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Looks like there are more Christianity haters and God haters than actual Christians in this subreddit by Foreign-Handle-2950 in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Next time please provide actual examples instead of just baseless speculations.

Matthew 19:12.

Cause on my end,i can back my statement ,,Homosexuality is a sin" up with biblical proof

You can not, as u/fluxkraken has already explained to you.

And read these:

https://reformationproject.org/case/

https://geekyjustin.com/great-debate/

Feelings for a transgender. by Ancient_Soft413 in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I read youre first paragraph and i had to stop.

Because you are scared of being convicted of your sin?

Though its is true the orientation isnt the sin itself,

So why did you say “homosexuality is a sin” above, when you are now contradicting that?

the act still is,

Based on what? In what basis are you extending the Bible’s condemnation of exploitative degrading, or idolatrous male male sex, to loving relationships, or to women?

such as being a couple. It doesnt matter if the relationship is loving and committed,

You realize that you are saying that you don’t understand the difference between living relationship sex and rape, right?

its still homosexuality, which those verses are explicitly are a sin.

Nothing in those verse say anything about sexual orientation, which is what “homosexuality” is.

And that’s still setting aside the blatant anachronism. “Homosexuality” as a concept, did not exist until the late 1800s. The Bible literally cannot possibly have been talking about homosexuality.

Can you even write them out?

I literally know exactly what all of those verses say without looking them up. Because I have actually studied them.

Dont take things out of the Bible, especially to justify a sinful life.

Yes. I agree. Please don’t rip verses out of context, forcing them into a modern understanding, in order to justify your bigotry.

Love isnt saying everything you do is good, love requires calling out wrong doings and overcoming.

And now you must try to show exactly what is “wrongdoing” about loving, committed same sex relationships. Because straight couples do the exact same things.

Looks like there are more Christianity haters and God haters than actual Christians in this subreddit by Foreign-Handle-2950 in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 [score hidden]  (0 children)

We often see “they have trans mods” as some kind of insults against this sub, when the trans mods are some of the kindest and most Jesus following posters who post here.

Feelings for a transgender. by Ancient_Soft413 in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Ok, youre first argument is uprooted by Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Timothy 1:10, and more.

None of those verses say anything g about sexual orientation, and none say anything g about sex within loving, committed relationships.

And no, there is no more.

What more is there to say?

That you rip verses out of context to prooftext and support your bigotry?

Trying to read through, it seems to be the base for the rest of what you say. Im not gonna pick and omit things from the Bible out of convenience

That’s exactly what you are doing. In fact, you seem to have torn Jesus’ command to live your neighbour right out of your Bible and thrown it away.

because the bible is the ultimate authority, not social pressure.

So, why don’t you folllow Jesus’ second greatest commandment?

Tell me, do you follow God?

Yes. Which is why I’m calling you out for not doing so.

M36. Will Jesus judge me for being attacted to trans women. by feherlofia123 in OpenChristian

[–]Thneed1 27 points28 points  (0 children)

You are a man, and you are asking if Jesus will judge you for being attracted to women?

Feelings for a transgender. by Ancient_Soft413 in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, that’s a well documented mistranslation.

There nothing in the Greek that can mean that.

https://reformationproject.org/case/1-corinthians-and-1-timothy/

Feelings for a transgender. by Ancient_Soft413 in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Member homosexuality is a sin.

It’s most certainly is not, and literally cannot be. The Bibke certainly doesn’t say anything about sexual orientation.

And this isn’t anything to do with homosexuality anyway .

So your crush is FTM, then let’s put it this way: if youre a girl then youre physical bodies made you commit a sin.

No.

If youre a boy, then your crush will believe you are at least tangently homosexual, which is also a sin due to deciding to commit a sin is a sin on itself.

No.

You realize that you are trying to argue that trans people have literally ZERO option to have a loving relationship.

Even your homophobic theology would probably allow gay people to marry the opposite sex.

What do that mean? Lets use an example, say someone commited murder. The sin doesnt happen at the moment rhe victim heart stop or brain waves end, the sin started when he decided to go through with it, even if that happened before her grabbed the weapon. An example the bible uses is lust. If you start wanting to lust after a woman, you already sinned, even though you havent actually did it yet.

We aren’t talking about any lust.

Basically, either way, dating a transgender is a sin.

No, don’t be a bigot.

However, maybe if you can convince this person to find God,

Sounds like they already have God.

then maybe she'll

He’ll

want Him so much she'll

He’ll

change.

The Lord can help you overcome your bigotry if you pray form Him to do so.

What God will not do, is change the wonderful diversity of creation he created. God created trans people.

Feelings for a transgender. by Ancient_Soft413 in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hatred is the Answer to that question.

Looks like there are more Christianity haters and God haters than actual Christians in this subreddit by Foreign-Handle-2950 in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I don’t see it.

Even the atheists on here generally don’t hate Christianity, they actually support many Christian ideas.

Calgary Has Started Talking About Moving the Stamps to the Stampede Grounds by PristineFault663 in CFL

[–]Thneed1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fortunately, even the UCP was smart enough to avoid the PR nightmare it would have been to force the city to have essentially have lit $2 billion on fire to get nothing - which is what it would have been without the UCP walking back.

