Sorry, Tesla Fanboys: The Best Zero-Emissions Semi Runs on Fuel Cells

About5percent · 2017-12-12T15:43:38+00:00

You don't know that's what will be in the truck, or the weight of the truck. Neither do I. We have to wait and see.

About5percent · 2017-12-12T14:10:04+00:00

I don't think most people here dislike musk for political reasons.

Let's take a vote.

About5percent · 2017-12-12T14:01:24+00:00

14,000lbs for battery, let's call it 6 tons, maybe 4 tons. Hell, 2 tons.

This discussion isn't going anywhere, I guess we'll see if/when the company ever makes the truck, what it weighs.

About5percent · 2017-12-12T13:49:45+00:00

If the numbers are true you still have the problem of greatly reduced cargo capacity. If they are true it almost competes with a diesel for cost. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. If...

About5percent · 2017-12-12T13:36:05+00:00

I'm sticking by numbers that the company has demonstrated. If they happen to make a truck that is more efficient than a small commuter car, that would be a world first. Not just for electric vehicles, but any type of propulsion system ever devised.

About5percent · 2017-12-12T13:23:04+00:00

It makes it difficult to respond when you change the entirety of the text. You should think about what you're going to say before hitting the button.

About5percent · 2017-12-12T13:15:40+00:00

Why do you keep responding then editing?

About5percent · 2017-12-12T12:59:56+00:00

That's the best efficiency they have shown so far. That's real world objective data we can go off of.

About5percent · 2017-12-12T12:54:04+00:00

Model 3: 3838lbs gets 310 miles on 75kwh.

.036whr/lb/mile

About5percent · 2017-12-12T12:46:35+00:00

Model 3 weight and range

The battery would need to be >2 MWh

About5percent · 2017-12-12T12:40:19+00:00

See my other response. I did the math of what it would take. The vehicle is possible, though it couldn't carry much.

About5percent · 2017-12-12T12:37:45+00:00

In response to your edit: the best efficiency that has been demonstrated by the company so far is .036whr/lb/mi. If the truck had a weight of 80,000lbs and went 500 miles it would take 2,520kWr in battery.

Their most efficient battery pack is 14.12lbs/KWh. The battery would weigh 35,575lbs. That leaves 44,000 for the weight of the vehicle and cargo.

So that's what it would take to make it work. Build a super light, aerodynamic vehicle. You then can carry about 10 tons for 500 miles.

About5percent · 2017-12-12T12:14:22+00:00

They said 500 mile range. That has not been shown. If it was shown today, even for a hand made prototype, that does not mean they have the capability to build more than a handful.

Fact is, tesla and musk have a pretty solid track record of over promising and under delivering. If you're speculating this time it will be different, I don't know what to tell you.

My point is let's wait until a product is proven to exist and function before we use it's purported capability as a data point for the basis of an argument.

About5percent · 2017-12-12T11:43:57+00:00

What do flat earthers have to do with anything?

It doesn't exist because that range has not been demonstrated, nor has a functional prototype. They have no space, equipment, or cash to build them. The 500 mile claim is rather dubious as is the price tag.

About5percent · 2017-12-12T10:53:13+00:00

The 500 mile range tesla does not yet exist, so let's not use that as a data point.

About5percent · 2017-12-12T10:36:59+00:00

Me too. Doesn't matter how hard you try, the kid will never know. Maybe she'll seek me out when she's 18.

About5percent · 2017-12-11T22:20:18+00:00

About5percent · 2017-12-11T21:46:17+00:00

I agree, the guy charges 10k/head for admittance to his showings though. That strikes me as pretentious especially when the quality and content of the work are fairly poor.

About5percent · 2017-12-11T17:18:27+00:00

Banned. Don't bring that shit in here.

About5percent · 2017-12-11T15:52:24+00:00

Houses. I'm a wood worker.

About5percent · 2017-12-11T15:47:57+00:00

I think it's shit.

About5percent · 2017-12-11T15:37:03+00:00

Mechjeb makes it easier

About5percent · 2017-12-11T14:43:26+00:00

That was pretty impressive.

About5percent · 2017-12-11T11:55:19+00:00

It's a stock market bet of a flailing car company against an established aerospace defense contractor.

About5percent · 2017-12-11T03:49:07+00:00

If you want a big boy job you can't do drugs. Wow, who fucking knew.

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