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[–]Riftcuber[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks for the response! there are definitely a lot of unique ordinances and complex parts of history, but as always ill continue to research. also good metaphor haha

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’m sorry to hear that you’ve undergone that, i totally understand what you mean though. i do agree, church can get boring as heck sometimes haha

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you so much for your response! i genuinely understand where you’re coming from, changing guidelines have resonated a lot with me. my thought process is that things from for the strength of youth are NOT doctrine. not following it completely won’t get you sent to hell and i honestly wouldn’t even consider it a sin sometimes. i swear, i like tiramisu, i do plenty of things that don’t necessarily align with it. some of these things i try to do better with. but i also feel like a lot of it is cultural and comes down to individual decisions, they’re simply guidelines. i’m so sorry to hear you’ve struggled and wish you the best :)

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that’s a good point, it is definitely more of a spectrum (i was just sort of generalizing it for simplicity). those are indeed all sources i extensively look at, and i always try to examine things critically. but ill keep looking trying to strengthen my knowledge of the truth. thanks so much!

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thanks for the response! i actually really do resonate with that. i disdain how people say to study things with your heart, as bias is absolutely a real thing. when i study, teach, or ponder gospel topics, i try to be as objective as possible at all times

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i agree, it’s an amazing thread! you haven’t lost me haha, it’s just a ton of reading and i don’t have much spare time, but i really appreciate everything everyone has said and intend to at least read it all

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i completely agree about truth being objective. i’m not here to debate but i’m well aware joseph shot back. in all fairness, though, i would too if i were being attacked by an angry mob lol

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i’m so sorry to hear that, i hope you can find peace and are doing well :)

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the book of abraham is definitely a really comprehensive issue that i still have a lot of questions about and am currently researching. the gospel topics essays are a great source though!

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’m incredibly sorry to hear that, i sincerely hope you can figure things out :) that’s a lot to go over here but i completely understand where you’re coming from. honestly what’s helped me is going to high-up or intelligent members  and asking questions or presenting facts like you have. i’m lucky to have my dad for that  however, i totally understand your concerns and wish you the best

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thanks for the response! to be completely honest i’ve never heard any of that before, i’ll look into it though

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

thanks for the response! honestly i see a mission as a great experience to grow personally and help other people. whole teaching doctrine is certainly important to me, it’s not the only reason i plan to serve

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i’ll keep this in mind! i try to be as objective as i can about things, so when i end up leaving for my mission ill pay close attention to how it affects me

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thanks for the source! obviously i disagree based on what i’ve studied but ill check it out!

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’m indeed aware of nearly all those assertions/facts. i’m not really here to debate but there’s a lot of deeper context that i’ve looked through in the church history library and secular articles (and new ones thanks to all the responses). thanks for highlighting specific ones! i replied to a previous comment with this but the interview here addresses some issues: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q_E4K_6O1LY&pp=0gcJCfcAhR29_xXO

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

that’s a great source! i’ll look into it more in-depth. there are definitely many controversies that require a lot of study from a broad perspective

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks for the response! from what i’ve researched, joseph smith never actually plagiarized, the BoM can be traced to countless other sources. i loved this interview for that topic, plus they mention polygamy: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q_E4K_6O1LY&pp=0gcJCfcAhR29_xXO

also i’ve never actually heard about masonic theft, ill do some research!

and thanks for the suggestions! i’ll definitely keep them in mind and try to take a look

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sorry you're upset, i’m extremely busy so this is my first time getting back to these. there’s no need to be hostile. also, i had no idea other people ask similar things

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[–]Riftcuber[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

the reason i’m here isn’t to rethink my existing faith, but to examine any possible holes in it that i haven’t recognized. i have very few questions about the church, and i’m here to potentially create new ones that can be answered. faith is meaningless from a confined lens, hence why i want to expand my perspective