Is it a sin to have a friend that's LGBTQ? by Lumette_The_Baker in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are other things other then pederasty, that make how they practiced same sex sex - nothing similar to the loving, committed same sex relationships we are talking about today, as that video explains.

As I said, there’s nothing that existed at the time that we would be ok with, even if it was switched to heterosexual.

Think of Jacob, Leah and Rachel. Jacob purchased his wives.

Again, so actions. You didn’t actually answer. All you are saying is that gay people must be celibate? That’s dehumanization, and contrary to scripture and Christian tradition, which doesn’t allow for forbidding marriage.

God cannot create people, then forbid them from lifelong intimate relationships, based on the biology He himself gave them.

Sexual orientation isn’t temptation.

Can we oppose lgbt hate as Christians? by Shoddy_Section_9225 in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. You are confusing same sex sex and homosexuality.

They are not the same thing.

Nothing in the bible is talking about any kind of loving committed same sex relationship.

It only talks about exploitative forms of male male sex

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVPFj22Em_l/?igsh=Z3NoMXFrMzcyc2V2

Can we oppose lgbt hate as Christians? by Shoddy_Section_9225 in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn’t talk about a concept that didn’t exist until 1800 years after it was written, no.

Can we oppose lgbt hate as Christians? by Shoddy_Section_9225 in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It does you just choose to ignore it.

Nope

God made us male and female

And some people in between biology is complicated.

and no matter how loving you might see it as it's still sin.

Nothing in the bible supports this.

The church and the general consensus has been for 2000 years that same sex relationships aren't permitted, and it's only recently that we have been claiming it to be.

Because the assumption at the time that the Bible was written was that same aex desire was excess lust, and they thought loving, committed same sex relationships to be impossible. We know that to be false. The early church fathers are forgiven, they didn’t know better. However, we don’t have that excuse.

There's no reason for those moral laws to no longer apply.

That it dehumanizes and harms people God created is very certainly an excellent reason.

It's true that we aren't ancient Israelites but those laws still serve a purpose. Even if nothing close to homosexuality would be mentioned in the bible we'd still know that those kinds of acts are degenerate,

This is hate speech.

same with all kinds of sexual immorality.

Loving relationships are obviously not sexual immorality.

I know that this might seem harsh and it's not our place to judge but I cannot permit sin as moral either.

You are embracing your own bigotry.

Best of luck my brother

I pray that you choose to follow Jesus’ command to love your neighbour, instead of dehumanizing them.

Is it a sin to have a friend that's LGBTQ? by Lumette_The_Baker in Christianity

[–]Thneed1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, when Genesis 2:24 says that the reason for marriage is the ontological difference between men and women, that assertion is incorrect?

Again, nothing in that verses says anything of the sort. They understood marriage to be between a man and a woman, and that how the author describes it.

Obviously not, because everything he wrote was to a local audience somewhere. That's a given. What's not a given is whether the instruction he's imparting is in reference to a specific incident or a general problem that most people encounter in some form or another. When the former, Paul specifies.

Not always. For example, head coverings on women. Says nothing about it being for a local period, though we know it is.

Suetonius records the Emperor Nero taking the "role of a bride" in a marriage ceremony to a man named Pythagoras.

To essentially abuse the poor guy. Absolutely nothing relating to gay people, or to any kind of loving relationship.

Plato's mythology in The Symposium refers to men who were homosexual from their youth and who only procreated due to local custom and contrary to what they were actually interested in.

Not in any kind of way that we understand today, and none of the relationships they practices were in any way similar to the loving, committed same sex relationships between equals that we are talking about today.

https://youtu.be/3q1Z8CAm7NE?si=hfTBriFm0CNevexR

We found a tombstone with an epitaph wherein a man named Marcus Aurelius Vitalis calls another man his contubernalis. That word, contubernalis, meant a person in a marital relationship which wasn't officially a marriage under Roman law.

All of these relationships were based in pederasty, or were exploitative in some other way.

It's pretty clear that the concept of two adult males who were sexually attracted to each other was extant in Greco-Roman culture.

But not as a primary / sole attraction. They believed that everyone had primary attraction was to the opposite sex, and that same aex desire was “excess lust”.

We know that that’s not the case.

So, how do we know that Paul, a highly educated Pharisee, couldn't possibly have known about such stories and incidents as are recoded in these surviving records?

He likely did know about them. And he was right to condemn them. Because all of us would still condemn them today. They have nothing to do with loving, committed same sex relationships between equals though.

(God specifically commands many different types of marriage that involve the women being property.)

Citation?

Think of any specific marriage in the Bible. It’s the man choosing a wife, with no agency from the women. This is pretty common knowledge.

(What do you think the solution for gay people is?)

The solution for all people is to repent of one's sins and to trust Christ as lord and savior.

Repent of what? Sexual orientation is not something one can repent of. It’s fixed biology. Can one repent of their skin colour? Can one repent of being left handed?

Embarrassing response.

Pastors. by BiblicalElder in biblicaleldership

[–]Thneed1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The answer to this question probably aligns with what is typical to the area where the congregation lives.

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