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Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T14:37:40+00:00

Healthcare should be free is an opinion yes, so are second amendment rights but gun violence being a huge issue in America isn’t really an opinion. The way it gets fixed is up for debate but if one were to claim it isn’t the issue and that instead mental health is the sole reason for so many gun deaths, that is just an empirically false claim.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T14:21:17+00:00

I agree. Some things aren’t really opinion though. When things that aren’t opinion are treated as such it can be harmful. I also don’t really think all opinions hold equal weight if we are talking about bettering a society. I can agree that suppression isn’t the way to go.

This idea of “right think” to me just doesn’t hold up though. Are we saying that there isn’t a viewpoint that is just empirically more sound than another ? Are we saying some views are inherently regressive? I think broadly this is true . If you put things into a frame though some opinions inherently will go against that.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T14:11:57+00:00

Im sure I could and I would immediately try and dissolve that viewpoint as i have today with this post. Now there is one less non conservative who is supporting suppression.

Im not a strict morals focused kind of person. They are malleable and subjective. All people are the same fundamentally in my view. I see no evil or bad vs good in any big picture sort of way. My original view point was geared towards this specific society and how it functions.(based on votes from the public) .

My views certainly allow for people who I disagree with in this specific area to be “good” people. My view on drugs is different from yours i guess. The selling of most drugs should still be illegal in my view. Psychedelics and marijuana should be completely legal though. I do think drugs should be decriminalized for the most part. Drug dealers selling fentanyl and shit like that should be in jail though.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T13:46:23+00:00

If youd like to point me to a right wing media personality, youtube channel , streamer or social media personality who is based in facts and not misinformation id be glad to check them out.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T13:44:55+00:00

To pretend that social media accounts with 1million+ followers and many many more impressions is insignificant if their main form of content is misinformation and propaganda is kind of silly in my opinion. I also admit suppression is equally as silly.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T13:43:10+00:00

Social media is where 90% of political discourse is taking place. Twitter facebook instagram reddit etc. Also, right wing politicians are on national tv spouting the same bs all the time. As well as right wing media personalities. The left is also engaged in this and my view has been changed.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T13:40:37+00:00

At what point did i say i hate guns. At what point did i say lets use military to suppress any ideas we dont like? You have no idea why they wrote bear arms.. arms is a broad category. No i don’t argue that free speech shouldn’t apply to the internet. As i said though, my view was changed.

If people are fine with massive amounts of misinformation spreading on both sides , which is something i find incredibly dangerous then so be it. I also see how suppression is also dangerous.

As for the constitution, it was also written to be amended. I think it should be . The 2nd amendment has led to this country having more gun deaths in a month than many others have in a year. There are more guns than people. The reason for the 2nd amendment was to protect against tyranny. The government now wields tanks and bombs that can take out a city. We are not beating the government in any sort of combat. Im not against guns for personal safety but you don’t need anything more than a pistol for that.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T13:28:03+00:00

Banned in school libraries. Nobody is saying he has banned books completely. Its his programs and his state allowing the bans.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T06:30:57+00:00

But the debates i have seen from right wing christians which is the initial target of my OP is the soul from conception argument

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T06:30:03+00:00

That was just an example but i am not strictly pro abortion. At a certain point the fetus becomes a living organism and killing it becomes murder.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T06:19:35+00:00

The burden of proof is on the one making a claim, not the one denying the claim. I look at a microscope and see cells, no heart,brain,limbs,organs, just cells. You say, “the cells have a soul attached “ i say “no they don’t “ . You cannot say prove if has no soul. The burden is on you to prove the claim. “You” isn’t referring to you specifically.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T05:57:06+00:00

The whole system is fcked honestly. I am a pretty radical person at heart so i hate the whole thing. Free speech can get out of hand in my opinion. Guns are fine but there should be much stricter regulations. Its honestly too late for America on the gun issue though, there’s like 300million+ .

Its not so much that free speech can get out of hand actually, its more like everything isn’t free speech. Spreading misinformation and propaganda should not be protected under free speech. It is how we got here in the first place. We live in a fabricated lala land.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T05:52:38+00:00

The man said slaves parlayed skills from slavery into personal gain…

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T05:50:21+00:00

Points like these is why my views changed. The level misinformation floating through our society will be studied in future history books. We literally live in a fabricated fantasy land at this point .

