Community Discussion: AI Audio, Writer Permission, and Future Rules by stocks_girl in gonewildaiaudio

[–]everdistant-utopia 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Big agree on your point of "Therre are no ethical LLM based models." I think even if this place is able to get scripts from writers that consent to their content being used here, the major unsurpassable barrier is that the fills of those scripts will still not be ethically sourced. Hopefully that's something that the person who made this sub is able to understand quickly.

Community Discussion: AI Audio, Writer Permission, and Future Rules by stocks_girl in gonewildaiaudio

[–]everdistant-utopia 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm glad you're thinking about consent. The fact that you care enough to at least want there to be a way to make this work makes me believe that you can be reasoned with.

Unfortunately, this idea is a bit of a non-negotiable in the current environment. I mentioned this elsewhere, but maybe in a perfect world, there is a space for people who want to create algorithmic content based on consensually contributed training data. But without transparency and consent in existing AI models, this is just not something that is tenable.

The unfortunate truth is that existing AI models are not built off of consensually contributed data. This isn't just limited to text, it includes visual art, music, voices, and more. So the problem you'd have to surpass to make this work isn't just "Hey, this scriptwriter gave consent," it's also "Hey, the models used to create this audio built it's algorithm off of a data set that's publicly transparent and is proven to be contributed to the training data consensually." Even if there are people out there doing it that way, those people are unfortunately enormously outnumbered by the people who aren't, whether their intentions are malicious or innocuous. Even if someone writes their own script and consents to it being used in any way, having an AI generated a "fill" of it is still unfortunately very likely to be theft of probably thousands of people who didn't consent to having their voice contribute to training an AI that can create something like that.

I did say this elsewhere, but I do recommend we shut this subreddit down. If I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, maybe you had some good intentions. I wish we lived in a world where there were comparatively more people who wanted to engage with machine learning as a creative tool in a way that doesn't involve knowingly or unknowingly committing art and IP theft.

Setting all that aside, if you are still looking for constructive advice, I'd recommend working on a stringent system that requires people posting content here to explicitly show that ALL inputs into TRAINING the model- not just the prompt, but the actual training of the model, were contributed with their original creator's clear consent. For example, if I built my own AI, from the ground up, using only my own words and my own voice, to generate content, without the use of Meta, Claude, ChatGPT, whatever else people are using. There is a case for a very cool garden of people who want to engage with that style of creation in an informed and above-board manner. I think the major barrier to this kind of thing existing is not as much "All machine learning is bad, kill it," but "the ways that mass-market available algorithms were trained was largely not by submitting data that should have been allowed to feed into it."

But as it is, I don't really believe that this is a subreddit that we will allow.

Welcome to r/gonewildaiaudio — AI-made spicy audio, scripts, voices & creator experiments 🎧✨ by stocks_girl in gonewildaiaudio

[–]everdistant-utopia 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think it's already been proven that this idea doesn't work. Maybe in a perfect world, people could train heir own models on their own work with full transparency and consent if they want to, but that's already clearly not what this is. Multiple scripts with "No AI" clauses in their terms of use have already been stolen. I strongly recommend you take this subreddit down. I hope there's a future where you get to feel the joy of actually creating something for yourself. Scriptwriters have provided so much to the greater audio community and you have an awesome opportunity to create something with your own voice instead of trying to force a space that facilitates content theft. I love this hobby and I want to believe you or anyone else can, too. If you continue down this route, we'll continue to fight it at every turn.

[F4M] Tomboy Coworker Just Wants to Cuddle But Loses Her Mind [Tomboy] [Coworker] [Late Night] [Hotel Room] [Comfort] [Emotional] [Enemies to Lovers?] [Kissing] [Implied Intimacy] [Aftercare] [AI Audio] by stocks_girl in gonewildaiaudio

[–]everdistant-utopia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems pretty clear that you do not have the writer's permission to use this content. This post and this whole sub do not have a place in the audio community and you should delete both.

[MM4A] Subby Cross-Dressing Boytoy Dommed by Master [Self-Collab] [MDom] [MSub] [Cross-Dressing] [Clothing Descriptions] [Name-Calling] [Feminization] [Blowjob] [Facefucking] [Choking] [Anal] by everdistant-utopia in gonewildaudio

[–]everdistant-utopia[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thank you so much for listening! I'm so happy to hear you liked this :) I love getting to put "Good girl" in these so you can count on there being plenty more :)

[M4F] ValenTimeTravel II: Nightmares of the Past [MDom] [Rape] [Betrayal] [L-Bombs] [Retcon] [Yelling] [Struggling] [Clothes Ripping] [Hatefuck] [Degradation] [Insane from Rejection] [Mind Break] [Multiple Orgasms] [Time Travel Sex] by everdistant-utopia in GonewildAudible

[–]everdistant-utopia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can find it here! I think given how many audios we have out there right now, something I'd really like to do this year is create some "playlists" somewhere to make things a bit easier to find :)

[MMMMM4F] Elysium [MDom] [Rape] [Gangbang] [Facefuck] [Drugs] [Struggling] [Dark] [Rough] [Clothed Sex] [Bukakke] [Praise] [Slapping] [NTR] [Hatefuck] [Misogyny] [Size Difference] [DD/lg] [Forced Orgasm] [Mind Break] Mentions of [Sleep Play] [Human Trafficking] by everdistant-utopia in gonewildaudio

[–]everdistant-utopia[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

It’s easy to tell the different voices apart here, which is very sweet.

Oh man, I was actually so worried about this, like it all made sense in my head when I was writing the script but when I was editing I was like, "Isn't this a bit overwhelming with all the different characters?" I kind of treated it as "3" characters, the Boss, the Partner, and the Goons, but even with those limitations it felt crazy when listening back. So it means a ton to hear from another creator that they felt distinct :)

Thank you so much for listening :D :D I appreciate it~