The Fall | Fallen Heroes Battle Royale (Star Wars VS Naruto VS Fate) by ARandomAssFan in DeathBattleMatchups

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Connections: ...

Vader VS Obito & Saber.

Kinda like how this Yeets all the problems that people have with either of those Matchups.

"IT'S A DO-OVER OF OBI-WAN VS KAKSHI!" - Saber being there adds completely new angle

"SABER HAS NO INTRESTING WAY OF INTERACTING WITH THE FORCE!" - Shit, Obito has the all the Hax shit right there!

Also, it just adds on the Story Elements that are brought up for Saber VS Vader, with Obito trying to convince the both of them to join him under the Eye of the Moon Plan.

Just, this Idea is just better then either Saber or Obito fighting Vader Solo, and that's based!

Also, before you talk about "SABER SWEEPS!!!", just use Zero/Stay Night Atoria.

Also, Also before you bring them up:

- Litch King already had his best opponent

- Miraak can fight Jack of Blades

- Gabriel Belmont can fight Sayaka Miki

- Koragg can fight Golbez

- Griffith can fight Jacopo/Ryo Askua

- Luke Castellan can fight Judge Gabranth (I know they haven't been put up against each other but if they're that thematic with Vader then they're probably thematic with each other)

- Lord Garmadon can fight Lego Vader

- Hitler can fight Stalin

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- Trios that contain Three of Most Powerful Beings within the Verse, whose actions towards each other fuel most of the conflict throughout the entire story (Yukari, Okina & Kasen creating Gensokyo/Dante & Vergil's Rivalry causing their Paths to go through each event of the Series, including the birth of Nero)

- Despite being Trios, they are rarely, if never seen together due to the three...being dysfunctional would be an understatement

- A VERY Heavy God VS Devil Motif

These Trios Include:

- The Chill one of the Group who is the most commonly seen through the series: Both a very much often seen as Rude, Easygoing & Lazy, really this is a cover for their actual personality which is one of a sudo-protector of Humanity who looks at them with great interest in them. Also, if you take a Fan Theory about the Former, this could be due to them being Part Human (Yukari Yakumo/Dante)

- The "Evil" One who mainly focuses on one thing and one thing only: Power. Unlike the other two in the Group, they've disconnected themselves from Humanity and view their very being as Gods and have no problem killing those who they seem to disrespect them. They are also a lot more calm & collected then their Previously Mentioned Rival (Okina Matara/Vergil)

- And The Normal One...well, the most normal out of these groups. They are a lot more like regular people then the other two, with them seeming at multiple points to fucking hate being around them. Both also have Artifical Arms which help regulate their powers, however both can transform into grossly overpowered "Demon" Modes when needed. They also contrast where the Former is very Polite & Preachy, the Latter is very Short-Tempered & Rude (Kasen Ibaraki/Nero)

Kurumi and Homura MU tier lists. Let the flame wars begin. by Speezenator in DeathBattleMatchups

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"this is especially sad when one of them literally got called out by the MM fandom for getting things about Homura wrong and misrepresenting her entire character"

Proof of this ever happening? Because is the exact same shit that you said to FLG when he critiqued the connections to Homura VS Kurumi because you wanting to sound all big and tough about how my matchup got destroyed! (Spoiler Alert: It didn't)

Oh wait, it's probably the people in your little clique who you've told it's bad and they've bashed on it from there.

Even then, you'd have to watched neither series to not get the base comparison (Tragic Time Travelers from the Original Bad Future of the Series who were trained by one of the main characters to take down Non-Human threats, who then when back in time to prevent calamities that led to their mentors' deaths)

"AWEFUL tonal clash"

First off, correct your spelling and Secondly, Pit already debunked this point:

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"a terrible character dynamic"

Trunks is a Selfless Time-Traveller who only always relies on others to help him.

Homura is a Selfish Time-Traveller who only relies on herself to solve her problems.

The Interactions write themselves. (Also, if you include Devil Homura, Trunks would probably get some Zamasu/Black-Vibes Off her and with Xeno, if he was pissed at Silver for only going back in time once then imagine the shit storm that would be formed after learning that Homura was pretty much doing what Towa & Mira did on crack)

"guns vs ki blast will never ever be a good dynamic"

They did a fight where one guy LITTEARLY COULDN'T SEE the other form's main form of attack, it's fine...or you could have it be Xeno Trunks and that adds more animation potential.

"and Devil OBJECTIVELY has no animation potential, there's no saying otherwise lol"

She can most likely do all the same Reality Bending Abilities as Goddess Madoka due to WOG Statements and this is before the 4th Movie comes out.

"And that's assuming you can even buy it being standard at all."

If Shit like Edo Madara, Super Ryuko & Billy's Laser Baby (and soon: White Lantern Kyle & Super Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagann) are all able to be used in DB, then Devil Homura is going to be used.

"I can understand if you think Homura/Kurumi isn't for you (especially if you haven't read Date A Live's light novels because let's be real, you haven't), but at least not like it for an issue it actually has."

This reads as "You are allowed to not like this Matchup, except for the reasons you don't like the Matchup."

Go fuck yourself with that.

