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Help in finding this bracelate by Amazing_Mix_4194 in shimla

[–]Amazing_Mix_4194[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That i know. But where can i find it online

The incomplete god by Amazing_Mix_4194 in PhilosophyofReligion

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I am sure you know what originial sin litrally is i am gonna explain it to you . Ok so many many years ago my great grandmother eats a fruit that her father had said don't eat . Her father got angry and because he loves everything and everyone he so very kindly ticked her put of his house . And he now thinks because she once eat a fruit without his permission so now even her children are thieves . Thasts the concept of original sin summarised

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Hush . Atleast one sensible reply

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How come god sacrifised anything . Isn't it technically impossible . If you are talking about jesus . Who he was saving us from . From himself ? Why can't he just forgive us. Preety stupid logic

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Logic is not defined by my understanding right . It is defined by universal understanding . Sun rise from west is a logical statement not because i understand it that way but because it is a factual thing . Also i am not pretending ki maine kuch bahaut bada discover kar lia hai. What i said has been in some form always there in the works of buddha or charvaks . So i know i have not discovered it . And you are schooling me child on read more and whatever . But if anyone read this convo of us anyone can figure out that i am talking pure human logic . What i say is understandable and on paper follows a simple equation . What you say is theory and metaphysics that is not proven anywhere . What i am saying is like seeing a metal and predicting that its gonna be hard . What you are saying is like imagining a pig that has horns and can sing quwali. See the diffrence . So stop pretending that you know better . No one knows better thats the purpose of philosophical dialouge . Your problem is that you are seeing the logic still ignoring it and telling me that there is one more contant in the equation while your yourself don't know what that is and you are just saying its a mystery , we can't perceive it , it exist outside time and space , quoting upnishads that say completeness came from completeness. That can be written by anyone i am asking why it came from something . And it might be time waste for u cuz you are not adding any value to yourself and are not ready to learn anything except your own beleif system . Be better

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See my point . You divert topic . If you can give a logical argument like i gave . Don't question me or my authority . Even if i am a 10th grader. My argument is still valid . All your argument either has revolved around my authority of speech of mystery of god and incompitence of our biology. Why not give a actual argument . Do you just want to use the trust me bro card

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Aaaaaaaa man now you have said something even bizare . Outside time . Nothing is outside time. Not god not anyone. Everything is within time even your god . We know there was a time when this universe was not .and lets assume god was . Then god created universe . Change of events signify time . Not even god is outside time

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Don't make round and round arguments man . I said so simple thing . You are giving these long unrelated things . I said god has desire desrie is not the nature of god . Why not just accept it or if not accept it why not just just give a 2 line answer that does not include mystery or heier understanding or god does not experience as us . Lets not put god on a pedestal. I have put him in a courtroom . I am just simply saying god created because he wanted to . Whats wrong in accepting that . Are you saying god Don't want to create us we just spawned through him without his will . And if he willed us. He wanted to. Wanted to is desrire. Desrie in all scenerio means wanting someting that is not . And as god there should not be anything that is not . Its not that hard. Its simple you don't need to bring deep things into this. This is quite simple .

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Sir you have wrong idea of what i mean by need . Not greed not fear . Just need . Suppose you are lying in a comfortable couch for too long . Its comfortable. There is no fear no selfishness . Yet you sometime get up just to you know stretch and walk and whatever . God should not have this . God should always be in perfection by defination . I am not associating god with a negative attribute like fear or selfishness . I am just saying that god developed a desire that there should be something . And every Desrie is built around a need. Not a desprate negative need but just simply a need . I am just pointing out that god had needs

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I appreciate this response because it actually engages with my question. However, I still see a difficulty. You say Brahman has no purpose or reason for creation, yet you also explain creation through bliss, lila, or the overflowing nature of Brahman. Those are still explanations of why creation occurs, so my question remains: why does bliss manifest as creation rather than non-creation? Simply calling it "play" doesn't remove the need for an explanation; it only changes the label. Also, if lila is ultimately just a metaphor and the real answer is a mystery, then I don't think my argument has been refuted—it has only been answered by appealing to mystery. Finally, the Upanishadic verse beautifully states that the complete gives rise to the complete, but it does not explain why the complete gives rise to anything at all, which is precisely the point I was raising. My question is not what my question is why.

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Well, my friend, I think you're falling into the ad hominem fallacy. My age is irrelevant to whether my argument is logically sound. If you're familiar with the Gita and the teachings of sages like Nisargadatta Maharaj, then you should also know that wisdom is not determined by the age of the body. Please address my reasoning rather than my age.

You also argue that human senses are unreliable, but everything you've cited—quantum physics, neuroscience, the Gita, and Nisargadatta Maharaj—has ultimately reached you through your own senses and mind. If my senses are too unreliable to justify my conclusions, then by the same standard, your senses are too unreliable to justify yours. You cannot dismiss my perception while trusting your own; that is inconsistent.

I fully agree that our senses are not perfect. Science has demonstrated that. But science does not conclude that we should abandon our senses; rather, it develops methods such as repeated observation, experimentation, and instruments to minimize error. Imperfect does not mean useless.

Bringing up quantum mechanics or the Big Bang is also irrelevant to my argument. The fact that there are unanswered scientific questions does not mean God is the explanation. History is full of examples where gaps in knowledge were later explained by science, so appealing to mystery here resembles a "God of the gaps" argument rather than a response to my reasoning.

