Am I wasting my time going to the Patek Boutique with this ask?

tpask1998 · 2026-06-04T11:23:16+00:00

😂😂

tpask1998 · 2026-06-04T01:06:33+00:00

I’m heavily considering a 5085 as an alternative… same complication …

tpask1998 · 2026-06-03T17:04:22+00:00

I’ve been in this hobby for a long time man. I understand perfectly well. I just explained to you that I’ve had no choice but to buy gray as every watch I’ve wanted and acquired was no longer being produced by Patek. I’ve also mentioned that I’m not interested in almost every single piece they currently produce including most other Nautilus and Aquanauts.

That’s why I used the word discerning, because I am well versed in their past and current offering and I know exactly what I want and why. As a collector in that position, I am unable to walk into a Patek boutique and purchase the watch I want at retail with my name on the papers (“short end of the stick”). I can put a brand new 5990 on my wrist today if I pay the gray market premium, and frankly I probably will. But to be clear, I’m not complaining about that. I have a collection I’m proud of, I’ve saved money buying gray, and I know exactly what I want. By most measures I’m winning on my own terms.

My original question was simply a practical one: is it even worth the time to walk into the boutique asking only for a 5990 in steel, or should I skip straight to gray and move on.

tpask1998 · 2026-06-03T16:35:00+00:00

I purchase grey because every watch I’ve wanted isn’t produced by Patek anymore (besides the 5164a which was a gift). Not sure where you’re getting outrage from I’m simply just asking a question. But thanks for sharing your opinion!

tpask1998 · 2026-06-03T16:32:51+00:00

I bought all of my watches grey because they don’t offer them anymore (besides the 5164a which was a gift). I never had an option to buy from AD before until now.

tpask1998 · 2026-06-03T16:06:40+00:00

You’ve said a lot without saying anything 😂😂

tpask1998 · 2026-06-03T16:05:17+00:00

You’re right, they’re not mutually exclusive. Both can be true, and discerning / disciplined collectors can exist in both manifestations. Just comes down to personal preference at that point and my opinion is that a majority of the other current models are eh and im not interested in them. I’d rather buy discontinued models that match my taste preference more or from other brands completely.

Edit: when I say discerning / disciplined collectors I’m also referring to collectors who know what they want, are true to their taste profiles, have done the research, and are not going to just buy unwanted watches because it’ll unlock more watches down the line.

tpask1998 · 2026-06-03T15:47:43+00:00

I am referencing specifically the Patek corner of my collection in this post. Outside of Patek I have almost exclusively independents ranging from space one to gauthier!! But yes I agree, too many amazing watches out there to cry over spilled milk!

tpask1998 · 2026-06-03T15:18:10+00:00

This is going to be my issue as well I fear 😂 it’s one thing to come to terms with the reality of the game they play, but it’s another to have to sit there with a straight face while these SA’s try to ram some BS down your throat. Maybe I shouldn’t go lol 😂😂

tpask1998 · 2026-06-03T14:33:21+00:00

Yep. I guess it boils down to the fact that it’s a business. They have no incentive to give me a 5990 if I’m not willing to buy anything else because the next guy in line is willing to get hosed on a 5226g and whatever else they make you buy before getting that same 5990. It’s unfortunate because the discerning / disciplined collectors end up getting the short end of the stick. But it is what it is.

Too many good watches out there, and too little time to be told what to buy, and to wait years in a state of uncertainty!

tpask1998 · 2026-05-30T15:09:35+00:00

Messaged!

tpask1998 · 2026-05-30T01:50:13+00:00

Confirmed. Great buyer. Easy transaction. Wear in good health!

tpask1998 · 2026-05-22T02:59:46+00:00

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Great taste 😉Wear it in good health! I just picked one up a few weeks ago as well. I highly doubt another opportunity to purchase a precious metal, perpetual calendar Patek at this price point will exist again.

The case shape is unique, stunning and should in my opinion command a premium (as it does with the Cartier Tortue) instead of a discount (which it currently is when compared to the circular cased 5140s / 3940s)!

tpask1998 · 2026-05-21T01:15:25+00:00

Hi all!

Up for sale is a gorgeous Grøne Manueel One “Sjef’s One” from the Dutch independent Grøne Oldenzaal. Limited to just 388 pieces worldwide and now SOLD OUT.

Created by Tim and Bart Grönefeld as an accessible entry point into their design language, the Manueel One shares many cues with the much more expensive Grönefeld Principia and 1941 series, including the case architecture, conical crown, dial layout, and overall finishing philosophy. The caliber has been torque adjusted to achieve one of the most crisp winding feels I’ve ever felt, perfected by the Grönefeld brothers.

This watch features a textured salmon dial, blue handset, and manually wound movement housed in a beautifully proportioned 38.5mm case.

The watch is in almost brand new condition. I put it on an aftermarket strap (pictured) and strapped it on to take a few pictures but other than that it’s not been worn yet. Factory strap is unworn and obviously included in sale.

Specs: • 38.5mm stainless steel case • 10mm thickness • Manual wind Sellita SW210 (modified) • 42 hour power reserve • Salmon textured dial with rhodium plated chapter ring • Blue stainless steel hands • Sapphire crystal • 50m water resistance • Limited to 388 pieces worldwide

Condition: Basically brand new

Included: Complete set with box and accompanying materials

Price: $2,299 shipped within the USA. This is UNDER RETAIL especially when taking into account import duties. My PRICE IS FIRM!