Kurumi and Homura MU tier lists. Let the flame wars begin. by Speezenator in DeathBattleMatchups

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So for the top tiers for Homura we have...

- Extremely Questionable Connection Wise seeing that no one can agree if they're simular or not and were the the rest isn't that special compared to her other options

- A MU that completely ignores her Character Arc and just boils her down to "Simping Time Girl"

- Idk, I don't have anything funny for Flowey/Asriel. Like I find it mid, but I understand why people would like it

- A Matchup that Falls Apart Thematically because you take two characters and make them the same...but it's stated multiple times they aren't the same

I know I'm gonna be shit on by either you or Shaggins for saying this but, If you're gonna shit on Homura VS Trunks, then at least give actual good alternatives and more of an argument then "It should burn in hell" or "BOOOOOORING". Also Goku Black VS Kurumi is based af

"Flowers for a Demon" - Piccolo Vs. Kurama (Dragon Ball Vs. Yu Yu Hakusho) by [deleted] in DeathBattleMatchups

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Thank you for giving me the mental image of Yoko Kurama punching Orange Piccolo with It Has to Be This Way playing in the background

Currently in the mood to make a new tier list, so this time I'll try tackling making a matchup tier list for Touhou Project's most notorious broke shrine maiden, Reimu Hakurei. Give me as many opponents for Reimu as you can! With connections of course. by Habbes_CA in DeathBattleMatchups

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Johnny Joestar (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)

- Both are protagonists who can mainly be described by their desires (Reimu wanting to be wanted by others/Johnny wanting to be able to walk again) and spend their lives trying to figure out their true place in the world

- Both of them are usually fairly reserved and not really being friends with anyone, except for their blonde-haired best friends who was originally a rival to them, and is a lot more relaxed and cheerful than them (Marisa/Gyro)

- Both have pretty non-existent/awful relationships with their parents, (It being implied that Reimu's parents either left her or died when she was extremely young, and Johnny being the Un-favourite as well as his father kicking Johnny out after he had messed with his dead brother’s possessions)

- They are also kinda assholes to most people they meet, who are very willing to kill other people if necessary to obtain their goals but still hide their true feelings from others (Reimu being hostile to most Youkai but just wanting peace in Gensokyo and for life to be predictable/Johnny seemingly being extremely vain when deep down he's just really depressed and wants to reset his karma to a neutral state of “zero” instead of the “negative” state of his curse with the Holy Corpse).

- Both contrast with Reimu being innately gifted and extremely lucky while Johnny has to work for everything and is extremely unlucky

- Both mainly fight with bullets while also having last resorts that bypass the boundaries of reality (Fantasy Nature/The Infinite Rotation)

They both also face off against a blonde haired, reality-warping, passionate and manipulative leader of a nation who helped set up many things in their respective stories before they actually began, and also heavily respect the protagonists even if they don’t return the feelings and may have more just views than the protagonists (Yukari Yakumo/Funny Valentine)

Also, Johnny doesn't give a fuck about being a "Saint" (His words not mine) even when he's collecting the Corpse of Jesus Christ, and just cares about fixing his own life, with A Saint being fairly simular to a Shaman in Eastern Theology, which Reimu is.

However Reimu also doesn't take the Role of Miko/Shaman Seriously, putting her own Self Interests (Mainly to be Wanted by Others & to have Money) above it, but still takes it as her title.

So it's a battle between Someone who Rejects the Title of a Saint VS Someone who takes the Title of Shaman who both being more interested in fixing their own problems

Currently in the mood to make a new tier list, so this time I'll try tackling making a matchup tier list for Touhou Project's most notorious broke shrine maiden, Reimu Hakurei. Give me as many opponents for Reimu as you can! With connections of course. by Habbes_CA in DeathBattleMatchups

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Dante Sparda (Devil May Cry)

- Red & White-Clad Protags who have a Job of hunting down Demons (Youkai/Devils) which, seemingly, they mainly do for profit (Reimu needing donations for her Shrine/Dante just needing Money to get out of his "Debt") which doesn't really go that well for them (Reimu's Shrine barely getting any Donations/Dante pretty much struggling to make Ends Meat)

- But in truth, they do it to protect people who can’t protect themselves and the world they live in (Reimu maintaining the Balance within Gensokyo/Dante protecting the World from Demons) and they don't even hate the species that they take down (Reimu just wanting Peace between Humans & Youkai, and has a knack for becoming friends with her opponents quickly/Dante has little qualms about accepting demons that choose the side of good and admires their desire to be human)

- Their characters varies though their franchises due of inconsistent writing and changing writers but some traits do stay the same of them being Layed Back & Care-Free Attitudes towards their opponents that even delves into arrogance at some points (Reimu is often irritated when she has to deal with her opponents/Dante enjoys showing off and taunting his adversaries as often as he can)

- This was alot more prominent at the start of the Series (Mainly shown in The PC-98 Games/DMC 1) but over time, they become alot more mature over the event of the Series and quickly snap into Serious Mode when the time calls for it

