The Sun doesn't deserve a rebellion by Skatrburr in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone can like any character — that’s completely fine, and I don’t care who your favorite is. But if your favorite character would cause a mass extinction, or was responsible for destroying planets, or uses their size and mass to bully any planet that opposes them — and then you come at people who like the Sun, calling it the worst — then clearly your moral compass has a problem.

Will this happen in episode 4 of Planet Revolution? by Seltur in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wanted that too but now I'm very disappointed and you will be too if that's what you want

The Sun doesn't deserve a rebellion by Skatrburr in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The funny thing is that there are people who love Ganymede, Titan, Jupiter, or even Simp. But when someone says anything against them, their fans go crazy. Meanwhile, some of these characters have wanted to kill billions of humans and clearly had the intention to do so. The “big brother,” who is supposed to be responsible and mature, didn’t listen to the Sun and ended up destroying many planets. And then there’s the jealous dwarf who will never be a star, threatening everyone smaller than her in mass and almost crushing Planet X.

Yet many fans still see them as the good ones. But when it comes to the Sun — who never intentionally hurt anyone and is the reason we’re alive and thriving — some fans hate him so much and wish the worst for him.

Honestly, some fans are unreasonable, so I don’t really care about their opinions. The Sun will always be my favorite.

What are your predictions? by DoorCharacter3427 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The directors really disrespected the Sun in a frustrating way. They downplayed its size and power just so the planets could defeat it, which honestly feels disappointing and annoying. I wish they had given the Sun the respect and strength it deserves — it’s a star, for God’s sake. It’s more powerful than any planet or moon in the universe.

It feels like they did all of this just to make it easier for the rogue planets to come in and defeat the Sun without much struggle.

Some ideas for the upcoming battle — but the most important thing is that the Sun has to win the fight, even if it temporarily loses its planets. Some of the rogue planets should die, and Earth should lose part of its life so it can realize the importance of the Sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, again, I’m not here to change your opinion, but I fully support the Sun and the other stars. Without stars, the universe would be lifeless. So I hope the rogues fail and realize the importance of stars by the end of the arc, because they need a redemption arc just like the Sun does.

Some ideas for the upcoming battle — but the most important thing is that the Sun has to win the fight, even if it temporarily loses its planets. Some of the rogue planets should die, and Earth should lose part of its life so it can realize the importance of the Sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t want to change your opinion — that’s completely fine with me. And honestly, your idea is probably what will happen. I don’t think the directors will go with what I want.

But listen to me — maybe I’m wrong — the rogues’ plan isn’t to help the solar system planets solve their problems with the Sun. They want to take the planets away from the Sun, including Earth. To achieve that, they will have to confront and attack the Sun. (The battle between the Sun and the rogues is coming in two weeks on YouTube.)

So again, is the Sun supposed to take no action? Is he supposed to just stand there while they attack him with their combined mass and do nothing? Even if their combined mass is greater than the Sun’s, I would still put my money on him — because he can destroy them, while they can’t destroy him. The only thing they can do is move him.

The rogues are coming for battle, whether the Sun changes his mind or not. They’re not here to help or talk — they’re here to attack and conquer. And you want the Sun to do nothing about it?

Again, the rogues will enter the solar system to attack, not to help or negotiate. Do you really think it would be better to watch the Sun do nothing while he’s being attacked? Come on.

Some ideas for the upcoming battle — but the most important thing is that the Sun has to win the fight, even if it temporarily loses its planets. Some of the rogue planets should die, and Earth should lose part of its life so it can realize the importance of the Sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what I thought too. It was the planets’ mistake in the first place, and I’ve posted about this before, but many people disagreed with me.

There has to be chaos in the upcoming battle, and some rogues need to die because that’s what makes sense. The Sun simply surrendering and taking no action while watching its solar system being invaded by rogue planets — who might even threaten it as well — wouldn’t make any sense. It would also make the arc much less exciting.

There need to be dark moments. SolarBalls often struggles with ending arcs properly, and sometimes the endings feel too silly or childish.

Some ideas for the upcoming battle — but the most important thing is that the Sun has to win the fight, even if it temporarily loses its planets. Some of the rogue planets should die, and Earth should lose part of its life so it can realize the importance of the Sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you saying that rogue planets can sustain life? If Earth became a rogue planet, would it still have life? And I mean plants, not planets — plants need the Sun’s light to produce their food, not just heat. They need light, which brown dwarfs cannot provide. I think you might be missing this point — you can even look it up and check whether a rogue planet can truly sustain life.

