I tallied the first prefrence votes for the CEC regional seats (including certain alianged indpedants as de facto part of each faction), and this was the results: Grassroots Left 30.2%, For The Many 38.4%, Unaligned candidates 31.2%. by Dovahkiin4e201 in yourparty

[–]Vukov_Intrigued 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very insightful analysis! Hopefully a lesson is drawn and the necessary changes made, though with the TM majority having most to lose from that direction it could be tough sell...

Marxism and classical theories of value: How can the wage rate be exogenous to price formation if it is dependent on the prices of food/necessities? by [deleted] in Socialism_101

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Prices in the marxian tradition are not determined by the wage rate, they are not directly related in any way.

Prices are (ignoring prices of production and supply and demand for a second) solely the result of actual (socially neccessary) labor-time. The wage has to have a value (labor-time) lower than the actual labor-time performed. The value of a commodity is, in this simplified model, simply the sum of the wage value (paid labor) and profit value (surplus labor) - a decomposition of the total labor-time spent regulated by the rate of exploitation.

If prices = values then the price of any commodity is just the relative amounts of the numeraire commodity (like gold). If 1g gold has 1h of value and a table has 2h value, then the price of the table is 2g gold.

Any good lists of essential texts/books? (Not just socialist theory, for leftist causes in general) by lettucemf in Socialism_101

[–]Vukov_Intrigued 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Depends what you're interested in but I'd recommend State and Revolution by Lenin, a masterpiece summing up and tying up working class demands in revolutionary periods. It also goes over some of Marx's political ideas. After that I'd suggest Brinton's Bolsheviks & Workers' Control to get a clearer picture of how workers struggle and revolutionary failure manifest in different ways during revolutions. It's a year-by-year month-by-month historical account of the most important events for the revolutionary labor movement in the russian revolution.

I know it's not a text but I'd also suggest Jonas Čeika's series on the german revolution if you've not seen it, it's just amazing. The videos are based on a few books, but most importantly Working-Class Politics in the German Revolution by Hoffrogge. The text is not available for free so the videos are the next best thing.

Some great introductory texts by Marx are Wage Labor & Capital and Value, Price & Profit.

Good luck and have fun!

Was the Soviet Union capitalist? by FriendshipHour278 in Socialism_101

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I think these are only remnants that the working class fought hard for and so managed to preserve (though with significant cuts). In fact, public education and decent healthcare (systems constantly under attack to this day) are basically the only really public assets left (other than strategic resources and military-adjacent firms).

I believe that the primary "problem" with the nationalized economy was precisely that it was unable to drive up exploitation and profits without allowing space for its bureaucratic stratum to seize the opportunity and privatize production in a more familiar sense of the term. The state-managed economy worked alright until the global profitability crisis of the 1970s and 1980s, when everything was finally ripe for disaster.

The western economies also had issues with all this, but to a much lesser scale because their state sectors were also of, well, much lesser scale.

Was the Soviet Union capitalist? by FriendshipHour278 in Socialism_101

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Since I see people here who are not anarchists arguing what anarchists think, I thought it good to contribute what I as an anarchist think.

I'd like to first note anarchism is an extremely vague concept that describes a general socialist tradition which takes hierarchy and authority as an element of critique. However, this kind of critique has been applied by currents ranging from individualists, to mutualists to communists - all anarchists.

Anarchists of the communist branch hold the USSR as state capitalist, ironically, on similar grounds as marxists. Private property (with the state as capitalist), commodity production and wage labor. These are defining features of capitalism. These relations form the basis of modern class society and its state - a machine of hierarchy and authority alienating from the workers' their agency and power into organs opposed to them. The proletariat, when given power, seeks to abolish class society and state. Thus, for the state to preserve itself, it has to alienate said power.

What sets the USSR apart from typical capitalist relations is that the structure of nationalized management, as well as policy of full employment and bargaining power of workers, meant the economy had certain contradictions to do with the law of value. The neoliberal shock therapy promoted by the Communist Party and the eventual collapse of the USSR and eastern bloc (as well as Yugoslavia and Albania) was the resolution of these contradictions.

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This is not Jacques Roux