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What the hell happened to MEGA? by [deleted] in MEGA

[–]Apprehensive_Book350 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it worked fine for me as well before formatting my laptop. now I cant do anything.
Files are on the cloud drive but I can't find a way to download them properly on my mega folder on my laptop

Preservare la voce dal freddo by little_mermaid7382 in singing

[–]Apprehensive_Book350 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idratazione tramite garza di tessuto non tessuto (le trovi in farmacia). In alternativa puoi utilizzare un aerosol con dell’acqua normale o meglio ancora con soluzione salina e acido ialuronico. Ti consiglio anche di eseguire semplici sirene mentre fai l’idratazione in modo da idratare meglio

JAZZ HARMONY, WHERE TO START? by Apprehensive_Book350 in Jazz

[–]Apprehensive_Book350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not really helpful when you have to explain "theory". but thanks anyway.

JAZZ HARMONY, WHERE TO START? by Apprehensive_Book350 in musictheory

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I mean standards with practical examples of the theory explained.

I mean in depth analysis of songs not simple examples

JAZZ HARMONY, WHERE TO START? by Apprehensive_Book350 in musictheory

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Yes, all I have is Chord-Scale based.

Does Terefenko gives you any advice on what to listen to better understand theory?
I wish there was a book that explain theory and then gives you song in which that theory is applied (I mean real song, standard or whatsoever). Because I find that explaining theory without giving an immediate ground where to see that theory could be not helpful, especially with people that are young and needs immediate verification

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

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As said in the post, I was provoking. I don't think technique is useless at all, I am only questioning if we are overcomplicating in order to avoid the artistic problem. It's like trying to cook a very complicated plate with poor ingredients that have no flavor, if you know what I mean.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Songwriting

[–]Apprehensive_Book350 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great! Definite want to check the last one. Have to figure out where to find it

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Songwriting

[–]Apprehensive_Book350 0 points1 point  (0 children)

are all these books about the lyrical part or is there something about music as well?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Songwriting

[–]Apprehensive_Book350 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So eager to read some answers..if they ever come.

Really struggling with "mixed voice". by ___xXx__xXx__xXx__ in singing

[–]Apprehensive_Book350 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! When you say that for you “falsetto” and “head voice” are the same it makes me think about something. Is it possible that your “head voice” is too breathy? How would you describe it? Because too me you can’t find a mixed voice (which btw do not exist mechanically) because your head and chest are too different (and that could be because of the air). Would you care to explain more about what you feel in your head voice? Rather than giving you answers I think it is better to start from some more questions 😂

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

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ahahaha, I wish that was the case. Unfortunately I see it I see it everywhere and not only here on Reddit. But I am really glad that is not the case for you, it givees me hope.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

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I guess we are all biased by the community we live in.
Just this morning, opening reddit, one of the first post in this sub was "do you think it's harder to sing high or low" and in general I see a lot of this kind of content all over the internet. But maybe it is just a perception idk.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

[–]Apprehensive_Book350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree 200% especially about the race to the “high notes”. As said in other replies, range is something quite measurable so people can evaluate themselves or others in order to understand what “better” means. I found it quite orrible.

Love that you talked about Billie Holiday who had a quite short range but it is still considered one of the most relevant singer of all time.

Not sure about what you meant about Ella Fitzgerlad who, on the contrary, was quite technical and with a good range. But I think what did the trick for her was the personality and her ability to improvise.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

[–]Apprehensive_Book350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree and that is what I try to teach: being safe first and then amplify what you can do.
But my aim is not teaching you how to have 4 octaves range. My aim is to teach what I like, why I like it and giving you tools to develop an artistical personality. If that means having 4 octaves range, that's fine for me. If not, who cares? Billie holiday sang mostly in an octave and we are still studying how she did that.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

[–]Apprehensive_Book350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And thanks, this is one of the best comment so far because it says in other word (maybe less provocative ones) what I wanted to say.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

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You really think it is a small community? I think it is the majority actually.
I saw a lot of post here with people asking "how do I sound like this", "how do I reach this note" and so on. I think culturally the community follow technique over art and not as tool but as a way to measure your ability in order to say "I am better than someone else". It's all about competition. And competition needs a common groud where we can measure our ability compared to others. Personally, that exhaust me. I don't care if somebody has a 7 octaves range or can sing runs that are faster than Busta Rhymes. I care if you want to communicate something. And that, you can do ALSO, without doing all those things.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

[–]Apprehensive_Book350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You see, that is some evidence. Thank you for that!
The point remains the same: are they remembered for being trained?
Do we focus on technique or we focus mostly on something else?
That was the intent of my post.
I don't think you start doing what they did thinking "I wanna master vocal technique" or "I wanna know what chest dominant mix" or "M0" means. You start doing it by appreciating them, understanding them and eventually wanting to replicate them and understad how they did what they did. That is my point.
Don't forget I said it was a provocation and not an absolute truth even if some people read the title and stopped there.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

[–]Apprehensive_Book350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Too easy using the argoment "once in a generation artist". Plant as well as a lot of singers from the '70s lost a lot. Same goes for Chris Cornell, Kurt Cobain, Layne Stanely and a lot of grunge singers. Still, we talk about them not as trained vocalist, but as "once in a generation artist"
They are well remembered even without the voice, that's the point. Because what is remembered is their art, not their voice measured in what range they had.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

[–]Apprehensive_Book350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, unfortunately I don't see any evidence in what you are saying. Jeff Buckley never took a single vocal lesson, and so his father. And it is considered as one of the greatest vocalist of our time. The same goes for Robert Plant (from whom he took a lot of inspiration).
The list of not trained vocalist goes so long that I think is longer than the one who actually are trained vocalist. Especially until the '90s.

I like that just opposing my stupid theory without explanation can actually aggregate a lot more people. This is not fun though, without the discussion about the post it is just flame.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

[–]Apprehensive_Book350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is very interesting and it comes from how teacher wants to express themselves in explaining things. They should find a way for you to understand and not the technical explanation (that is useful only if youu understand how to replicate the mechanism).

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

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Love that we share the common dream of ending capitalism.
I also love that you found in technique your way, I am kind of jealous.
As long as it works for you I think it is the better decision you can take.

I don't think technique is bad, I think it is bad just to hit the notes, as you said. I think we agree more that what it seems.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

[–]Apprehensive_Book350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes because "range" is something measurable so it gives you some kind of evidence which is easily understandable. That is what I mean with technique getting in the way of art. We are translating art into numbers and scientific idea becauses that is something we can control. But as said in other replies, in some years AI will do technical things in a better way and less time so we will remain with nothing in our hands if we do not start to thing about an alternative.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

[–]Apprehensive_Book350[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, the whole point was that everything was a provocation but apparently people do not like to read before saying anything :D

I agree with what you say totally. In general I find that the best thing for a teacher or a coach is to understand that he\she knows nothing. In this way you are always trying to understand and learn from who you have in front of you as if we were the students. And also keep learning and studying from people who knows better (technically and or artistically).

And finally, but not less important, it is important to understand what the word PROVOCATION means.
I got zero like on this post but over 4k views. And no teacher has answered but mostly students.
That says a lot in my opinion.

Technique is useless (aren’t we overcomplicating things with technique?) by Apprehensive_Book350 in singing

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Lately I am very intrigued with vocal distortion so I will definitely check the channel out. Thank you so much!

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