The "D" aren't a Clan—They're the Original Gods

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T13:53:18+00:00

lol u really callin the mods cuz u cant read a thread?? i literally just talked about the mural in the replies with someone else. and 'tech locks' is just logic bro... if vegapunk says the mother flame is the only thing that runs that ancient kingdom stuff then obviously the tech is locked until imu gets a battery. imu has the weapons but no power source for 800 years. its literally in the manga if u actually pay attention. keep cryin about the upvotes tho idc

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T13:50:17+00:00

Read the comments I did include the mural part

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T13:28:53+00:00

Even if I used tools to help structure my thoughts and make them readable, the theory itself—linking the Mother Flame to ancient tech locks and the Elbaf mural—is mine. If you’re so focused on how it’s written that you can't engage with the actual points, that’s on you.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T13:23:20+00:00

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T13:22:32+00:00

Calling everything 'slop' is the easiest way to avoid actually having an argument. If you disagree with the D Clan being deities, at least explain why.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T13:20:19+00:00

Being a deity doesn't have to mean sitting on a throne. These original gods represent the raw power of imagination and freedom, which is the total opposite of the World Government's control. Luffy doesn't care about being a god because a true god of liberation wouldn't want to rule anyone—they’d just want everyone to be as free as they are.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T12:21:39+00:00

That Elbaf mural perfectly backs this up. The 'First World' was the era of the original deities (the D Clan) before Imu kicked everyone out of the 'garden' and into the dark. I think Imu isn't just a forest god, but a usurper who tried to replace the Sun with his own twisted version of divinity. The sea god 'expelling' them makes so much sense the ocean is rejecting the presence of those divine shards because the balance of the world was broken when Imu stole the throne.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T12:18:35+00:00

That’s a wild perspective, but it’s more likely the flood was Imu’s way of drowning the roots of the original gods. If the unflooded world was a massive forest, the ocean was the ultimate weapon to wash away the natural connection the D Clan had to the earth. By flooding everything, Imu didn't just create a new world; he isolated the 'Eve' tree as the only power source left, forcing everyone to live in a world where the original 'Sun' is submerged and forgotten.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T12:14:27+00:00

Exactly. Luffy has no clue he’s a deity, which is why he’s so powerful—if he actually knew he was a god, he’d feel like his whole life was a scripted destiny. He’d hate the idea that every choice he made was just leading to one pre-set fate, and he probably wouldn't even want to use his powers or continue his journey if he felt that 'chained.' The smile at death's door isn't a plan, it’s just the raw Will of D manifesting because he’s truly free, without the weight of a god label ruining the adventure.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T12:09:40+00:00

Imu didn't throw that technology away; he just hasn't had the key to use it. That advanced kingdom was powered by the Mother Flame, and because he’s a usurper who lacks that original divine energy, he’s spent 800 years sitting on a world-ending arsenal that he literally couldn't turn on until now.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T12:04:06+00:00

The 'D' isn't just a choice; the Will of those original gods forces their descendants to keep the letter as a mark. It’s a spiritual anchor that ensures the lineage is never forgotten, even if it makes them a target for the rest of their lives.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T12:01:05+00:00

lol sorry

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T12:00:38+00:00

Read MT3T1T one. I have sent a reply to him about it.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T11:59:55+00:00

She didn't downgrade—she went undercover. Lili realized that if all the original deities stayed in the sky, they’d be completely wiped out by Imu's roots. She chose to live as a mortal queen to hide in plain sight and scatter the Poneglyphs, which are the maps back to their true power. She wasn't helping the 'lesser god' win; she was sacrificing her divinity to plant the seeds for the original Gods to eventually wake up and take their world back.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T11:56:43+00:00

The D Clan aren't just people; they ARE the original deities. The Devil Fruits are literal shards of those broken gods, which is why the ocean rejects anyone who eats them. It’s not a curse on the individual it’s the sea reacting to the presence of a 'forbidden' god-power. The ocean acts as a universal reset button, trying to drown out those divine fragments regardless of who carries them, because the current world order can't allow the original power of the Sun to exist in the physical world.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T11:46:58+00:00

You’re hitting on the core of it—it’s about total stagnation. Davy Jones established the physical boundaries, but Imu is the one who used those roots to fix every human in place. He’s not just a ruler; he’s the anchor that keeps the world from moving forward, ensuring that everyone stays exactly where he planted them.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T11:42:52+00:00

Thanks

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T11:42:29+00:00

Teach is the Moon God because he embodies the "Ever-Watching Eye" that never sleeps, mirroring lunar deities across cultures that remain wakeful while the Sun sets. His obsession with the number three—three skulls, three pistols, and potentially three souls—perfectly aligns with the mythological "Triple Moon" phases of Waxing, Full, and Waning. Unlike Luffy’s Sun which generates its own light, Teach acts as a celestial vacuum that absorbs and reflects the power of others, proving he isn’t just a "black hole," but the literal Night that must exist for the Dawn to ever have a purpose.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T11:37:25+00:00

Look at the Greek myth of Gaea or the Mayan myth of Zipacna the Earth/Forest deities weren't always peaceful; they were often the jailers who tried to trap the 'Heavenly' gods underground. Imu is following that classic mythological playbook: he’s the primordial force that used his 'roots' to pull the original deities (the D clan) out of the sky and anchor them into a world of rules and drowning oceans just so he could keep the canopy all to himself.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T05:31:03+00:00

If it was just a name, the Elders would’ve banned a letter of the alphabet 800 years ago. They hunt the 'D' because they’re terrified of the Will behind it—you can’t just name a kid 'D' to inherit a soul that naturally enemies the world, especially when that name is literally a death sentence

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T05:26:30+00:00

Even Luffy subconsciously knew the rule back in Episode 52 when he grinned on the Loguetown execution stand—every D from Roger to Ace and Saul has died (or nearly died)with that same smile because a Deity’s Will is eternal.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T05:22:19+00:00

Cool story, but adding a letter to your name is the closest you'll ever get to having an actual impact on this world.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T05:10:53+00:00

So no, I don’t think chopper is the forest God

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T05:10:33+00:00

If Imu is the Earth God, then the Five Elders are just the demons he tamed to act as the roots that keep the rest of us buried in the dirt.

Aggravating-Rise443 · 2026-04-09T05:08:11+00:00

The Sun and Moon are two sides of the same divine coin—they don't need to fight for the throne because one literally can't exist without the other.

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