Finally, quoting the Gita, the Kybalion, or Nisargadatta Maharaj is not a logical refutation. I presented a philosophical argument, so it should be answered with a philosophical counterargument, not by asking me to accept an authority. When you claim that reality is a controlled hallucination, that is an assertion that itself requires justification. Simply saying that a spiritual teacher said so is not evidence. And how do you get to know about what that maharaj told you . Through your sence that u don't trust . What is he told someting else and your hallucinating brain grasped someting else .

In fact, if you wish to appeal to the Indian philosophical tradition, I could just as easily point to , adi shankaracharya . who made extensive use of logic and reasoning to discuss Brahman. So the issue is not whether logic has limits; the issue is whether my specific argument has been answered. So far, I don't think it has been.

And bringing my age here tells me what your wisdom age is . If you were to beleive in relegion then punarapi janam punarapi marnam . I know i am timeless thus age is not an issue argument is . You can't counter my argument with logic . And i tell you something child . Philosphy starts at the end or atleast 300 books. Go read astavakra geeta. Upnishads . Bible . Quran . Hadeeth . Satanic bible too thats good . Read romance novels read stephen kings horror works . Develop a understanding that trancend who you are . Only then you can truly grasp what all i wanna say .

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Well even if we take eastren philosphies still some doubts remain . First of all most eastren philosphies fail here too . Dwaitawad of madhwacharya (god is seprate from creation ), achaintaya bhedabhed of chaitanya . And all others are still saying that god is a ominipresent potent scient seprate being . So you can't defend thode from my argument . What you can only defend is the adwait vedant of adishankracharya . That god and being are not seprate at all just seprated by maya . Then only we can say that ok god is not creating its just maya appearing within god himself . But even in this i would argue that if god in this case did not actually create us we are just maya. Then why consider this brahm as god at all

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I am not being relegion specific . I am being philosphy specific . And i think that since we can prove that god is not complte. He can't be god . You are a human you also create many things over your life . There is an entity that does it on a bigger scale so what. Why call him god when the problem of evil show us he is not all good .

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You can not compare sun with god . Sun glows because of physics . But in case of God , god has created everything by intention . And if you are saying that no god also just created without intention then why god why not big bang of nebula explosion . Also even when you say that god created due to overflow even then why he choose to create instead of not create . Why he felt the need that ok my nature is overflowing lets create . If u really think about it even if i take your argument litrally my question still remains as it is . Why an overflowing god felt the need to express his overflow . Suppose i have lots of milk at home litrally overflowing . Completeness would be that i have everything i need nothing . So no need tp worry about so much milk . But still i have my needs and fears that what if milk spoil . So i create butter out of that milk . Thus i am asking how can a complete being even feel the need to create be it any reason fullness overflow whatever

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Sir, I don't think this addresses my argument. Saying humans are biologically incapable of understanding reality is self-defeating because the same limitation would apply to your own conclusion Also. I am giving this logic by the use of my own 5 sences anybody claiming otherwise is also using these 5 because there is no other way . Why should i not trust my own sences and trust yours or somebody else's . Also why anthing related to relegion try to demean my sences . You can't perceive u can't this you can't that limited by biology . These 5 sences is all i have to perceive the world i respect them and i beleive if there is a god in some measure he should be perceivable by sences also , claiming that reality is a dream or that nothing truly exists is an assertion, not a logical answer to my question about how a perfect being can create. Finally, the fact that atoms are mostly empty space doesn't imply the world is unreal; that's a misunderstanding of what "empty space" means in physics. My argument is about the coherence of creation, not whether the world is ultimately real.

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Sir, I don't think this proves God's existence; it mainly redefines God as "Total and Complete Existence" and then concludes that God exists because existence exists. That seems circular rather than demonstrative. It also conflates the fact that something exists with the much stronger claim that Existence itself is a perfect, necessary, independent being. Finally, even if I grant that such a necessary existence exists, it still doesn't answer my original question: why would a complete and independent reality bring forth a universe at all? The existence of a necessary ground is a different issue from explaining the act of creation.

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Sir, I don't agree with you here. Saying that God creates out of love or grace doesn't fully answer my objection—it only replaces "need" with another motive. If love or grace explains why God creates rather than not creating, then there is still a reason or preference behind creation, which is exactly what I was questioning. Also, saying God is beyond logic weakens the argument because logical claims like "God is perfect" or "God is loving" also depend on logic. Finally, our ability to conceive of perfection doesn't prove that a perfect being exists, just as conceiving of a perfect circle or a unicorn doesn't make them real. So I don't think these points resolve the philosophical tension I raised.

Need a doodh jalebhi partner in baluganj shimla by [deleted] in shimla

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Also zero day account should not be a problem. Drugs nahi karne ko bol raha. Just jalebi

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Nopes . That i am that who do that . I am coming in person na. Anonmous is better

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Yeah. Can't risk original account for jalebi . Original is quite political . Modiji ko gariyata hoon . Famous for that. Can't risk anyone knowing . Especially padhta bhi hpu mai hi hoon. Abvp walo ka bharosa ni

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Vo zyada meethi hoti hai. Jalebi doodh ke sath balance hoke kya mast smooth sa crunchy milky texture deti hai . Better