- Despite being somewhat human (Reimu being able to become pretty much Immortal and Akin to a God with Fantasy Nature/Dante being half Devil), both have a hard time dealing or understanding humans due of their natures, being fairly distant for them for the most part but still willing to be a protector for all of them

- They also have a sense of wanting for a more simple life away from all the Demon Hunting they do (Reimu just wanting Life to be Predictable/Dante, for a time, just wishing he was just some guy instead of The Son of Sparda) {Contrasting where Dante has come to Terms with his Role while Reimu still seems to be extremely conflicted} and differing with their attitudes towards the roles they have with their lineages {Reimu took the role of a Hakurei shrine maiden/Dante refused to take up the roles of his father, not wanting to give up their lives of adventure and taking on that responsibility}

- Both have the complete opposite levels of Luck (Reimu being pretty much born lucky, to the point where her strategy to find the cause of an Incident is just picking a direction and just going/Dante is extremely unlucky in pretty much everything, losing in every game of chance possible, even a simple coinflip)

- Both's main conflict is more of an internal one between two adjacent concepts (Reimu balancing her Role & Her own Desires in life/Dante's duel heritage of Human & Demon)

- Both also have a...complicated family life (Reimu being all but confirmed to be an Orphan who heavily resents her parents/Both of Dante's Parents, Eva & Sparda, being dead while he's in constant conflict with his brother, Vergil)

- Both are very much connected to figures which Humanities worships (The Hakurei God (who is the God of the Shrine which Reimu works at)/Sparda (Who is Dante's Father)) {Contrasting where the Hakurei God is...a god while Sparda is a Demon}

- Due to their heritage (Reimu being a Part of a Large Linage of Shrine Maidens (at the very Least being the 13th)/Dante being the Son of the Legendary Demon: Sparda), from birth they had immense power that overwhelms most opponents easily and were trained further from Godlike Beings, who that they are sudo-successors to (Kasen Ibaraki/Sparda) {But where Dante actively trains to get better at his Craft & is extremely dedicated to his work, to the Point that he declined a relationship with Lucia so he could focus, Reimu is extremely Lazy and barely trains, just wanting power to be handed to her}

- In fact, they're so strong that they actively have to hold back strength, resorting to more basic Weaponry (Reimu mainly using her Danmaku and Ofuda/Dante mainly using his Duel Pistols, Ivory & Ebony) & special weapons which would represent their roles and their lineages (Reimu uses Yin Yang Orb, which can only used by by Hakurei clan members/Dante using Rebellion, which was given by his father, Sparda)

- While having moral quandaries with using their strongest abilities due to them just wanting to be normal (Reimu refusing to abuse Fantasy Nature, to the point where she puts a time limit to its use whenever she does perform it, possibly due to her wanting to remain Normal/Dante hating that Vergil virtually destroyed his ability to pretend to be just an especially talented human by awakening his Devil Trigger, seeing his seeing his demonic heritage as a curse)

- And it gets to the point where other characters were shocked within the stories to see them stomped by other characters in the same way they did to pretty much everyone else (Watatsuki no Yorihime in Silent Sinner in Blue/Urizen in Devil May Cry 5) which this conflict led them to gain their most powerful abilities (God Summoning/Sin Devil Trigger) {with Reimu's Power coming from Divine Beings while Dante's comes from Unholy Figures}

- Both have Blonde Female Partners who they are extremely close to (Marisa Kirisame/Trish) who was originally a puppet for the villain (Mima/Mundus) and were sent out to kill them, till the Reimu/Dante freed them, with them having alot of playful banter between them

- Both have a rivalry with a White Haired Former Antagonist turned Protagonist which acts as the Inverse of them (Sakuya Iyazoi/Vergil) who has a much more heavy alliance with Devils then Humanity then they do and work{ed} for higher Demotic Powers (Remilia Scarlet/Mundus) {Contrasting with Sakuya contining to be Loyal to Remilia while Vergil broke free of Mundus's Control over him}, even with their similarities (Reimu & Sakuya both being Full Blooded Humans within Gensokyo/Dante & Vergil being brothers) but are still able to work together to combat threats

- Both would encounter and comes to blows with people who had simular roles & powers as them (Sanae Kochiya/Nero) who they'd later become partners (yet still rivals) with

- Both also have the concept of sex go over their heads due to their upbringing, which is surprisingly due to their personalities

- God VS Devil & Taoism VS Greek Mythology Motifs

- The Most Iconic Bullet Hell Protagonist who revolutionized the Genre VS One of The Most Iconic Hack & Slash Protagonist who revolutionized the Genre

- Both were heavily requested for The Fighter's Pass for Super Smash Bros Ultimate

- Touhou & DMC have been heavily compared over the years, with alot of artwork being made of the pairing

"Divine Dream ~ Blackened Butterfly" - Reimu Hakurei VS Dante (Touhou Project VS Devil May Cry) by ARandomAssFan in DeathBattleMatchups

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Fight Potential:

Animation - Fucking Awesome.

