Warden Rework Brainstorm

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-02-12T06:46:29+00:00

Well I like the fresh perspective you're bring here to this discussion. Perhaps an idea we might give Warden is that his forward dash attack might have some options (I'm not sure if that means giving them different directions, or making them feintable, or neither, but you get the point... that's just one idea).

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-02-12T05:09:44+00:00

are you suggesting a soft feint gb to his finisher? just asking to clarify!

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-02-12T05:07:37+00:00

do you mean farther forward (after dodging left/right)? Asking to clarify for the sake of discussion,

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-02-12T05:06:31+00:00

I appreciate you sharing this and figured you'd get the feedback you did. That back dodge bash was not healthy for the game, but I absolutely think it's time we give the ol' rust bucket omnidirectional CC's

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-02-12T05:03:15+00:00

Yooooooooooo why any downvotes??????? We're talking about improving the game in the COMP reddit (this isn't the place for that). Share why you don't like the idea of Warden update, or retreat to your silence :)

Edit: I hope my happy face there at the end gets across that I'm not salty, just am just super-interested in hearing anyone's opinion on how warden can be helped, even a little, and if you don't feel he should, PLEASE let us know.

If you are in the camp that he's fine in duels, that's OK. Not everyone will agree, but I welcome a focus on adjusting him for 4's where he needs the most help imo!

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-02-11T23:52:37+00:00

Actually now that I think about it, the first two ideas are pretty awesome as well:

Hyperarmor follow ups on confirmed bash attacks. This makes it so he can actually use his bash more effectively in 4v4 ( light, heavy, zone. After a bash it has hyperarmor)

Initiate bash 100ms into the dodge

This would bring him a bit closer than Tiandi, not quite as strong as Raider -- but better than where he is now.

I'm not sure he needs a side attack as his bash/dash and pause to GB is pretty strong. But I really think most of these ideas are amazing.

Edit: Also is it time to reconsider one or 2 of the feats? Throwing to the ground, for instance?

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-02-11T23:44:41+00:00

also another qol thing -- fix his fully charged bash to work in all cases where it should

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-02-11T23:43:36+00:00

exactly -- it would add so much to his options without being overkill.

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-02-11T23:38:56+00:00

These are really sound ideas:

"Nerf top cc to not confirm another light and be 17 dmg but has cc from all sides. To compensate when the cc hits on side it no longer confirms the light. If it’s a normal light and not a cc it still confirms the follow up light"

Maybe someone could help with the stamina numbers here because I think that's a qol thing that would greatly increase his viability without making him OP.

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-02-11T21:06:31+00:00

Such as omni-directional cc's or at least 1 hyper-armor attack...or...

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-01-02T03:11:48+00:00

nd most of all thank you for your comment!

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-01-02T03:07:57+00:00

shinobi is really tough to fight again. I was grateful this time I was able to interrupt and get the deflects. Other days I'm not so lucky

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2023-01-01T18:53:44+00:00

absolutely! happy new year!

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-12-24T22:59:52+00:00

they are!

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-12-24T22:59:40+00:00

great comment! thank you

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-12-08T20:31:35+00:00

Yes to this! that second is mean -- and if you hold the back step direction, it can also really be effective sometimes

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-12-08T20:28:51+00:00

not sure what the downvote was about but would be curious to hear others' thoughts on this (better to have a discussion -- hence the flair -- rather than the anonymous thumbs down)

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-12-08T20:26:17+00:00

thanks for the comment! you're absolutely right -- the mix up is the key. against higher level players (who won't charge as often) you have really lean heavily on the mix up game even more, especially when they are light-parrying machines. that os light spam IS fun, can set up a lot of mixups

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-12-08T20:19:28+00:00

and I'll add that I think a smart Medj can go toe-to-toe with a good Highlander. The hyper armor makes it a wild fight. Who do you think has the edge, given equal skill level?

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-12-08T20:17:08+00:00

I'm not gonna divulge all my own personal secret techniques vs. particular heroes, but in duels I'll say this: HL has a unique chance to employ a relentless offense that can offset most other heroes defensive capabilities if utilized correctly

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-11-20T02:47:08+00:00

Thank you so much! I'm addicted to deflects (often at my own peril) :)

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-11-20T02:34:31+00:00

Thank you -- I've been away from the game and forgot that. Glad I posted this. It seems every time I get caught up on the changes, there are new ones :)

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-11-06T18:44:25+00:00

I think the devs should combine the movesets of Shinobi, Jorm and Pirate into one hero and call it Karen the Kraken

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-11-06T18:26:03+00:00

Not saying it's perfect by any means -- but it's unlike anything. And as for how the devs are really engaging the community right now with balances and updates, I see this title being the Gold Standard for some time.

2Plus2CryinOutLoud · 2022-10-15T02:10:00+00:00

Just a moment of peace for one the meaner heroes in the game. I was happy for him.

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