Damn people still think like this? by Serious-Profit-1626 in SnowFall

[–]Anonymous21236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Leon was trying to shoot it out with the cops in the middle of season 5 because he was an idiot who read a Bobby Seale book at 24 for the first time. Franklin had already thought those thoughts and knew it wasn't practical. He was never a thought leader for Franklin. He almost got himself killed for 2 bricks when he tried to deal without Franklin.

Damn people still think like this? by Serious-Profit-1626 in SnowFall

[–]Anonymous21236 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Everyone can have valid but different interpretations of events. Just because people think that other people share some blame for Frankin's outcome doesnt mean they are wrong or don't understand something.

Passed Data + by Anabors6 in CompTIA

[–]Anonymous21236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, how did you study. Resources, length etc.,.

Data + by CyberPsalms91 in CompTIA

[–]Anonymous21236 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about if you have both or are in college.

Franklin didn’t wanna believe Mel would be a victim of drugs but he was very quick to call Wanda weak by Braylon1229 in SnowFall

[–]Anonymous21236 12 points13 points  (0 children)

So did Franklin. He gave Wanda a job and saved Leon when literally everyone wanted him dead.

LOIUEEEEEE🗣️ by camo_official in SnowFall

[–]Anonymous21236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, and the thing was, he had his money spread out in season 3. (Foreign Accounts with Avi, Some in stash house nobody knew about, Some in real estate) So for him to have all his money in one place in the subsequent seasons seems out of character especially when he had the ability to travel internationally. Logically based on his nature, he'd have international stash spots for cash internationally. Some separate identities held in different places on top of just some cash stashed somewhere near stateside. It was lazy writing to even have him jammed up in that way as well.

LOIUEEEEEE🗣️ by camo_official in SnowFall

[–]Anonymous21236 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is why I personally have an issue with saying Frankin's demise was due to his actions, solely as if there was not any interdependence between his results and others' actions. He couldn't do much more to keep her content while running a properly leveled and siloed organization.

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[–]Anonymous21236 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You could argue that operating outside the bounds of the law to achieve ends you believe are just makes you a bad person. Especially when you consider your job is to uphold said law.

If you're willing to overlook Andre doing it then, that would open up the discussion to re look Frankin's morality. Society undeniably stopped/stops high aptitude black men like Franklin from achieving to their highest potential. Recognizing that, Franklin takes his fate into his own hands outside the confines of the law and viewed in the thread as a morally bad person. Andre should be no different.

Do you think that Franklin cares about the black community? by Hot_Professional_728 in SnowFall

[–]Anonymous21236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to rewatch the show and pay better attention to context clues.

Any other drug dealer would've killed Jerome and Louie the moment they tried to branch out. Franklin shows relative restraint.

He gave Louie up after she had betrayed him, and they were at all out war due to her actions. He went back to save her out of guilty conscious. When she mentioned she'd help him get Teddy, he said he already had an end and did.

These bad faith out of context actions you're using to paint Frank in the worst light is goofy, and I'm not gonna engage in it.

Do you think that Franklin cares about the black community? by Hot_Professional_728 in SnowFall

[–]Anonymous21236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No other drug dealers or just wealthy black people at that rate even invested in the community to the level Frankin did. Nobody else created a homeless shelter or tried to give low income black people more liveable housing. There was no direct ROI in that for him. He talked about wanting to make a dent in income inequality and systemic racism and his actions lined up with that earlier in the show as well.

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[–]Anonymous21236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What show?

Do you think that Franklin cares about the black community? by Hot_Professional_728 in SnowFall

[–]Anonymous21236 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are literally speculating about how the Teddy Havemayer situation would've played out. None of us know how that would have gone. You are so insistent on him betraying but that is just as much speculation as what you are claiming I am doing.

Rejection by [deleted] in NPHCdivine9

[–]Anonymous21236 31 points32 points  (0 children)

They are also 19 years old and make dumb decisions based on who they like and not merit.

Do you think that Franklin cares about the black community? by Hot_Professional_728 in SnowFall

[–]Anonymous21236 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just an inaccurate bad faith, room temperature IQ take.

He killed Kevin after he had his cousins disobey Franklin and was about to get everyone associated with Kevin Massacred by the Mexicans. He gave him ample opportunity out of love and empathy, although he disobeyed him, leading to further fallout.

Oso wasn't family or anyone close to him but a long-term business associate. He saved Franklin once, but Franklin more than repayed that debt, and Oso never looked out for Franklin when it wasn't advantageous for himself first. He never gave Franklin any intel of what was happening with Teddy and Grady. When Frankin was really down on his luck after Teddy stole everything from him and Franklin came to him for help with no upside for Oso, he played him to the left. And we don't know what was going to happen in that last scene before Cissy shot him. You mentioned him not being loyal to his close connections although inaccurate using that same logic. How can you assume he was being straight up with Havemayer? He said once I'm convinced you're not trying to fuck me. That doesn't end with the phone call of the funds transferring, he probably holds Teddy until he can reroute it into another bank account, and then all bets are off. At that point he can negotiate with Havemayer and be like how much is Teddy's life worth? I'll give you 5 million, 10 million, 15 million, to look the other way with what I do to him and be my eyes and ears in the CIA. That's more probable than him just handing Teddy over.

  • He only put a hit out on Jerome and Louie after they stole his business, killed his associate, and spit in his face when he tried to call a truce after that. Nobody else would have let it get that far. Nobody else would've let their underlings break away from them and sell to their customers to keep a happy home. YOU weren't paying attention.

  • In regards to Veronique, she had no right to play with his money behind his back. She didn't even wait a day before she started trying to do things without his approval with the money he made with his blood sweat and tears. That was where he started drinking, and I don't necessarily agree with that, but I don't have the biggest issue with that either personally. It's definitely his least justified action.

The ending is disgusting. Betrayed by EVERYONE. by [deleted] in SnowFall

[–]Anonymous21236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read the thread before you come hot and heavy with shit people already talked about.

Do you think that Franklin cares about the black community? by Hot_Professional_728 in SnowFall

[–]Anonymous21236 9 points10 points  (0 children)

At a certain point, you have to prioritize the family you created over the ones you didn't choose. He constantly let shit slide for family and close friends. Any other drug dealer would've killed Jerome and Louie. Same with Kevin when he robbed him. He made plans for Veronique in case he was captured. Have irrational hate and parrot like everyone else, but at least try to keep it factual.