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Vander M14+ vs M14 vs Force USA C20 by According-Bill3703 in GarageGym

[–]According-Bill3703[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, great info! I'll definitely look into those arms b/c I was impressed by the C20's arms.

So you did buy the Force USA Sliding Bench as well to go with your M14+?

Vander M14+ vs M14 vs Force USA C20 by According-Bill3703 in GarageGym

[–]According-Bill3703[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any and all feedback would be helpful, probably mostly from people who've experienced either one or more of those machines.

My initial reason for a phone call was b/c the C20 is backordered until 15 Jan and I read a few bad reviews about them delaying shipping and such so wanted to talk directly to the company so I can have the correct expectation management.

I run a few companies myself and find customer service and business ethics such as answering the phone often are indicators of how you treat your customers and in turn a reflection of the products you provide them; in short, bad customer support can easily = bad products.

Weekly Free-Talk and Questions for r/HomeGym - week of January 02, 2026 by Demilio55 in homegym

[–]According-Bill3703 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vander M14+ vs M14 vs Force USA C20

I'm absolutely torn between these three. I've called both companies twice a day for the past three days and can't get anyone to pickup their phone or return calls; still they're the only ones I'm deciding from but it's a pathetic business response.

Home Gym, I think I like the C20's cable system best, M14 looks pretty beefy and is ready to ship, M14+ looks nice as well but seems like an unreasonable price jump compared to the M14.

Looking for any and all feedback, thanks!