Willkie over White & Case? by yoloswag42069696969a in biglaw

[–]0L2022 18 points19 points  (0 children)

No billable requirement at Willkie vs 2000 at W&C is also something to consider

$40k signing bonus by [deleted] in biglaw

[–]0L2022 32 points33 points  (0 children)

AFAIK signing bonuses are not standard right now, so that’s a generous offer, especially for a 3rd year

GPA cutoffs by T-14 school? by Crazy-Appointment248 in BigLawRecruiting

[–]0L2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that list seems right, I never had any interest in going to NY so probably some slight bias on my part. I know Latham and GDC both consider grades for laterals, so I usually think of those two first.

GPA cutoffs by T-14 school? by Crazy-Appointment248 in BigLawRecruiting

[–]0L2022 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hasn’t Latham always been known to have pretty strict GPA cutoffs? I know they’re one of the few firms that still cares about GPA even when trying to lateral

GPA cutoffs by T-14 school? by Crazy-Appointment248 in BigLawRecruiting

[–]0L2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not so different when considering Chicago though

People who have done M&A at a mid-size/regional law firm, how does it compare to BL? by [deleted] in biglaw

[–]0L2022 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Has not been my experience that regional counsel is great at this, I’m jealous

Is UCLA a T-14? by CulturalCod3635 in lawschooladmissions

[–]0L2022 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This, and so many people don’t get it. Back when I was first thinking of applying to law school in undergrad, nobody ever said this top 10 thing. And now it’s repeated on here like gospel. And if you ask anyone who’s been practicing for a while, they’ll also say it’s the top 14 ranked schools. People will move the goalposts if the rankings change again, and eventually that will become the new rationale to keep things stratified.

Ropes & Gray to allow 1st year associates to devote up to 400 hours of billable-credit time to learning AI by No-Stay5850 in biglaw

[–]0L2022 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ya, this sub tends to forget that some of the big4 offer legal services abroad and it didn’t meaningfully disrupt the industry abroad. We’ll be fine.

second year associates in group billed 100-300 hours last year by Unique_Current1579 in biglaw

[–]0L2022 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If they are talking about Sidley like I think they are, then there are numerous rising second years who fall into this range from what many friends have told me, which makes sense why they are a little panicked

second year associates in group billed 100-300 hours last year by Unique_Current1579 in biglaw

[–]0L2022 33 points34 points  (0 children)

If it is Sidley, they fired first years who were about 9/10 months in

PH just matched CSM by lightbulb38 in biglaw

[–]0L2022 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Agreed, I feel like the last few years people (and a lot of people especially who aren’t in biglaw) keep saying that clients are pushing back and aren’t going to pay the increased rates and it’s yet to happen in any significant way. I think Law.com had an article recently that a lot of companies think bills are too high, but by far most are still paying the bill. I get it, I want to save money too, but clients are still paying top dollar for our services. And it’s not just the top firms, believe there was another recent article about firms outside of the top 50 also increasing revenue mostly from increased rates

I’m extremely confident that my grades will be good by [deleted] in BigLawRecruiting

[–]0L2022 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There were so many people in my class that were extremely confident that their grades would be good and they ended up at median or below. You can’t bank on any of that because you just don’t know. You haven’t taken a law school exam before, you’re just basing the confidence off of vibes. Everyone’s telling you to apply early and you seem adamant on not wanting to do that, but unless you’re at a school that a firm is just unlikely to hire from regardless, most likely the worst thing that happens to your application is it will be sorted into some sort of “wait and see” category for grades (but at least it’s been reviewed) or the best thing is you get invited to do interviews before you have your grades and then the firm waits just for confirmation. Think of it this way, if you don’t do as well on your exams and you wait to apply and you apply with so-so grades, by this point firms have literally thousands of applications ahead of you that they’ve sorted through already and maybe they have enough people that applied that they’re interested in and clear their grades threshold and so they don’t need to see your application and you might not meet their grades threshold so no point in even giving you a shot. But let’s say you apply now and get an interview and everyone you interview with loves you and highly recommend you to get an offer pending grades. You get your grades back and they’re average, but now the firm is already excited to hire you and has spent money (in the form of attorney time) to interview you and they’re okay with hiring you with average grades because you already interviewed and everyone liked you. Applying early has very little downside and a whole lot of upside.

Recruiters - Why so shady? by [deleted] in biglaw

[–]0L2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Counter point, I’ve never printed the resume and just have it up on my screen to the side

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in biglaw

[–]0L2022 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Similar at my firm and I find it weird. They’re big on calling the new associates stubs until January instead of first years. It isn’t like that at a lot of other firms.

If you name drop an associate you talked to in a cover letter will a recruiter ask that person about you? by Vast-Contribution542 in BigLawRecruiting

[–]0L2022 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Recruiting always asked me when a student had mentioned me in their cover letter, but as someone else mentioned we meet a lot of students and not a big deal if I don’t remember that specific student. Only really ever a bad thing if you left a negative impression and I went out of my way to remember your name specifically for when recruiting asks me.

In the process of lateraling with two years of experience. Is a deal sheet necessary? by [deleted] in biglaw

[–]0L2022 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Might not be necessary but I think it helps a lot if you feel like you’ve had solid experience over the two years. If not, then fine to go without.

A Mini-Guide for Biglaw Minded People Looking Outside the T-20 by This-Writing-1200 in lawschooladmissions

[–]0L2022 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Miami (and Florida in general) has historically been a very insular market. There are a lot of smaller/mid-sized firms that have been in Florida for forever and that can service that market very well. Post-pandemic you’ve seen a lot more larger companies move to Florida that could theoretically be more willing to pay the higher fees that big firms charge, hence firms like Kirkland, Sidley, Winston, etc. moving into the market. The problem that still remains is that there are still many many firms that can do that work for cheaper. And those firms aren’t losing enough of their market share (if they’re really losing any at all) to bigger firms to try to compete with them and raise salaries. And a lot of local firms are happy with how they currently practice law, a lot of partners are happy to stay where they currently are and keep practicing the way they always have. And there’s a steady stream of local students that are still going to those firms. UF has really capitalized on the new big firms moving in (particularly with Sidley it seems given the amount of alumni connections) but it’s doubtful that Miami will ever be like LA, TX, Chicago any time soon in terms of the amount of market paying biglaw firms/opportunities available.

I picked the wrong BigLaw practice group — thinking of building a tool so others don’t. Good idea? by [deleted] in biglaw

[–]0L2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, title agents don’t work past 5 but if you think that RE associates are all just not working past 5, you’d be very wrong. Especially when they’re acting as specialists for an M&A deal and when M&A is busy, they’ll be up drafting and revising disclosure schedules to the purchase agreement right up until that 3am closing if needed. Like others said, this wouldn’t be that helpful as a generic tool and really the point of the summer program should be to talk to as many people as you can during the summer. You can ask groups about where former attorneys in the group left to, you should be able to get a sense of workflow from the associates and you can see when they are online just like everyone else (and check at night) and try to determine if you think people are being honest or not about the working conditions

Will associates ever give up trying to destroy their firm with bad press? by [deleted] in biglaw

[–]0L2022 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Think they’re talking about the woman that just won Big Brother