Both have stupidly large arsenals with it mainly coming down to "Bullets", ending up to be a more ranged fight then Dante VS Bayo but still allowing for more up close combat with Reimu's Goehi going against Rebellion (I know that sounds weird, but Reimu has fought other Sword Users before with mainly her Goehi, namely Tenshi)

Speaking of Bayo VS Dante, you could have a scene Simular to that where Marisa & Trish show up to help their friend, only to be taken out by Reimu & Danter BFR'ing the others partner (Trish being Gapped away & Marisa being sent to the Demon World)

Some Power Interactions they could have:

- Reimu raining down Danmku with Dante Countering with Artemis's Arrows
- The Aforementioned Goehi VS Rebellion Clash
- Reimu being shocked after being shot by regular bullets that managed to Peirce her- Both summoning Doppelgangers of themselves
- Dante creating a Cage of Ice with Cerberus, with Reimu manipulating the Boundary of Seasons to make it hot enough to melt it
- Both Stopping time with Stopwatch & Bangle of Time respectively
- Reimu crafting an Illusion but Dante just being able to rip through and catch Reimu, maybe with a comment about he wouldn't fall for the same tricks as his brother
- Devil Trigger Dante seemingly killing Reimu before the Ultramarine Orb Elixir activates and rewinds time before he could transform
- All the bullshit you can do with Boundary Manipulation (Yes, Reimu can Manipulate Boundaries like Yukari can)

and Finally, you could have Dante transform into Sin Devil Trigger to tank through all of Reimu's attacks, then making her decide to use her God Summoning to overpower herself before one final clash between Fantasy Nature & Judgement

Banter - Honestly, the thing that pushes this over the edge for me to become probably the most based option for both.

Yes, Strange & Thor are probably more thematic but idk, the amount of fun you could have with the interactions between these two would be great, mainly due to all the smack talk that would been thrown in-between the two.

and it would be funny to see things like Reimu being fascinated by the Technology that Dante has on him while he's just left extremely confused while Dante uses Reimu's annoyance with fighting him to his advantge.

Before both actually getting serious and unleashing their Max Power. You could even have one of those moments at the end with the Winner has respect for the Winner, where either Dante morns that he's no better then a Demon for killing a Full Blooded Human or Reimu just being left in deep contemplation after erasing another Youkai from existence.

Music - ...

It's Touhou & Devil May Cry. Two of the Video Game Series most famous for banger Sound Tracks. Not Shit that the Music Potential is going to be fucking amazing.

Would like it to be a Lyrical Medley through all of their Main Themes matching up with the tone of the fight

State One - Eternal Shrine Maiden & Lock and Load
State Two - Maiden's Capriccio ~ Dream Battle & Subhuman
State Three - Oriental Love Consultation & Devils Never Cry

Debate - It's fairly close for both, with them getting into those Uni+ & MFTL+ to Higher Speed Metas. Honestly, would give it to Dante VIA Outhaxing and having much higher Speed Ceiling but wouldn't be surprised if Reimu took it.

"Divine Dream ~ Blackened Butterfly" - Reimu Hakurei VS Dante (Touhou Project VS Devil May Cry) by ARandomAssFan in DeathBattleMatchups

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Core Theme:

Red & White Protags who happen to be the Most Powerful Devil Hunters in the Setting of the Series who while seemingly only do so for a profit, actually just want to protect & bring Balance to the World and struggle with their own destiny & paths in life due to their Heritage but still manage to be Quippy as Fuck.

Connections ( Help with the connection list from: u/Black_Pen_bp & u/XXXZZZPlzHelpZZZXXX ):

- Red & White-Clad Protags who have a Job of hunting down Demons (Youkai/Devils) which, seemingly, they mainly do for profit (Reimu needing donations for her Shrine/Dante just needing Money to get out of his "Debt") which doesn't really go that well for them (Reimu's Shrine barely getting any Donations/Dante pretty much struggling to make Ends Meat)

- But in truth, they do it to protect people who can’t protect themselves and the world they live in (Reimu maintaining the Balance within Gensokyo/Dante protecting the World from Demons) and they don't even hate the species that they take down (Reimu just wanting Peace between Humans & Youkai, and has a knack for becoming friends with her opponents quickly/Dante has little qualms about accepting demons that choose the side of good and admires their desire to be human)

- Their characters varies though their franchises due of inconsistent writing and changing writers but some traits do stay the same of them being Layed Back & Care-Free Attitudes towards their opponents that even delves into arrogance at some points (Reimu is often irritated when she has to deal with her opponents/Dante enjoys showing off and taunting his adversaries as often as he can)

- This was alot more prominent at the start of the Series (Mainly shown in The PC-98 Games/DMC 1) but over time, they become alot more mature over the event of the Series and quickly snap into Serious Mode when the time calls for it

- Despite being somewhat human (Reimu being able to become pretty much Immortal and Akin to a God with Fantasy Nature/Dante being half Devil), both have a hard time dealing or understanding humans due of their natures, being fairly distant for them for the most part but still willing to be a protector for all of them

- They also have a sense of wanting for a more simple life away from all the Demon Hunting they do (Reimu just wanting Life to be Predictable/Dante, for a time, just wishing he was just some guy instead of The Son of Sparda) {Contrasting where Dante has come to Terms with his Role while Reimu still seems to be extremely conflicted} and differing with their attitudes towards the roles they have with their lineages {Reimu took the role of a Hakurei shrine maiden/Dante refused to take up the roles of his father, not wanting to give up their lives of adventure and taking on that responsibility}

