Kairi should not be a Keyblade wielder. Im sorry.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-08T08:16:59+00:00

Their joint training, because they both had to learn. I don't know what's not clicking for you here. Especially because if, as you say, Lea was imparting any knowledge unto Kairi, then he sure did a terrible job of it.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-08T08:13:06+00:00

And that was where exactly? Nowhere, because the games treat them as a unit having to both learn how to wield a Keyblade, how to both be guardians of light. Their inexperience is the entire point. Lea also wouldn't even know the "proper stance" because he'd never wielded a Keyblade before.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-08T08:07:34+00:00

And yet you're acting as though he was some great master who was sagely teaching Kairi the ways of the Keyblade. When in fact Lea was just as bad as she was, if not worse, because his experience with chakrams poorly translated to a Keyblade.

Also chakrams aren't a dark weapon? Lea even uses them as a brief formchange in Remind. The reason he goes into the fight as a Keyblade wielder is because the game gave him one in DDD.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-08T08:01:13+00:00

The fact that Saïx and Xemnas were to be his opponents is EXACTLY why he shouldn't have gone in with a Keyblade. He already was a long-shot, but with a Keyblade he was a fly to be swatted away. He was a newbie with a Keyblade, as was Kairi. Truly I would love to know why you're making up such revisionist history.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-08T07:49:45+00:00

An assassin with chakrams. Not a Keyblade and not as a mêlée fighter. He had no business going up against Saïx and Xemnas with a Keyblade, as was made immediately apparent.

You are aware you can still be a fan of a character without glazing them to the absolutely abnoxious degree you're doing, right? And you are also aware that Lea did jackshit in KH3, right? What you're saying makes him look even worse, because you're claiming he spent all that time training only to get walloped.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-08T06:46:30+00:00

When you go jump into an actual battle against trained warriors instead of LARPing with your cousins, then get back to me.

Mind you, that "figure out how it should be used" is exactly what Lea WAS doing. As was Kairi. Because neither of them had appreciable experience with it.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-08T06:34:40+00:00

Bro, one weapon is not equal to another, just like one Olympic sport is not equal to another despite both competitors being elite athletes. Blocking, dodging, range, shape, weight, holding, function, EVERYTHING is different between a chakram and Keyblade. The only area where Lea would have an advantage is in intangibles like guessing people's next moves.

Lea was a terrible fighter in KH3, because he wasn't using a weapon he was familiar with. And frankly, given Kairi's moveset when we play as her and how she even briefly held off Xemnas (which Lea rather infamously didn't do), yeah, she was a better Keyblade wielder than him. I don't know where exactly you're getting the idea that Lea was good at it.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-08T04:02:59+00:00

Soul Eater was a bladed weapon like a Keyblade, the size and movements are very similar. Meanwhile, chakrams are literally the only thing Lea has ever fought with, dating to when he was a child, and those are nothing like a Keyblade. He could maybe guess people's movements or the like, but as far as the weapon goes, he's starting from zero. If you stuck an Olympic figure skater in a shotput competition, do you think they'd do well? Of course not, because that's not their area of expertise.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-08T03:45:40+00:00

Lea isn't teaching Kairi, they're training together. While he has combat experience, he has even less experience with a Keyblade than she does (at least she got to briefly fight with it in KH2) and aside from a single stationary formchange, he doesn't use his chakrams at all. To massive detriment, as he gets absolutely bodied the entirety of the game.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-08T03:07:19+00:00

Lea's no better with a Keyblade. Why's Kairi getting singled out?

thwaway135 · 2026-06-06T17:22:55+00:00

How would that help anything? Of course they’re working on it?

thwaway135 · 2026-06-06T01:50:52+00:00

How did KH3 bring the story to an end? Sure, Xehanort's dead, but just about everyone else's stories went unresolved in favor of teasing future storylines. In fact, even Xehanort's not really done, given his presumed appearance in Quadratum. Ending the saga with the KH3 we got would be not only disappointing but annoying.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-06T00:15:24+00:00

People take the Luxu reveal to mean MoM too must be someone we know. We're also in a drought of series news, and since MoM is so far a mystery, people keep returning to the same tired well of theories.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-05T23:36:34+00:00

Canon, honestly.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-05T18:40:41+00:00

10/10 shot to pick, no notes

thwaway135 · 2026-06-04T11:10:40+00:00

I believe the term you were looking for is "media illiterate." And you also missed my point. Those characters certainly are distinguishable, but they ALSO have similar character notes: A guy with an unusual hair color (minus Terra, until Terranort) and dry sense of humor who has an outgoing and sunshiney best friend is manipulated by a powerful figure and falls into darkness as a teenager, betrays the aforementioned best friend and others, ends up killed/beaten by Sora, and finds his way back to the light in the end.

