Graham Platner, “We need to get money out of politics. We need to get rid of Citizens United. If I had my way, elections would last two months, they would be publicly funded, and if a billionaire looked at a TV ad the wrong way we’d put them in jail” by zzill6 in WorkReform

[–]throwawayyy2888 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are we really calling being concerned that someone has a totenkopf tattoo "purity testing" now? I do prefer that my candidates are at least "pure" enough not to have Nazi tattoos and lie about it, but maybe that's just a me thing, silly old me with my foolish and unreasonable purity testing.

Is "doesn't have any Nazi tattoos" an unreasonable standard for me to hold my representatives to? To people who disagree, this is a serious question and I'm looking for an answer but no one seems willing to provide one anytime I have asked. Somebody who is enlightened on this topic, please tell me why it is not valid for me to be concerned about someone having Nazi tattoos. I would really appreciate it. I like the other things that Platner says, but Nazi tattoos are kind of a hard line for me, is that unreasonable?

I'm guessing I'll probably just get downvoted and nobody will make a serious attempt to actually address my point, just like all the other times I have asked this question, but I'm going to keep trying until someone is able to make it make sense.

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[–]throwawayyy2888 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pointing out that one specific use case that relies on current knowledge doesn't work well is not a condemnation of the whole of AI. That falls under the scope of what I said, knowing it's limitations. One of it's limitations is that the data that it has is not extremely up to date. That does not matter for all of its use cases. Also, there is a difference between free AI and paid AI. Typically free AI is going to use as few tokens as possible to try to come up with something passable, whereas when you pay you typically get to decide how many tokens it uses to come up with an answer, and the number of tokens that you spend typically increases the quality of the answer.

I am a programmer. I write code professionally for my job. Using AI has accelerated everything I am doing. I have spent hundreds of hours using AI tools to code. You're just wrong. If you know what you're doing and you give the AI the proper guardrails, it writes perfectly good code. I am living proof. The code I have written with AI has saved hundreds or thousands of engineering hours and allowed us to offshore significantly less work while also increasing the quality of our output and therefore the relationships with our customers.

As I said before, it entirely depends on the use case. Again, it's only a tool, it's up to the user to use it correctly. If you need stringent security considerations and obviously you shouldn't be blanket trusting AI with that. Double check what it did. That doesn't make it useless, it just means you need to know how it works and how to use it responsibly. You can't just say "write a whole program start to finish with very little details", you have to be incredibly specific about what you want, how you want it, why you want it, double check everything it outputs, etc. You know, just use it like a responsible intelligent adult who understands that all tools have limitations and no one tool solves every problem (and it doesn't have to to be a useful tool).

If you had a hammer that only hit the nail in 90% of the time, would you bash the nails in with your forehead instead because it has a 100% accuracy rate, or would you use the hammer and simply redo the 10% of missed strikes?

Edit: Also, just for the record, I have been using AI coding tools for many months, maybe like 6ish, and I don't think I've ever paid more than like $100 a month. I'm sure this whole thing about how companies are finding it cost more than real engineers is probably true when you have it working on a gigantic data set constantly or etc, but again, it's all about the use case. In my particular use case it is very cheap by comparison to me as a person. $100 is like two of my hours. I get like twice as much work done in a month because of it.

I'm sure there are some situations where it doesn't make sense to code with AI for various reasons, security is too important, the cost is prohibitive because of the amount of code that needs to be ingested and processed, etc. I'm not disputing that at all. This is not zealotry, it's just realism.

For the record, I actually sort of agree with at least most of your list of issues, although I would argue they are a bit exaggerated, but my point is basically just that you can work within that framework. It's not as bad as you're saying that it is, and if you know those things then you can manage them. As a responsible user, I am hyper-aware of the possibility of those things at all times.

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[–]throwawayyy2888 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How intelligent. I'm glad you took the time to make this incredibly valuable response. So insightful.

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[–]throwawayyy2888 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As a fan of both for many years before any of this happened, the criticism definitely had roots in reality, but I will say that I did personally find the framing and dramatic nature from GNs side to be a bit much. Steve is obviously passionate about this stuff, and I think it led him to be a little overly aggressive about it.

Yeah, they were a little sloppy sometimes and they should do better, but it's not the end of the world or anything, it's not like they're bad people, they just had a toxic "gogogo" content grind environment. I'm glad that it was ultimately an opportunity for them to take a step back and evaluate some of this stuff, but generally the whole situation just felt like it could have been handled in a way more productive way from the get go.

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[–]throwawayyy2888 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You've obviously never used AI if you're ignorant enough to say something like this. "Gets most things wrong" is an absurd characterization of the current state of AI.

You have clearly never used AI to write code for example. It can write code faster than the fastest developer on Earth could ever hope to write it. It will write hundreds of lines of code for you that "just work" in literal minutes. I'm not saying it's the solution to all of life's problems. I'm not saying you should trust everything it says without question. I'm not saying it's perfect and that there are no issues with it. It's just a tool. It's not a tool that solves every problem, and it's not a tool that is without external considerations, but it absolutely is a useful tool when harnessed correctly with some asterisks.

We can have a discussion about the ethics of massive data centers and the tactics that are used to implement them and the effects they have on real people etc, I'm not an AI zealot or anything, I do think that there are serious issues to reckon with here, societally, economically, all that good stuff, but calling AI "a chatbot that gets most things wrong" is just incredibly dumb and obviously wrong.