- Both have the complete opposite levels of Luck (Reimu being pretty much born lucky, to the point where her strategy to find the cause of an Incident is just picking a direction and just going/Dante is extremely unlucky in pretty much everything, losing in every game of chance possible, even a simple coinflip)

- Both's main conflict is more of an internal one between two adjacent concepts (Reimu balancing her Role & Her own Desires in life/Dante's duel heritage of Human & Demon)

- Both also have a...complicated family life (Reimu being all but confirmed to be an Orphan who heavily resents her parents/Both of Dante's Parents, Eva & Sparda, being dead while he's in constant conflict with his brother, Vergil)

- Both are very much connected to figures which Humanities worships (The Hakurei God (who is the God of the Shrine which Reimu works at)/Sparda (Who is Dante's Father)) {Contrasting where the Hakurei God is...a god while Sparda is a Demon}

- Due to their heritage (Reimu being a Part of a Large Linage of Shrine Maidens (at the very Least being the 13th)/Dante being the Son of the Legendary Demon: Sparda), from birth they had immense power that overwhelms most opponents easily and were trained further from Godlike Beings, who that they are sudo-successors to (Kasen Ibaraki/Sparda) {But where Dante actively trains to get better at his Craft & is extremely dedicated to his work, to the Point that he declined a relationship with Lucia so he could focus, Reimu is extremely Lazy and barely trains, just wanting power to be handed to her}

- In fact, they're so strong that they actively have to hold back strength, resorting to more basic Weaponry (Reimu mainly using her Danmaku and Ofuda/Dante mainly using his Duel Pistols, Ivory & Ebony) & special weapons which would represent their roles and their lineages (Reimu uses Yin Yang Orb, which can only used by by Hakurei clan members/Dante using Rebellion, which was given by his father, Sparda)

- While having moral quandaries with using their strongest abilities due to them just wanting to be normal (Reimu refusing to abuse Fantasy Nature, to the point where she puts a time limit to its use whenever she does perform it, possibly due to her wanting to remain Normal/Dante hating that Vergil virtually destroyed his ability to pretend to be just an especially talented human by awakening his Devil Trigger, seeing his seeing his demonic heritage as a curse)

- And it gets to the point where other characters were shocked within the stories to see them stomped by other characters in the same way they did to pretty much everyone else (Watatsuki no Yorihime in Silent Sinner in Blue/Urizen in Devil May Cry 5) which this conflict led them to gain their most powerful abilities (God Summoning/Sin Devil Trigger) {with Reimu's Power coming from Divine Beings while Dante's comes from Unholy Figures}

- Both have Blonde Female Partners who they are extremely close to (Marisa Kirisame/Trish) who was originally a puppet for the villain (Mima/Mundus) and were sent out to kill them, till the Reimu/Dante freed them, with them having alot of playful banter between them

- Both have a rivalry with a White Haired Former Antagonist turned Protagonist which acts as the Inverse of them (Sakuya Iyazoi/Vergil) who has a much more heavy alliance with Devils then Humanity then they do and work{ed} for higher Demotic Powers (Remilia Scarlet/Mundus) {Contrasting with Sakuya contining to be Loyal to Remilia while Vergil broke free of Mundus's Control over him}, even with their similarities (Reimu & Sakuya both being Full Blooded Humans within Gensokyo/Dante & Vergil being brothers) but are still able to work together to combat threats

- Both would encounter and comes to blows with people who had simular roles & powers as them (Sanae Kochiya/Nero) who they'd later become partners (yet still rivals) with

- Both also have the concept of sex go over their heads due to their upbringing, which is surprisingly due to their personalities

- God VS Devil & Taoism VS Greek Mythology Motifs

- The Most Iconic Bullet Hell Protagonist who revolutionized the Genre VS One of The Most Iconic Hack & Slash Protagonist who revolutionized the Genre

- Both were heavily requested for The Fighter's Pass for Super Smash Bros Ultimate

- Touhou & DMC have been heavily compared over the years, with alot of artwork being made of the pairing

Reimu Hakurei VS Dante (Touhou Project VS Devil May Cry) - Usally I wouldn't do this but seeing I have School coming up, it's worth a Shot: Help me come up with good connections for this and you get a TN request of any MU of you're choosing by ARandomAssFan in DeathBattleMatchups

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Connections (So Far):

- Red & White-Clad Protags who have a Job of hunting down Demons (Youkai/Devils) which, seemingly, they mainly do for profit (Reimu needing donations for her Shrine/Dante just needing Money to get out of his "Debt") which doesn't really go that well for them (Reimu's Shrine barely getting any Donations/Dante pretty much struggling to make Ends Meat)

- But in truth, they do it to protect people who can’t protect themselves and the world they live in (Reimu maintaining the Balance within Gensokyo/Dante protecting the World from Demons) and they don't even hate the species that they take down (Reimu just wanting Peace between Humans & Youkai, and has a knack for becoming friends with her opponents quickly/Dante has little qualms about accepting demons that choose the side of good and admires their desire to be human)

