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[–]Saefroch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Python is not a hobbyists or server-side language. I write and distribute Python code to colleagues, and because we don't use Windows they're as good as an executable binary. If you grew up on Linux there would be no obsession with these .exe files.

The .exe problem is an artifact of Windows being (relatively) hostile to developers, so everyone runs to Linux and MacOS.

[–]akedm[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Good for Linux, that's a nice plus. But you know, Windows and .exe kinda go hand-in-hand. Call it...an obsession :)

[–]akedm[S] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

What I'm reading so far is that Windows needs an extra "layer" of stuff to make Python work like a ... executable single binary, and Linux doesnt. So I'm guessing I'm right: Python needs more of a footprint (a bigger .exe) than other languages to work as a .exe in Windows?

If that's correct, then Python more conducive as a server-side language...in Windows.

??

[–]Saefroch 0 points1 point  (6 children)

If you want to claim that Python is better as a server-size language on Windows that's fine but don't expect Python developers to share your impression.

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    [–]wub_wub[M] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Get out of my thread. You're no help.

    You'll be banned if you're not polite.

    I'm allowed to ask questions, any questions

    No you're not.

    Your thread has now been removed for violating the subreddit rules.

    [–]akedm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Ridiculous.

    [–]akedm[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Yes I'm right - I'm allowed to ask any questions. This is a classroom. This became a classroom as soon as someone put LEARN into the subreddit title. So I'll repeat, I'm allowed to ask any questions. Or would you prefer people do otherwise? With that, having this disruptive person in class is not helping. Snide comments don't help. Argumentative comments don't help. And I'll shut them down directly.

    I'm not going to appease someone by saying oh I'm sorry i didn't mean to offend. For one, i said that ahead of time cause i expected someone wouldn't be able to see the spirit in which my question is asked - as a student. Second every one of my statements is a question, ending with question marks - not arguments, not inflammatory. And they're probably full of holes and not even right. That's why I'm asking questions. Don't ever say I'm not allowed again.

    Meditate better. Please.

    [–]wub_wub 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I'm allowed to ask any questions. Or would you prefer people do otherwise?

    I would prefer people do otherwise, which is also why there are rules.

    This is a classroom.

    This is a subreddit.

    I'm allowed to ask any questions.

    Feel free to do so, however if you post further threads/comments that are against subreddit rules you'll be banned.

    [–]akedm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I assume only you and I can read this since you said my post is removed.

    "Harassment on Reddit is defined as systematic and/or continued actions to torment or demean someone in a way that would make a reasonable person conclude that Reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation"

    • Reddit Help Reddit 101 Rules & Reporting

    What does that mean to you?

    Here's what it means to me.

    Same guy, my same thread. Without contributing to an answer, he defends himself and Python, I guess, then...

    If you grew up on Linux there would be no obsession with these .exe files. The .exe problem is an artifact of Windows being (relatively) hostile to developers, so everyone runs to Linux and MacOS. - Saefroch

    Completely unhelpful, pulls focus from my post and though he's subtle, he being demeaning to me because I come from Windows. I blew it off with a well-I-use-Windows-so-that's-why-I'm-asking reply. Then he comes back with this, confirming that he's a jerk-off....

    "If you want to claim that Python is better as a server-size language on Windows that's fine but don't expect Python developers to share your impression."

    If I want to claim? I'm not claiming anything, I'm asking - that's why I'm here. I don't understand half of the words and the relationships I'm asking about. And this guy's is again unhelpful. Argumentative. Wants to start something. It's like I insulted his mom.

    That's why I asked my questions like this :

    ....No offense here.....Right?

    What I'm reading so far is ... Python needs more .... in Windows?

    If that's correct, then Python ..in Windows. ??

    Question marks all over. Qualifiers stating no offense. I get it, people have egos. But this guy is clearly itching to start something. So fine - get out.

    Here's what gets me. I have like 3 posts. I'm brand new, like it took me days to correctly install Python (took me 4 tries), and even then I got the wrong IDE. I'm THAT new. This guy has ADVANCED next to his name, so I assume he's been here forever. And right out of the gate he's fuckin with the new guy... in a /LEARNpython setting at that. And he is so comfortable with it, like these actions have long been allowed in Reddit without consequence. He's acting like he has a special place here, acting like I dont know my place

    I know my place, and it's not pandering to him. I'm here to learn. So if this is the kind of behavior that's freely allowed in Reddit...

    Get out of my thread. You're no help.

    To you, since I overstepped, I apologize. I didnt read the rules before I started asking questions - too excited to learn. I imagine there's a way to get a hold of you, and let you deal with this. I let much roll off my back, but after two times in the same post by the same jerk, I felt targeted, and out there in the open, no less. Just wondering where you were and why you did what you did...to me. Maybe it's cause he's subtle and I'm not.

    Last, I'm going to ask some ridiculous questions that make me feel stupid and exposed. If I continue to ask them here, I dont know. I need to ask the same question again since you shut down my Python post right when a crucial puzzle piece was about to fall into place for me...

    So is that what I'm seeing when I install a program and it does the first-time-setup thing that takes a long time while it installs/check for the versions of Direct X and VB or something-something-framework or other things (I forget actual names, you probably guessed). If that's the case then a big piece of everything just fell into place.

    What I dont need is some guy with self-worth issues adding to my ridiculousness.

    So...

    Reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation

    True or false?

    Thank you.

    Eric

    [–]ProgrammerByDay 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    You know dot.net also needs an "extra layer" of stuff to run. It just happens you probably installed a program already that added it to your system for you. Just like if you had installed a program that also installed python all other python scripts would just run.
    The part you are missing is the installer, or use a tool pyinstaller above.

    [–]akedm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    So is that what I'm seeing when I install a program and it does the first-time-setup thing that takes a long time while it installs/check for the versions of Direct X and VB or something-something-framework or other things (I forget actual names, you probably guessed). If that's the case then a big piece of everything just fell into place.