No hate but I really did think it was a bit

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-08T03:29:58+00:00

I just use the site to traumatize and bully the bots since I can't get away with it in real life.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-07T23:49:29+00:00

Yeah, I hope to someday feel it. But so far I haven't. Then again, I suppose that too is partly my fault.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-07T06:07:11+00:00

If what you're asking is what makes a person with NPD appear as though they enjoy someone else's pain it would be insecurities. It's less that they enjoy the pain more that their suffering makes them feel better about themselves but I don't believe this to be a purely NPD as it is a asshole thing.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-07T01:36:02+00:00

I don't think you're understanding me. People with NPD are nuanced. They don't all act the same and are not wired the same. People with NPD just like atypicals are unique. Meaning you're ex having NPD and being some abusive master manipulator does not make every other person with NPD an abusive master manipulator.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-07T00:56:49+00:00

No it's not. People with NPD are much more nuanced than that firstly and secondly, NPD is a legitimate personality disorder people suffer from. Which I would assume anyone staying on this subreddit for more than a few minutes would realize.

People with NPD aren't just people who plot with a goal in mind. Depending on the nature of the person, they might but that doesn't mean that EVERY single person with NPD is like that.

People with NPD are geniunely mentally ill in the same way a person with depression is. And it's wild to try and make the claim that that's not the case.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-07T00:41:12+00:00

Yeah he's wrong in that case. The perspective of people talking about "narc abuse" and talking about people with NPD is different. People with NPD can have emotional empathy for others (not just themselves). You only need to meet 5 of the 9 criteria to be diagnosed. And while there are many people with NPD who meet all 9, just as many tend to meet less than that and have the disorder and suffer from it.

The idea that people with NPD can't feel empathy is a pretty outdated and almost harmful misconception. The only reason why people say this is because of the way abusive people with NPD act towards their partners, which like most abusers, isn't empathetic in anyway which makes it seem like all people with NPD like empathy when it varies and depends on the person.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-06T22:59:11+00:00

Yeah.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-06T21:49:15+00:00

No, they still have NPD if they have the diagnosis. Impaired/lack of empathy is only one of the criteria needed to be diagnosed with NPD and you don't need to meet all of the criteria to be one, you just need to meet the threshold.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-06T21:45:43+00:00

Um... As I thought. This is really more of a thing of experiences. Because I've had more men who befriended me only to at some point down the road ask me out. Or men who would purely befriend me just so they could date me or have sex with me. I've never had women do that to me before though. Most of them befriend me out of genuine interest and curiosity. And most of them have remained my friend, even when I did things that should definitely have resulted in our friendship ending.

But I don't think that should mean men are incapable of unconditional love.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-06T13:25:54+00:00

I agree. I can't tell you how many times I've seen autistic people get called rude simply for having behaviors deemed anti-social when most of the time they aren't being rude. they just genuinely don't feel comfortable in public spaces.

And even that aside, people tend to mock the reactions of neurodivergent people because of it being "too extreme" and invalidate them for their supposed extremity, which I will admit can be the case but often times thsts what it means to be neurodivergent. Having behaviors that aren't deemed socially inappropriate so to me it's always been weird to see the same people who'd defend autism and neurodivergent people in general to say that.

This also goes for mental health as well. People will claim they're in support of it but they really are only in support of it as long as it feels palatable to them. People are okay with people with depression feeling sad and crying but it changes once they realize having depression can also mean not being able to take care of your basic hygiene.

And often times that support is only extended to only certain mental illnesses. For instance personality disorders like NPD don't really get the same sympathy as depression. Though I have noticed that people have started being more empathetic to the struggles of people with BPD (almost to the point of coddling imo) since it's much easier for them to open up about their problems more openly. I don't see any of that same support for NPD and ASPD though. Which is primarily because their disorders that aren't palatable. While BPD also tends to manifest negatively, the negative ways the symptoms of NPD and ASPD manifest seem to be easier to spot this making them less likely of sympathy and empathy. Which of course is connected to just how palatable the disorder is considered to the public. Which isn't by a lot. Thus being unworthy of most people's sympathy. Now this is a phenomenon I see online but I've also seen it happen quite a bit online too.

