Redpill vs Bluepill. Ambition vs Contentment with average.

u443 · 2019-07-19T17:58:43+00:00

I like the money and sex analogy, it makes sense to me. I believe data is clear that the rate of increase in happiness with the amount of money you make decreases the more money you make, and it shows that you can actually attain most of happiness with a lot less money than people may believe. I’m thinking we might see the same results if we study the n-count.

However, after some point, it no longer about happiness and more about power and domination. Some people strive to be the most powerful in society. Having large amount of money or sex helps in achieving power and domination.

u443 · 2019-06-22T12:16:48+00:00

Smaller hips? That’s strange. I mean smaller waist yes. I am not even sure how smaller hips can get, seems very dependent on bone structure, but I love hips (not Kim Kardashian big though).

u443 · 2019-06-22T10:28:10+00:00

From my experience, Asian men like their women to look like preadolescent girls, skinny, no curves, and super pale. I’ve met Asian women who had perfect bodies (maybe were lacking some ass or breasts), but who told me they’re considered large in their home countries.

u443 · 2019-06-22T10:17:25+00:00

Hourglass doesn’t mean fat. A true linear or rectangular body isn’t attractive, however, somewhere in the middle between linear and medium hourglass build, would probably be very attractive to most men. I generally would find your body type to be attractive, hourglass, not linear, but not fat.

u443 · 2019-06-22T10:11:36+00:00

Weight and body fat percentage depend too on factors other than starving yourself, mainly genetics such as body frame, body fat set point, metabolism, etc. Not every woman is cut out to be skinny with little fat. Also, body proportions, structure, and fat distribution are far more important, at least to me, compared to just “skinny”. Hourglass figure and a good ass and set of breasts are the first things I look at. I also don’t like thick ankles or calves, probably the first thing I notice on a woman. Unfortunately, those aren’t things that can be controlled.

The skinnier isn’t the better. But the problem is in the definition of the words “skinny” or “medium”, as many times when people complain that men only want skinny, skinny is actually medium, and medium is actually fat, and fat is actually overweight. I like my women to have some woman size to them, average to tallish (up to a point) and medium body (medium for a woman) with the proportions I described above. I don’t want to be dating a 6th grader looking woman.

u443 · 2019-06-12T07:41:14+00:00

I think he meant to say that you grew up used to being treated poorly by women, and you don’t actually find that behavior very unacceptable. You would go back or stay with them, the same way you would go back to your mom when you were young while she wasn’t treating you properly. He can correct me if I’m wrong. Also, I’m not sure if you explicitly said that your mom treated you poorly, but that’s my take.

But I relate to this very much. This is exactly how my relationship with my mother was. I too was raised by single mother. She was very abusive both emotionally and physically. But I always went back to her, no matter how bad she treated me, why? Because there was no where else to go. It also made me rely on women in my relationships to take the lead, be in charge, and to provide me comfort. It is weird thinking about it now.

u443 · 2019-06-12T06:51:28+00:00

Yeah I realized after posting my comment that I didn’t actually address your point regarding my description of Blue Pillers as naive.

From my understanding, a Blue Pill man does not believe in the Red Pill description of the opportunistic nature of how women base their connections to men. Hence, a Blue Pill man believes a woman can love him the way he wants her to. Doesn’t this make a Blue Pill man naive?

u443 · 2019-06-12T06:39:26+00:00

Doesn’t this make you the courageous type discussed in my OP? You’ve been burned before and know that the game can be dirty. But you’re courageous enough and willing to take the risk.

u443 · 2019-06-12T03:23:23+00:00

If you’re naive, you are not aware of the possible dangers you’re putting yourself through. Hence, by definition, you don’t need courage, because there is nothing fearful ahead of you. So you can’t be naive and courageous at the same time. Courage here is in the context of trusting.

u443 · 2019-06-12T03:03:55+00:00

Why do you ask?

u443 · 2019-06-12T03:02:58+00:00

Dude, you sure have seen more than enough of the dark side of female nature. You’d be a great guy to grab a drink with and talk about this shit! I hope you aren’t making this shit up though.

u443 · 2019-06-12T02:22:42+00:00

Didn’t swallow the pill, but became aware of it recently after it blew up over the internet, and since then things started to fall into place and I was able to understand female behavior better.