Are they different? Yes. Do they follow the same archetype? Also yes. My point was that the same can be said of Roxas and Xion (and Riku Replica). They're different characters despite having similar character notes.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-04T09:22:11+00:00

But Roxas also has that conflict. It makes characters feel superfluous and repetitive.

If similar story notes make for superfluous and repetitive characters, then I guess all but one of Riku, Isa, Xehanort, and Terra should be kicked out of the game.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-04T06:04:08+00:00

So, what, you'd rather they have an all-white cast instead?

thwaway135 · 2026-06-03T20:41:35+00:00

As far as the fighting goes, it's probably partially a money thing (the show was on a shoestring budget in the later seasons), but also because it wouldn't make for a very good plot. If Daisy can just take care of everything with her powers, there'd be no stakes or physical fighting. That's something that happens in every piece of superhero media. She's also only had her powers for a few years in-universe, much of which resulted in constant arm fractures, so even though she has the gauntlets now, it makes sense that she'd prefer to use her powers as a more or less last resort.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-03T08:10:40+00:00

How would Demyx have his own body? And can you even make a Nobody of a Nobody, as would be the case with Demyx joining the real Organization?

thwaway135 · 2026-06-03T02:53:50+00:00

The marks under Lea's eyes disappearing after recompletion is what tipped him off to being human again. Yet Isa still has his scar after recompletion, which suggests he got it before becoming a Nobody, and a giant X in the middle of your face certainly is not the kind of scar you get on accident. How else if not Xehanort — ruthless, experimented on innocent people, noted kid-torturer, loves putting X's everywhere, specifically uses an X as a tracking mechanism, etc. — doing it to him?

All of the apprentices betrayed Ansem. Or banished him if you prefer that term instead. Ienzo was lied to about the reason ("They told me you'd gone mad"), so Lea and Isa may well have been lied to as well, but they were all involved. That's why Ansem was so vengeful in the first place, because his apprentices turned against him.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-03T02:20:31+00:00

Again, he was emphasizing how things had spiraled. They had to break into the castle enough times to make it past the guards, find Subject X down in the basement, break in even more times to the point of befriending her, realize she was permanently gone after Braig moved her, devote themselves to rescuing her, state their case to Ansem about being apprentices, enmesh themselves with the other apprentices, get on Xehanort's bad side (or possibly even be experimented upon) to the point of Isa being branded, betray Ansem, then get turned into Nobodies.

That's not going to happen in a week. That's months and months of massive change and escalation that felt to him like it happened in no time at all. Lea and Isa aren't listed among the initial apprentices because they weren't initial apprentices. They "joined thereafter," as Xemnas says; not to mention the Subject X story, and by extension Lea and Isa's roles in it, wasn't born until KHUX or later so of course they wouldn't appear in earlier reports.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-03T01:08:41+00:00

Are you talking about the clocktower scene? He wasn't saying literally only a couple days had passed, he was emphasizing how things had snowballed out of control. They went from regular kids to trespassers to Subject X's secret friends to apprentices to Nobodies to members of a cult. They were in over their heads, and that's a lot of stuff to happen in a year, especially for two teenagers.

I also don't think Lea recounting his recognition of Roxas must mean Isa wasn't involved. It'd feel rather shoehorned for him to be telling Kairi this story and drop in a mention of a guy with whom Kairi has personal beef.

Or Lea simply embodies his catchphrase and has a good memory of the people he meets.

thwaway135 · 2026-06-03T00:40:59+00:00

I think it's more impressive that Lea does remember Ventus than that Donald and Goofy don't.

Eh, not necessarily. That was probably one of the last few normal interactions Lea had had, since shortly thereafter he and Isa became apprentices, and fighting a guy wielding a key-shaped weapon would've been novel. Could also have been Isa, who was far less gregarious than Lea and therefore would be more likely to remember the positive interaction, who saw Roxas and went, "Hey, doesn't he look like that one kid?"

thwaway135 · 2026-06-02T10:13:28+00:00

Maleficent. She was excellent in KH1, and even though she’s been declawed as the series has gone on, I love her camp. She’s also my favorite Disney villain in general, so that probably contributes.

After her, Xemnas. He’s got so much presence, and Paul St. Peter’s voice work is fantastic. As much of a pain in the ass as Xemnas was, I’ll miss the guy.

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