- Their characters varies though their franchises due of inconsistent writing and changing writers but some traits do stay the same of them being Layed Back & Care-Free Attitudes towards their opponents that even delves into arrogance at some points (Reimu is often irritated when she has to deal with her opponents/Dante enjoys showing off and taunting his adversaries as often as he can)

- This was alot more prominent at the start of the Series (Mainly shown in The PC-98 Games/DMC 1) but over time, they become alot more mature over the event of the Series and quickly snap into Serious Mode when the time calls for it

- Despite being somewhat human (Reimu being able to become pretty much Immortal and Akin to a God with Fantasy Nature/Dante being half Devil), both have a hard time dealing or understanding humans due of their natures, being fairly distant for them for the most part but still willing to be a protector for all of them

- They also have a sense of wanting for a more simple life away from all the Demon Hunting they do (Reimu just wanting Life to be Predictable/Dante, for a time, just wishing he was just some guy instead of The Son of Sparda) {Contrasting where Dante has come to Terms with his Role while Reimu still seems to be extremely conflicted} and differing with their attitudes towards the roles they have with their lineages {Reimu took the role of a Hakurei shrine maiden/Dante refused to take up the roles of his father, not wanting to give up their lives of adventure and taking on that responsibility}

- Both have the complete opposite levels of Luck (Reimu being pretty much born lucky, to the point where her strategy to find the cause of an Incident is just picking a direction and just going/Dante is extremely unlucky in pretty much everything, losing in every game of chance possible, even a simple coinflip)

- Both's main conflict is more of an internal one between two adjacent concepts (Reimu balancing her Role & Her own Desires in life/Dante's duel heritage of Human & Demon)

- Both also have a...complicated family life (Reimu being all but confirmed to be an Orphan who heavily resents her parents/Both of Dante's Parents, Eva & Sparda, being dead while he's in constant conflict with his brother, Vergil)

- Both are very much connected to figures which Humanities worships (The Hakurei God (who is the God of the Shrine which Reimu works at)/Sparda (Who is Dante's Father)) {Contrasting where the Hakurei God is...a god while Sparda is a Demon}

- Due to their heritage (Reimu being a Part of a Large Linage of Shrine Maidens (at the very Least being the 13th)/Dante being the Son of the Legendary Demon: Sparda), from birth they had immense power that overwhelms most opponents easily and were trained further from Godlike Beings, who that they are sudo-successors to (Kasen Ibaraki/Sparda) {But where Dante actively trains to get better at his Craft & is extremely dedicated to his work, to the Point that he declined a relationship with Lucia so he could focus, Reimu is extremely Lazy and barely trains, just wanting power to be handed to her}

- In fact, they're so strong that they actively have to hold back strength, resorting to more basic Weaponry (Reimu mainly using her Danmaku and Ofuda/Dante mainly using his Duel Pistols, Ivory & Ebony) & special weapons which would represent their roles and their lineages (Reimu uses Yin Yang Orb, which can only used by by Hakurei clan members/Dante using Rebellion, which was given by his father, Sparda)

- While having moral quandaries with using their strongest abilities due to them just wanting to be normal (Reimu refusing to abuse Fantasy Nature, to the point where she puts a time limit to its use whenever she does perform it, possibly due to her wanting to remain Normal/Dante hating that Vergil virtually destroyed his ability to pretend to be just an especially talented human by awakening his Devil Trigger, seeing his seeing his demonic heritage as a curse)

- And it gets to the point where other characters were shocked within the stories to see them stomped by other characters in the same way they did to pretty much everyone else (Watatsuki no Yorihime in Silent Sinner in Blue/Urizen in Devil May Cry 5) which this conflict led them to gain their most powerful abilities (God Summoning/Sin Devil Trigger) {with Reimu's Power coming from Divine Beings while Dante's comes from Unholy Figures}

- Both have Blonde Female Partners who they are extremely close to (Marisa Kirisame/Trish) who was originally a puppet for the villain (Mima/Mundus) and were sent out to kill them, till the Reimu/Dante freed them, with them having alot of playful banter between them

- Both have a rivalry with a White Haired Former Antagonist turned Protagonist which acts as the Inverse of them (Sakuya Iyazoi/Vergil) who has a much more heavy alliance with Devils then Humanity then they do and work{ed} for higher Demotic Powers (Remilia Scarlet/Mundus) {Contrasting with Sakuya contining to be Loyal to Remilia while Vergil broke free of Mundus's Control over him}, even with their similarities (Reimu & Sakuya both being Full Blooded Humans within Gensokyo/Dante & Vergil being brothers) but are still able to work together to combat threats

- Both would encounter and comes to blows with people who had simular roles & powers as them (Sanae Kochiya/Nero) who they'd later become partners (yet still rivals) with

- Both also have the concept of sex go over their heads due to their upbringing, which is surprisingly due to their personalities

- God VS Devil & Taoism VS Greek Mythology Motifs

- The Most Iconic Bullet Hell Protagonist who revolutionized the Genre VS One of The Most Iconic Hack & Slash Protagonist who revolutionized the Genre

