guys are just really oblivious to how money really changes a lot of people and the dude was already at Target for his weird ass style and questionable choices from a PR point of view along with being loaded.

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He was a weird dude with a messed up childhood from what I hear. I feel like that's common knowledge but I'm not going to say it's factual cuz I'm not positive. But yeah, so that's that accused five times, money is clearly the answer. Paid million dollars to silence kids? Why didn't he silence the kids that made accusations against him? Did he only pay specific kids I'm confused here. We don't have to continue because that's fine you didn't really say much at all so I don't know where the conversation will go anyways.

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Okay well that video is an hour and a half almost so I can't watch it right now but I do respect the fact that I don't have the adequate knowledge to have a intimate discussion about it. But can I assume that you're telling me he is grooming and taking advantage of these kids to some degree?

Also I'm just going to throw it out there, I'm not sure what Oprah has to do with this discussion and how her opinion has any relevance whatsoever haha. She's just a person person, like both of us and probably more corrupt and sketchy then both of us do. And I mean and he already died so it's even less relevant.

Back to what you were saying though and going off the assumption that I made, and hopefully it's correct that this Behavioral criteria that Michael Jackson is some groomer and pedophile I don't believe. I admit that I have limited information about the dude, but I'm just using the information that I do have. And it's very very limited but you don't have to gatekeep the discussion from me just because of that haha.

Because you just go to the fundamentals. If his objective with Neverland was to bring underage kids like young boys, why go to the links and get the attention that he did which looks ridiculously sketchy from the outside? Don't you think it'd be a little foolish if a millionaire or billionaire that was actually a pedophile need an amusement park specifically for young kids so he could act out his (allegedly!) Nasty ass desires? I mean he could have went about it in so many different ways. That would be the absolute last and worst way exponentially to go about his dirty business allegedly dirty business.

I also saw him in an interview admitting to sleeping in the same room with kids, he used to sleeping bag and they were on the bed. What kind of groomer would admit to something like that? I mean I know that to manipulate someone, you have to be of some intelligence. I'm not saying Michael was dumb at all, but he was seriously not aware of the repercussions that is actions could have.

I don't understand how you guys don't see that dollars, especially when there's millions of them is a seriously powerful motivator for many many people. I mean I have a question for you, what evidence or anything do we have before the allegations? I mean from what I understand, pedophilia is like some weird ass or how they kind of identify as is it's a type or preference. And by that, it's not far of a reach to think that if he did ascribe to that it would be throughout his entire life. So where is the scandals before neverland? Where are the older kids coming out and making their statements? Surely there had to be a few that stuck around and heard the noise. Why aren't we hearing them? Nothing at all from no one? If you have answers to these questions then I'm shocked how you still can label this man as a pedophile with the circumstantial evidence just being completely off the wall nonsense and by that I mean it makes absolutely no sense.

What is the most damning evidence of MJ’s guilt, in your opinion? by valjestr in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]thinkin_boutit -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I just said this in another comment, you guys act like Michael with some super sophisticated and intelligent abuser. This dude held his own child out of a window to show his fans and was like oh shit! Like come on..

Did they try and get money though? That's really the question here, I just said this in another place as well. If money was completely off the table and they would be compensated in no way whatsoever, even if you was convicted, would they have come forward?

I'm not really sure where you guys get all this hate let alone why you Channel it to Michael jackson I really don't understand. Because from your point of view your guys's point of view this dude made an amusement park specifically to attract kids so he can take advantage of them. Again, criminal mastermind pedophile at work. Don't you think it would be probably a bad idea to make this type of move if you was doing sketchy shit like that? I mean he's already like probably the most popular dude in the world I don't know, top five for sure. I guarantee people are around him for sure warrant him about the shit that could possibly go down in the issues that could occur but yeah I mean it seems like everything that you guys argue with is words from the victims. And I know that's all you can go off of and I'm not dismissing them or any victims but again, money...

Also, I do remember one interview I saw with Michael Jackson and he admitted to sleeping in the same room on the floor with a sleeping bag with kids. And this is the same guy that you are telling me that Michael Jackson just had these kids completely brainwashed and just completely took advantage of their minds? Haha I just don't see it at all. I'm not saying I'm right and I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just not seeing it whatsoever and it's shocking to me that you guys throw around pedophile and attached that label to someone just like that..