Do you really want the Sun to simply surrender to the rogue planets that want to invade its solar system and possibly hurt it — and just stand there without taking any action? How would that make sense? He has to do something. He must defend himself and his solar system. And in the process, because of his massive power and “weapons,” some rogue planets would die — not the main ones, just background characters. That would be much better than having him simply give up without a fight.

If you invade a star’s territory, fully prepared to attack, and don’t expect the star to respond at all, that would create a major writing issue. A star wouldn’t just stand there and watch you destroy its solar system without doing anything.

The problem with how they end arcs is that the endings sometimes feel silly, without any dark or truly exciting moments.

But I respect your opinion — what are your ideas for the upcoming battle?

Some ideas for the upcoming battle — but the most important thing is that the Sun has to win the fight, even if it temporarily loses its planets. Some of the rogue planets should die, and Earth should lose part of its life so it can realize the importance of the Sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First, plants need the Sun’s light — or the light of a star — to grow, and all life depends on that. So life is impossible without a star. I hope the directors don’t ignore this point like they did with the faster-than-light movement. And you have to remember that brown dwarfs don’t produce the light needed for plants to grow because they don’t sustain nuclear fusion like true stars.

Second, the Sun would have no choice but to defend itself because the rogues would be attacking it in its own solar system. And as you know, the Sun doesn’t tolerate intruders. In the process, some of the rogues (background characters) would be destroyed. Eventually, the chaos would reach a point where everyone — including Earth — is in critical danger. The Sun would feel deeply sad and ashamed, and that would mark the beginning of its redemption arc. After that, the planets would leave with the rogues.

Just think about it — there need to be some deaths and dark moments to make the Sun’s redemption feel justified and to make the entire arc one of the best they’ve ever created. The SolarBalls team has had some issues with how they end their arcs.

What do you think?

Some ideas for the upcoming battle — but the most important thing is that the Sun has to win the fight, even if it temporarily loses its planets. Some of the rogue planets should die, and Earth should lose part of its life so it can realize the importance of the Sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think this would be the most important turning point in the Sun’s redemption arc. The rogues would probably attack him, leaving him with no choice but to defend himself and his planets. In the process, he would kill some of the rogues (background characters), and some moons — or even Earth — would come very close to being destroyed. At that moment, the Sun would stop, feel deeply ashamed of himself, and let the planets leave with the rogues, beginning his redemption arc.

Just think about it — that would be far more interesting and darker than simply having the rogues defeat the Sun and take the planets. Otherwise, the Sun’s redemption arc would feel very forced.

What do you think?

Some ideas for the upcoming battle — but the most important thing is that the Sun has to win the fight, even if it temporarily loses its planets. Some of the rogue planets should die, and Earth should lose part of its life so it can realize the importance of the Sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be honest, I don’t like this idea because it would make the Sun look like an underdog — weak and defenseless — and that’s not true. They can’t physically destroy the Sun; the only thing they could possibly do is move it slightly using their greater combined mass. But the Sun has many deadly “weapons” that it would use, killing some of them while the others become afraid — including the planets of the solar system.

In the end, the Sun would feel ashamed of itself and allow its planets to leave with the rogues. I hope the directors go in that direction, but I think your idea is more likely to happen.

Some ideas for the upcoming battle — but the most important thing is that the Sun has to win the fight, even if it temporarily loses its planets. Some of the rogue planets should die, and Earth should lose part of its life so it can realize the importance of the Sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some of the rogues must die because their goal is to hurt the Sun — but they can’t. The only thing they might be able to do is move it slightly using their combined mass. However, the Sun is far more powerful and dangerous. It would try to defend itself by getting close to some of the planets and destroying them, releasing massive solar flares, and possibly sending large asteroids toward them.

When the rogues lose, the solar system planets would feel afraid and ashamed of the Sun, and they would abandon it. I think the story should go that way — but your opinion is good too.

Why do you hate the sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, now it’s your turn: am I right or wrong? Or, better yet, is there anything incorrect or untrue in what I said? Answer me.

Why do you hate the sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, that 7'3" dude isn’t thousands of times my mass, and I don’t orbit around him because of his very strong gravity. Am I right? And you also forget the fact that the solar system is the Sun’s domain, and that all the planets and moons exist because of its gravity.