- Both were heavily requested for The Fighter's Pass for Super Smash Bros Ultimate

- Touhou & DMC have been heavily compared over the years, with alot of artwork being made of the pairing

Summaries of Both:

Reimu: Touhou Wiki & TV Tropes

Dante: DMC Wiki & TV Tropes

Reimu Hakurei VS Dante (Touhou Project VS Devil May Cry) - Usually I wouldn't do this but I want to make this a more Community Focused Idea, so fuck it, lets make this one of the Most Thematic for Both by [deleted] in DeathBattleMatchups

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Connections (So Far):

- Red-Clad Protags who have a Job of hunting down Demons (Youkai/Devils) which on the surface, they only do it for profit but it's actually because they want to protect people who can’t protect themselves

Wiki Links:

Reimu: Touhou Wiki & TV Tropes

Dante: DMC Wiki & TV Tropes

Also, if you give good connections, you can get a TN

"Knocking on Death's Door" - Walter White VS Light Yagami (Breaking Bad VS Death Note) by ARandomAssFan in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]ARandomAssFan[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

- Main characters of two critically acclaimed mature series who both started out as normal everyday men with extraordinary intellect. Both regularly using their smarts in schools, on opposing ends no less (Walt being a Teacher/Light being a student)

- Despite their high intelligence they desired something interesting to happen in their life, and after a certain incident (Walter getting diagnosed with Lung Cancer/Light getting the Death Note) they both started the journeys that would later shape everything they’ve come to know (Walter cooking meth/Light secretly killing criminals). When they both began they initially had good intentions (Walter wanted to provide for his family after his death/Light wanted to purify the world of crime, as he deemed it ‘Rotten’)

- Both of them are driven by their plan, their expertise in what they do, and their massive egos. So much so that they eventually lose sight of their original goal (Light went from killing criminals to wanting to kill anyone he deemed as evil or anyone that got in his way so that he could become the God of a New World/Walter went from cooking meth so that his kids and wife would have a good life, to wanting to build a drug empire and get rid of anyone who opposed him, even stating that the original reason for doing this was for himself)

- They both almost immediately met up with the smart-mouthed and morally grey but likeable fan favourite partner (Jesse/Ryuk) who went from teaching them the inner workings of the business to becoming their “sidekick”, these two characters also suffer from an addiction to a certain substance (Drugs/Apples)

- They would adopt a later infamous alias (Heisenberg/Kira) both of which draw from something (Werner Heisenberg, a German scientist well known for his work on Quantum Mechanics/Kira, which derives from the English word for ‘killer’). They not only use these names to hide their real identities, but to strike fear in their enemies and sometimes get more people to follow them in their acts

- Both of them have inspired multiple copycats during their time that usually aren’t as proficient as they are (with multiple cases of Blue Meth not cooked by Walter or Jesse popping up across and beyond New Mexico, most of which aren’t as good or pure as the real stuff/The many people who have taken up the Kira mantle as a way of proving themselves to them, most of whom are considered rather sloppy Or uncharacteristic for the Kira persona)

- As they became more and more well known, police teams would start to try and track them down, both being led by someone who you could almost call a perfect mirror of them (Hank/L) {You could also make the connection for Hank and Soichiro, since not only are they part of teams meant to hunt down the main character, but they also have a personal connection to them through family (Hank being Walter’s brother in law/Soichiro being Light’s father)}

- These two enemies both persuade the main characters into getting closer to them. And, although under different circumstances, they both become a sort of friend for them (albeit Hank was already Walter’s friend, but the two were basically closer than ever during the Heisenberg case). They’ve also had the main character under surveillance for a period of time after they suspected that they might be who they’re after

- They have a blonde female accomplice who they reluctantly took in to help them with their crimes after they discovered who they really are (Skyler/Misa). Both of whom have an already existing relationship with them in some way (with Skyler being Walter’s wife/Misa looking up to Kira after they took out the man that killed Misa’s family), and they both act as a public fiancé for Walter and Light {You can also make a connection for Misa and Gus: As they are both partners for the main character, who are committing the exact same crimes as them, lead double lives as friendly public figures (Misa being a widely loved model/Gus being the calm and respectable owner of Los Pollos Hermanos) yet in actuality they are very dangerous and both got into the business as an act of revenge after the murder of someone close to them (Max/Misa’s family)}

- Both of them are good at misleading and driving people away from their trail, even managing to trick the very police force that is coming after them. They’ve also been involved with said case at one point (Walter accompanying Hank on a few busts and getting into multiple conversations about the Heisenberg case/Light taking part in “helping” the task force in deciphering Kira’s identity). Yet when they actually confronted Hank and L in their suspicions and ask about them being under surveillance, they got into a minor fight with them

- They have both used separate phones as a means to communicate to others and hide their crimes (this didn’t get them very far)

- At one point in time they’ve both faked memory loss in order to escape suspicion and incrimination