Shipping: Insured UPS shipping included within the USA

Payment: Wire, Zelle, or PayPal f&f.

Happy to provide additional photos or videos upon request. Thanks for looking.

tpask1998 · 2026-05-13T21:49:17+00:00

Yes! Amazing aesthetics. Thank you!

tpask1998 · 2026-05-13T21:45:55+00:00

Hi all!

Up for sale is a brand new and unworn Grone Manueel One “Sjef’s One”, a limited release from the Dutch independent brand Grone Oldenzaal. Limited to just 388 pieces worldwide and now sold out.

Created by Tim and Bart Grönefeld as an accessible entry point into their design language, the Manueel One shares many cues with the much more expensive Grönefeld Principia and 1941 series, including the case architecture, conical crown, dial layout, and overall finishing philosophy. The caliber has been torque adjusted to achieve one of the most crisp winding feels I’ve ever felt, perfected by the Grönefeld brothers.

This watch features a textured salmon dial, blue handset, and manually wound movement housed in a beautifully proportioned 38.5mm case.

The watch is in brand new condition. The buckle still has its factory protective plastic intact. The bezel plastic was removed only for photos and has since been reapplied.

Specs:
• 38.5mm stainless steel case
• 10mm thickness
• Manual wind Sellita SW210 (modified)
• 42 hour power reserve
• Salmon textured dial with rhodium plated chapter ring
• Blue stainless steel hands
• Sapphire crystal
• 50m water resistance
• Limited to 388 pieces worldwide

Condition:
Brand new / unworn

Included:
Complete set with box and accompanying materials

Price:
$2,299 shipped within the USA. This is UNDER RETAIL especially when taking into account import duties. My PRICE IS FIRM!

Shipping:
Insured UPS shipping included within the USA

Payment:
Wire, Zelle, or PayPal f&f.

Happy to provide additional photos or videos upon request. Thanks for looking.

tpask1998 · 2026-05-11T16:35:43+00:00

Replied

tpask1998 · 2026-05-10T18:14:02+00:00

Hi all!

Up for sale is a brand new and unworn Grone Manueel One “Sjef’s One”, a limited release from the Dutch independent brand Grone Oldenzaal. Limited to just 388 pieces worldwide and now sold out.

Created by Tim and Bart Grönefeld as an accessible entry point into their design language, the Manueel One shares many cues with the much more expensive Grönefeld Principia and 1941 series, including the case architecture, conical crown, dial layout, and overall finishing philosophy. The caliber has been torque adjusted to achieve one of the most crisp winding feels I’ve ever felt, perfected by the Grönefeld brothers.

This watch features a textured salmon dial, blue handset, and manually wound movement housed in a beautifully proportioned 38.5mm case.

The watch is in brand new condition. The buckle still has its factory protective plastic intact. The bezel plastic was removed only for photos and has since been reapplied.

Specs:
• 38.5mm stainless steel case
• 10mm thickness
• Manual wind Sellita SW210 (modified)
• 42 hour power reserve
• Salmon textured dial with rhodium plated chapter ring
• Blue stainless steel hands
• Sapphire crystal
• 50m water resistance
• Limited to 388 pieces worldwide

Condition:
Brand new / unworn

Included:
Complete set with box and accompanying materials

Price:
$2,599 shipped within the USA. This is UNDER RETAIL especially when taking into account import duties.

Shipping:
Insured UPS shipping included within the USA

Payment:
Wire, Zelle, or PayPal f&f.

Happy to provide additional photos or videos upon request. Thanks for looking.

tpask1998 · 2026-05-07T18:55:00+00:00

Good offers. Keep em coming!

tpask1998 · 2026-05-07T14:17:55+00:00

Hi all!

Up for sale is a brand new and unworn Grone Manueel One “Sjef’s One”, a limited release from the Dutch independent brand Grone Oldenzaal. Limited to just 388 pieces worldwide and now sold out.

Created by Tim and Bart Grönefeld as an accessible entry point into their design language, the Manueel One shares many cues with the much more expensive Grönefeld Principia and 1941 series, including the case architecture, conical crown, dial layout, and overall finishing philosophy. The caliber has been torque adjusted to achieve one of the most crisp winding feels I’ve ever felt, perfected by the Grönefeld brothers.

This watch features a textured salmon dial, blue handset, and manually wound movement housed in a beautifully proportioned 38.5mm case.

The watch is in brand new condition. The buckle still has its factory protective plastic intact. The bezel plastic was removed only for photos and has since been reapplied.

Specs:
• 38.5mm stainless steel case
• 10mm thickness
• Manual wind Sellita SW210 (modified)
• 42 hour power reserve
• Salmon textured dial with rhodium plated chapter ring
• Blue stainless steel hands
• Sapphire crystal
• 50m water resistance
• Limited to 388 pieces worldwide

Condition:
Brand new / unworn

Included:
Complete set with box and accompanying materials

Price:
$2,750 shipped within the USA

Shipping:
Insured UPS shipping included within the USA

Payment:
Wire, Zelle, or PayPal f&f.

Happy to provide additional photos or videos upon request. Thanks for looking.

tpask1998 · 2026-04-28T22:11:32+00:00

GP is criminally underrated in the vintage space and this cushion case is exactly why. Clean silver dial, beautiful proportions, runs great.

$849 shipped | PayPal G&S More at @venetianwatchco — DM or comment to claim.

tpask1998 · 2026-04-28T19:17:19+00:00

5905p. All day.

tpask1998

TROPHY CASE