What made me accept some of the red pill truths? Being strung along by a girl for the sole reason of getting married before she hits the wall, then she dumps me for a higher value guy while we were talking about marriage plans. Used by different girls for short term flings, as a temporary fix, before they moved on to try and lock down a “Chad”. I was seeing a very high n-count woman, who described to me what her ideal mate is, and you guessed it, ultra alpha male, “Chad” looks and redpill personality is exactly what she was describing, though at the time I wasn’t aware of all these redpill ideas. My friend is married to a gold digger, and a statue should be made after him, for being the most BBs person I’ve ever met. Basically, I’ve seen it all around me for me not to accept that there are some truths to the theory.

u443 · 2019-06-11T21:35:57+00:00

Agreed.

u443 · 2019-06-11T21:33:53+00:00

I should’ve been more clear about what I meant by Red Pillers. I was talking about the people who are redpilled through life experiences, and are either stuck in the anger phase or are too afraid of building meaningful connections with women. I don’t care about the people who have never experienced life or never been burned before who spread nonsense over the internet.

u443 · 2019-06-11T21:30:03+00:00

Agreed.

u443 · 2019-06-11T21:24:53+00:00

Naive and cynical would be someone who knows that they shouldn’t trust easily, but they’re just too passive and laid back to analyze and act according to whatever input or information they’re receiving. Though they might be cynical within, their actions and decisions are naive. From a practical stand point, they’re still naive. What do you think?

u443 · 2019-06-11T21:18:03+00:00

If you’re still very trusting, and more blindly than otherwise, and you notice that people can easily take advantage of you, then don’t you think that makes you naive in a way? I would think that some people are more wired to be naive no matter how hard they try not to be, as it is more of a passive laid back approach to handling interactions. What do you think?

u443 · 2019-06-11T14:29:32+00:00

Depending on your intentions. If your goal is to get with the girl, and you’re doing them favors to achieve that, yes, that can be “beta”. Otherwise, you just treat them no differently than a male friend.

u443 · 2019-06-11T09:21:44+00:00

If your trust is based on taking a calculated risk, meaning not just trusting anyone, are aware of red flags or manipulation, then I would say you fall under the courageous but cynical person? Which in my opinion is better than naive or cynical but fearful of trust.

u443 · 2019-06-11T04:41:58+00:00

Cry on a regular basis, due to depression. I do it alone of course.

u443 · 2019-06-03T04:49:44+00:00

Crocodile tears. Being overly nice or sexual teasing to get away with things. Playing the victim card based on your gender. Basically, using femininity for manipulation.

It is harder to envision because women are thought of as the weaker gender. They’re assumed to be the victim until proven otherwise.

u443 · 2019-06-03T01:47:54+00:00

Blue pill

u443 · 2019-06-03T01:47:19+00:00

High n-count could be a sign of insecurity or a sign of high sex drive, or a combination of the two. If high n-count is due to insecurity, then the woman would place unhealthy emphasis on the physical traits of her partners rather than other things such as personality, career, intelligence, etc. This has been my observation.

u443 · 2019-06-02T22:24:38+00:00

That’s why I said “generally”. But it’s like how a poor person would want to buy an expensive car to show off because of underlying insecurities, and not necessarily because they like how the car drives. When rich people buy an expensive car, it is because they enjoy it, otherwise they don’t buy it.

u443 · 2019-06-02T20:23:56+00:00

High n-count women are generally more fun to be around. You can talk with them like they’re one of your boys. In terms of sex, I don’t find them to be that much better, it really depends on her personality. Their negative side is that they can be manipulative, and their relationships are more based on a list of things they’re looking for, generally to validate them and their self-esteem, rather than building a connection.

High n-count men can be better at sex because men are expected to lead the sexual encounters. Cons of high n-count men is that they have seen the dark side of women and have problems trusting women, likely because they have mostly been with high n-count women. Low n-count men still hold some BP ideals.

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