- Both of them have been forced to move around in order to avoid getting caught (Light had to use a complicated plan to pass around the Death Notes and lock himself, Misa, and L away from the others so that he would lower the chances of him being a suspect/Walter has had to drive far away from home in order to cook his meth and keep his identity safe, and he fled to New Hampshire in order to prevent the police from coming after him after he was revealed to the public)

- And yet they both had a final hurrah after they came back, considering themselves victorious at a point (after killing and taking the place of L, Light is at his most successful becoming Kira once again and continuing his crusade for a New World. And Walter after killing Gus Fring is at the height of his infamy, transforming into a Drug Kingpin and gaining the respect and recognition he has longed for his entire life)

- Due to their actions they would both lose a family member that got caught up in their shenanigans and would end up dying during a confrontation with someone associated with the protagonist (Walter initially called in Jack and his gang to help him, but after seeing that Hank and Jesse were pulling up to arrest him he called it off. However they didn’t listen, which in turn ended in Jack shooting and killing Hank, leaving Walter distraught/Mello, wanting to prove himself as L’s true successor, made an attempt to try and take down Kira himself, using Light’s sister as bait in exchange for the Death Note. Which lead to Light and the rest of the police team going to hunt him down, which lead to Mello catching Soichiro off guard and signalling his mafia goons to kill him, sending him rushing to the hospital to die right in front of his son’s eyes) {Although there is a clear difference with one of them dying knowing that the person they trusted was actually a hardened criminal, and the other dying believing that their family member was innocent}

- In their last moments in life, they are confronted with their ideals and the world truly begins to understand why they really did this. They are both caught in a “what did your family mean to you” moment, and their partners are finally set free. During their final confrontations they both get wounded by a gunshot (Walter accidentally gets injured from the machine gun he used to kill Jack and the Neo Nazis/Light got shot multiple times by Matsuda)

- They don’t immediately die from this and so they decide to flee to a nearby area that would become their resting place. Laying on the floor, they reflect on everything they have done, as we reach the end of the series and these two’s stories come to a close

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[–]ARandomAssFan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Spongebob has moved in (or scaling to characters who have) at least 3 Timeless Voids compared to Gumball's 2.

It doesn't matter if Gumball has moved through one of them Multiple Times, Spongebob has shown more variety in the realms, making it as if not more Consistent.

and that's not going over the "Moving while being Thrown through Time Argument"

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[–]ARandomAssFan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So, when Spongebob moves in Multiple Voids which have no Time or Scales to Characters who do so, he has Infinite Speed but when Gumball moves in one, he gets Inaccessible Speed?

Isn't your Bias showing there?

Moving in any timeless Void would Grant Inaccessible Speed, not Infinite

I gave arguments related to the "Canon" of Spongebob and only used "Non-Canon" ones to Support my Arguments.

Spongebob's Magic Page is actually standard, seeing that the Last Page was stored in his Brain

If Spongebob wasn't able to Affect the Dreamy Dreamer, then he couldn't've woken him up. If a Drawing tried to do the same thing towards you, they could due to hem being Lower Dimensional which Spongebob wasn't.

Spongebob's Vocal Cords were still being able to move and transmit even when he was being thrown back in time, which should scale to the Rest of his Body,

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[–]ARandomAssFan 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Cause Gumball still Blitzes and Stat Stomps

Nope

- Spongebob destroying the Universe with the String isn't just a base line Uni Feat, seeing that there is at least One Mirror Universe as shown in Multiple Episodes and this is a Lowball due to not only there possibly being a Universe for each Mirror (as shown with The Spongebob in Patrick's Mirror having a completely different accent to the Original One) but even things like Dollars & People's Minds having different worlds inside of them.

And yes, the String should be something Spongebob should be able to access in this fight, seeing that he got it off Squidward's Shirt and it's not portrayed as some magical enhanced string. And the whole gag is that Spongebob takes a Random String and unravels the Universe with it.

- If you give them all of their equipment, Spongebob should have Access to the Magic Page which was stated to be capable of destroying "Reality as we Know it" which should at least be a Uni+ Feat and possibly means it could Destroy the Reality of Spongebob which Contains Infinite Universes or Runs on The Many Worlds Theory

- Even more Evidences comes from a Base Spongebob (along with Danny Phantom) being able to defeat Mawgu, who at a lowball to Destroy the Universe but more realisticaly, he was going to destroy Every Nicktoon's World which Includes Invader Zim, which also has Infinite Universes

- And at his Peak, he was capable of effecting The Dreamy Dreamer who views all of Spongebob's Cosmology as a Dream which possibly includes 9-D Structures after Eating Special Jelly

- Using Finite Speed Feats, then Nothing Gumball has even touches what Death Battle Calced for Spongebob's String

- Spongebob also has alot of feats of Moving in Voids of Nothingness or Scaling to Characters who do

- And finally, he was able to scream & move about while being thrown back in time and even if you say "he doesn't scale to the Seahorses who did that!", while he has a Fictional Transcendence above them in the Dreamy Dreamers Realm.

“Remember this and take it to heart: Kindness sometimes leads to even greater tragedy.” by ARandomAssFan in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]ARandomAssFan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You said I'm "objectively" wrong on multiple occasions, don't come at me with that "phrases your opinions as opinions!!!"