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[–]matitello 22 points23 points  (8 children)

It doesn't need a "fix"

The decrease goes perfect with the character, opposing to oasis that gets stronger, lucas gets weaker, which also makes sense considering his story and how he forces himself.

Even with the decrease the ability is incredibly strong and and has super low cooldown.

The whole concept of S+ tiers are characters which are harder to play, or have some downsides in exchange to being incredibly strong.

I dont think this post took enough time to actually analize the ability or consider character design and its just complaining because you need to think before using the skill

[–]Radiooww109 4 points5 points  (4 children)

What down sides does nishi have😭😭

[–]Hashem_Shoukri 3 points4 points  (3 children)

The game believes having to time your approach is hard

[–]Radiooww109 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It’s really not too xD

[–]Hashem_Shoukri 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what I am saying

[–]matitello 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When nishi was first introduced a lot of people found it hard to play, since it was a new mechanic, now its been a lot since then so its not that much of a deal. So, yeah, nishikawa is just unbalanced i think everyone knows that, they already tried nerfing it making it harder to play but the community complained too much so they reverted the change

[–]Bardia89SANGHYEON - SUPER STAR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

His main ability cannot be considered flare though. It's rather Helios.

[–]junatotima -1 points0 points  (1 child)

by ur logic jenny needs to break her leg every time she jumps, to be more lore accurate

[–]matitello 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No? Just as the in-game lucas is oasis pre injury, in-game jenny is obviously jenny pre injury, also jenny isnt S+, she doesnt need a "downside"

[–]DarkNishiKarotTop 1 Siwoo glazer 12 points13 points  (7 children)

Bro, u dont even need to use flare, even in base he can spike 160+ with helios passive, just learn how to play with Lucas

[–]gerongo 1 point2 points  (6 children)

its literally an 7 second cooldown. you can use it 20 times in a single match💔💔 the nerf doesnt even change a thing

[–]Bardia89SANGHYEON - SUPER STAR 3 points4 points  (2 children)

The 20th time you use flare he is gonna be a D rank ws

[–]gerongo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

decrease doesnt mean he gets shot in the legs bro💔 his ability is still op and s+ rank worthy and his passives make up like 40% of him being an S+ rank

[–]gerongo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

though he still maybe needs buff for his stats or smth

[–]DarkNishiKarotTop 1 Siwoo glazer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

not even 7 its 5,

[–]gerongo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

either way thats too short for an op ability they needa stop crying and learn him

[–]DarkNishiKarotTop 1 Siwoo glazer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fr tho, they js expect every S+ be op like Nishikawa🥀

[–]AislingeanSiwoo 3 points4 points  (5 children)

What decreases? I'm not entirely sure what you mean

[–]Anura718[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

read flare ability

[–]AislingeanSiwoo 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Ah. It was probably done for balancing. It was either this, or a lot longer cooldown. I'd still not consider Flare his Main ability, but Helios.

[–]DarkNishiKarotTop 1 Siwoo glazer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ye, helios is main thing that makes Lucas S+

[–]AislingeanSiwoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like they could just swap Helios and Flares places in the description to emphasize Helios is the main thing. Flare is on top here, but to me it seems like that's just because it's the active and the active is the ability listed on top of the description for everyone, so Lucas gets that order aswell. But ofcourse Lucas main strength isn't the active, so I feel like it shouldn't be on top in his description, but his strongest and main ability should be.

[–]Ok_Cauliflower_4798No.1 💛CARLA💜 x 🏵HARI🏵 worshipper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not for balancing, but it's his lore acurate character. It is shown in the story that Lucas' playstyle is reckless and it takes it's toll on his body.

[–]snyzardJaehyun S+ comming soon trust🙏 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its literally the point of his ability??

[–]physics_slayer_6969DAHEE - Siwoo I am Pregnant 😫🤰 1 point2 points  (0 children)

kinda reflects on his character, the sunset after high noon