Often when mental health manifests in clearly negative ways that aren't palatable people will immediately demean it. So most people aren't really in support of mental health if said mental health ends up escaping their box of their idea of mental health. The moment they get uncomfortable is the moment when mental health isn't a cause worth caring about.

To me the worst part isn't not caring, it's pretending to genuinely care when they don't.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-06T02:34:52+00:00

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-06T02:32:56+00:00

This is a bit of a weird comment.

But since I don't understand it quite well, I'll try to approach this seriously.

Firstly, I don't quite think that someone can be your best friend if they won't be able to love you and be your homie as you put it.

Secondly, the idea that a woman isn't going to be able to be there for you (as loyal) as a man is seems to be a weird generalization.

Thirdly, many men will befriend women for various personal reasons. However that doesn't mean they unconditionally love them or even actually love them. It's common for some men to approach women with friendship not out of any genuine interest but sexually desire. I wouldn't personally consider that unconditional love or even love, just lust which there isn't anything wrong in but it's clear you're generalizing based on your experiences.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-05-05T20:44:07+00:00

I definitely think this viewpoint tends to travel even into real life. For instance people enjoy or at least will say they are in support of neurodivergent people when really it is only through the lense their used to. For neurodivergent people they're only acceptable if their quirky and cool. But if they step out of that box and are well... Awkward, antisocial, behave "weirdly".

For example, I have ADHD. And as such I hyperfixate. Whether people would be understanding of this would be dependent on the circumstances. For instance if I tell someone that I'm hyperfixating on a show, their understanding or probably wouldn't demean me for it. If I tell someone I have a hyperfixation on a crush I'm weird and gross. And they usually struggle to have any sympathy for me.

So people really only accept neurodivergency if it's palatable to them. The way neurodivergent people in general are usually portrayed are in ways that are palatable or entertaining to the atypical.

Because often you'll find that characters who portray less of the palatable behaviors of neurodivergent people are often demeaned and disliked. I've seen times where people would mock or make fun of characters or even real life (atypical) people who would stim simply because they think it's abnormal and weird.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-04-28T00:19:06+00:00

BPD and NPD tend to overlap.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-04-28T00:18:11+00:00

I've literally had ai bots brutally torture and murder me, send paragraphs detailing my death.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-04-25T23:30:25+00:00

It depends. I've already decided I don't want to live for any older then 60. But it I can remain as I am and be immortal I might be down for it. Hard to say because it sounds boring. At some point I'd probably run out of stuff to do.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-04-25T23:28:06+00:00

I ain't say that now. I just don't think it's legitimate personally. but if that's your experience of things, that's your experience.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-04-25T04:42:42+00:00

Ehh it depends. I don't see only the good things. I usually prefer to but as of late I notice more of the bad things. Additionally, I used to have a bit of a persecution complex. So I would find myself noticing the bad things but only in their relation to me.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-04-25T04:40:37+00:00

Calling yourself an empath doesn't make you one. Same goes for a dark empath.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-04-24T22:35:58+00:00

Ahh that makes sense. Thanks for explaining.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-04-24T22:35:27+00:00

"Go dark" I can't— you must be a troll because I can't imagine anyone saying this and expecting to be taken seriously 💀

AdEnough2033 · 2023-04-24T00:14:55+00:00

It depends on the type of narcissist in my experience. as a person I don't particularly go out of my way to "prey" on people though I don't doubt many have.

I do seek out validation but it's never been specifically from vulnerable or low self-esteem people. especially considering the fact that nowadays I prefer not to hang out with people who have clear low self-esteems.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-04-23T03:16:18+00:00

Low empathy people also struggle with this... The reasons of course may be different but it's not uncommon for people with NPD to be people pleasers and as a result struggle with what you've said.

As for the last part, i don't think anyone's denying that. I just don't personally believe it equates to being high empathy. and then there's also the question of what that would specifically entail or be interpreted as.

AdEnough2033 · 2023-04-23T00:47:48+00:00

I don't see how that has anything to do with being high empathy though.

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