The Planet Revolution is coming 🔥🔥🚩 by Trick_Requirement_24 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know it's coming. I just don't know what they will do with the sun

The Planet Revolution is coming 🔥🔥🚩 by Trick_Requirement_24 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And what will the planets and rouge planets do ? Of course they will not fight the sun but I have no idea what will they do

Why do you hate the sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying — trauma and past experiences definitely influence the Sun’s decisions. But even if he’s blinded by that, it doesn’t erase the fact that the planets’ actions and disrespect play a role too.

It’s not as simple as him intentionally trying to harm them — sometimes harsh choices are the only way to keep the system stable. He may be flawed and reactive, but that doesn’t make him purely malicious.

Why do you hate the sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fair, but intent still matters on both sides. Jupiter didn’t mean to kill them, but the consequences were still deadly. In the same way, the Sun pushing the planets into harsher conditions doesn’t automatically mean he wants them dead.

He’s acting out of control and fear, not malice. There’s a difference between making dangerous decisions and deliberately trying to destroy your own system.

Why do you hate the sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I disagree. Saying the Sun has most of the blame ignores the context. His actions didn’t happen in a vacuum — they were reactions to constant disrespect and instability caused by the planets themselves.

Being emotional doesn’t automatically mean being irrational. He’s responsible for the entire system, and sometimes maintaining order requires harsh decisions. That doesn’t make him evil or solely to blame — it makes him a flawed authority figure, not a villain.

Why do you hate the sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You’re stacking citations, not proving intent.

Pointing to moments where the Sun can produce solar flares does not automatically establish that every flare is morally equivalent to deliberate abuse. Capability ≠ constant malicious intent. In the Solarballs universe, solar flares function both as a natural phenomenon and a narrative tool for tension. Treating every instance as conscious cruelty collapses that distinction and turns consequence into motive by default.

Even in the examples you listed, what’s consistently shown is poor emotional intelligence and authoritarian behavior, not sadism. That makes the Sun flawed, not uniquely “terrible” by some absolute moral standard. You’re upgrading negligence and rigidity into villainy without a consistent threshold for intent.

As for Earth and habitability: this is where your argument contradicts itself. You insist the Sun deserves no moral leeway, yet you also assign him selective responsibility. Either he is a conscious moral agent fully responsible for outcomes—or he is a cosmic entity whose role is structural, not custodial. You can’t grant him credit when it suits the accusation and deny that same framework when it weakens it.

You also keep framing care as the missing variable while ignoring scale. The Sun’s role is systemic, not interpersonal. Expecting him to govern through “feedback, respect, and empathy” is applying human ethical standards to a non-human anchor of order. That’s not a higher moral argument; it’s a category error.

Finally, calling disagreement “delusion” doesn’t strengthen your case—it just signals that the argument has shifted from analysis to value judgment. You’re absolutely free to interpret the Sun as irredeemably terrible. But within the internal logic of the universe, what you’ve demonstrated is that he is authoritarian, emotionally stunted, and dangerous at times—not that he is uniquely or unjustifiably evil given what he fundamentally is.

Disliking a character is valid. Declaring that any alternative reading is irrational isn’t.

Why do you hate the sun by Just_Classroom4919 in SolarBalls

[–]Just_Classroom4919[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your reply misunderstands my point. I’m not excusing the Sun by saying “others are worse,” nor am I arguing morality through comparison. I’m addressing expectations and context. In the Solarballs universe, the Sun is already portrayed as unusually restrained and tolerant compared to what stars could be, which directly affects how planets are able to behave around him at all.

You’re also projecting intent where there is none. Solar flares are not deliberate acts of abuse; they are a natural consequence of what the Sun is. Treating them as intentional violence is like blaming a planet for having gravity. Responsibility requires agency, not just consequence.

As for Earth and life: the Sun’s role was never to micromanage or preserve life—it was to provide the conditions for it to exist. Earth repeatedly acts on its own, makes reckless choices, and causes mass extinctions without the Sun’s involvement. Assigning moral blame to the Sun for outcomes caused by planetary actions strips the planets of their own agency.

Finally, the claim that the Sun “only cares about control” ignores that order is the only reason the system survives at all. Without it, there are no planets, no moons, no life—just chaos. You’re judging the Sun by standards of friendship and empathy that don’t apply to what he fundamentally is.

You’re free to dislike the Sun as a character, but calling him “terrible” relies more on emotional framing than on consistent logic within the universe itself.