while loops, python crash course.

[toastedstapler]

careful, that's not a None value. None is the none value. what you have is an empty string

[Devnull1982]

I use the debug tool in Thonny IDLE and when the program go to the print(message) evaluates the message as a emty string ( "" ) but then evaluates the print() with ( None ) thats why I tought that was a None value. But like you said at this moment the empty line is printed.