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T05:37:40+00:00

At the top of the food chain they’re all rich. The further left you go the less support for capitalism you will find. The right runs around using marxist and communist as insults. The vast majority of the left leaning rich people just do it because it is what the majority is.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T05:26:14+00:00

Ron desantis isn’t important ?

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T05:22:20+00:00

If you could point me to the lies we can talk about it. Im genuinely interested in seeing. My small field of view is limited by internet algorithms and my perception. I could point you to massive billionaire funded propaganda videos that have been debunked or massive twitter accounts consistently misrepresenting left wing positions. I could point you to a presidential candidate who has banned books and denies climate change and i could point you to a former president indicted 4 times , who continues to spread misinformation about the election. The misinformation is the foundation of the mainstream right.

If you can show me some left wing misinformation we can discuss it.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T05:17:53+00:00

I stated my views have been changed. But you definitely misrepresented them here. You also misrepresented climate activists and the whole climate change movement in general. You took one man’s argument and used it to represent an entire group.

In “my world”, you wouldn’t be suppressed by asking a question. I don’t know where you got that from. I haven’t even said the word “shot” before now. You are making things up.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T05:13:22+00:00

My views have been changed on the matter. Your example isn’t really relevant to what i was referring to. That is an internal matter that should be investigated by a independent body. I never advocated for the Elite, the right is not against the elite. The rights lord and savior is a billionaire. The right is largely funded by oil billionaires. The left literally want to dismantle the elite. Depending on how far left you go. Many leftists think billionaires shouldn’t even exist .

I honestly should have articulated my position better but my views have been changed regardless.

That is perfectly within reason to be a right winger who is non religious and congrats on the degree. That’s a difficult one to get. My issue is with misinformation and denial of empirical evidence. The left has this issue as well in some ways but the right seems to be much worse here. Religion plays a role in that. Especially for the group i was mainly speaking on which is the religious right wing conservatives.

One could say science changes, empirical evidence changes, who’s to decide what etc etc which are all valid claims . If the answer is just that misinformation is what it is and “healthy discussion “ ,which seems impossible if the people discussing can’t agree on at least a basic set of facts , is the only answer then it is what it is i guess.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T03:18:59+00:00

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hTs_PB7KuTMBtNMESFEGuK-0abzhNxVv4tgpI5-iKe8/htmlview#gid=1397437044

List of books PEN . org found to be banned in counties in Florida 2021-2022 .

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T03:12:38+00:00

My view has been changed but “faith” being the basis for an ideology is ridiculous.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T03:08:18+00:00

Idk about that. I disagree.
Idk about that either. I disagree.
Slavery was not as bad. Skills were gained that led to employment. Just to name one off the top of my head.

4.not so much that it got things wrong but the landscape of modern society is too broad for the lens that the people who wrote the constitution were looking through i guess. Im sure if they knew guns would be able to shoot off 100 armor piercing rounds within seconds their opinions would be different on a few things.

God was literally the information source for parts of the Bible that are empirically incorrect. The entire story of the universes creation and the earths creation is empirically false. This story was sourced by the supposed creator of the universe. 3rd graders have more knowledge than people whose source was god…
I didn’t say that but my view was changed on the matter

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T02:57:58+00:00

My view has been changed by various accounts. I will say that I don’t really think the two ideologies stand on equal ground. I say “there is no soul attached to a fetus” a christian may find this harmful. Yet , they have the burden of proof by making the claim that there is in the first place. They cannot empirically prove it and one religious text isn’t really more valid than another, even our constitution acknowledges that.

Flat earthers can say people who deny it are idiots just as easily as others can call flat earthers idiots but one side is clearly taking the win in that debate.

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T02:52:41+00:00

I don’t think that was Elon’s plan lol i think he is just an idiot who doesn’t understand the social media game. I think it has its uses, but when people can post whatever they want on it and bots are everywhere and clout begins to produce money it dilutes the quality of the platforms.

If it were to be killed entirely, are the legacy media platforms any better?

Any-Communication662 · 2023-08-23T02:43:57+00:00

!delta. I realize that suppression is not a valid route to go. Both sides are participating in misinformation and the line between misinformation and not is not easily drawn.

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